The statement so far that bolsters my hope most

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Ummm, no. None of that was true of that post.

Dooley inherited a train wreck. It would have been a near miracle had he survived. But it was his choice. He was a beaten, broken coach by Vandy '12. No question.

But if you really want to consider "flawed reasoning"... you need look no further than your insenuation that he purposely came back to frustrate you with a bad lose to Vandy. Talk about egocentric delusion....

Now we truly have seen a miracle. The recruiting services were right about everyone else's 4* recruits... but almost uniformly wrong about UT's.

Since we don't have Feldman's direct quotes... and you seem intent on bending things to suit you... I can't answer that part except to only say that it is difficult to tell very much from a team playing itself.

However, Dooley inherited NO QB's... SEC ready or otherwise.

Dooley inherited ONE RB with any kind of SEC experience.

Dooley inherited LESS talent at WR than Jones but more experience.

The biggest difference on O is/was the OL. The only OL DD inherited was a guy who was beaten out the previous year by the Sullins bros. Otherwise, he started freshmen. Those Fr are now Srs. Four plus Tiny who may go early will be in the NFL draft. That's a HUGE difference.


On D, DD only inherited one SEC worthy DE and he had a beat up body. His best DT was a DE transfer. Fact is... he HAD NO DT's on the roster. Jones has 4 or 5 guys with SEC level talent. He has some DE's with SEC level talent and especially if he moves Maggitt.

Unless once again EVERYONE lied during the recruitment of the guys playing DB at UT... they have speed. Sunseri's confusion definitely had them playing slow. That does not mean they are slow.

LB is thin on the outside. DD recruited for the 3-4... sort of. That is a significant area of concern.

They have holes. That's true. But they are nothing compared to 3 years ago. You can delude yourself if you like but Dooley literally inherited a team without talent and experience and often without both.

No. You don't. They better coach those guys up and make it work. Somehow again... some guys that many high level programs seemed to want don't have talent?



After 3 years, DD's team was more talented and deeper. He was fired explicitly because he could not take a team with good depth and actually some outstanding talent... and win. In fact, he lost games he should not have lost.

Dooley was not fired because he could not recruit or could not manage a program. He did a pretty decent job of both. He was fired because the guy lacks the skill or maybe the talent to be a head coach.

The roster is not what we would hope for but it is MILES ahead of what it was 3 years ago in every respect.

Absolutely delusional. Knew I shouldn't have tried. Good thing you weren't in Guyana with Jim Jones. #KoolAid
 
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Absolutely delusional. Knew I shouldn't have tried. Good thing you weren't in Guyana with Jim Jones. #KoolAid

Ha! SMH. Why don't u go through and break down his flawed reasoning and inaccurate facts?? Cause you'll look like a fool again with ur lack of understanding of the situation when Dooley arrived and what it really takes to rebuild a program like OUR university's???
 
#53
#53
Ha! SMH. Why don't u go through and break down his flawed reasoning and inaccurate facts?? Cause you'll look like a fool again with ur lack of understanding of the situation when Dooley arrived and what it really takes to rebuild a program like OUR university's???


Ooh ooh...I know this one!...Hire Butch Jones and do everything the right way...meaning the complete opposite of Derek Dooley for you slow fellas.
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Ummm, no. None of that was true of that post.

Dooley inherited a train wreck. It would have been a near miracle had he survived. But it was his choice. He was a beaten, broken coach by Vandy '12. No question.

But if you really want to consider "flawed reasoning"... you need look no further than your insenuation that he purposely came back to frustrate you with a bad lose to Vandy. Talk about egocentric delusion....

Now we truly have seen a miracle. The recruiting services were right about everyone else's 4* recruits... but almost uniformly wrong about UT's.

Since we don't have Feldman's direct quotes... and you seem intent on bending things to suit you... I can't answer that part except to only say that it is difficult to tell very much from a team playing itself.

However, Dooley inherited NO QB's... SEC ready or otherwise.

Dooley inherited ONE RB with any kind of SEC experience.

Dooley inherited LESS talent at WR than Jones but more experience.

The biggest difference on O is/was the OL. The only OL DD inherited was a guy who was beaten out the previous year by the Sullins bros. Otherwise, he started freshmen. Those Fr are now Srs. Four plus Tiny who may go early will be in the NFL draft. That's a HUGE difference.


On D, DD only inherited one SEC worthy DE and he had a beat up body. His best DT was a DE transfer. Fact is... he HAD NO DT's on the roster. Jones has 4 or 5 guys with SEC level talent. He has some DE's with SEC level talent and especially if he moves Maggitt.

Unless once again EVERYONE lied during the recruitment of the guys playing DB at UT... they have speed. Sunseri's confusion definitely had them playing slow. That does not mean they are slow.

LB is thin on the outside. DD recruited for the 3-4... sort of. That is a significant area of concern.

They have holes. That's true. But they are nothing compared to 3 years ago. You can delude yourself if you like but Dooley literally inherited a team without talent and experience and often without both.

No. You don't. They better coach those guys up and make it work. Somehow again... some guys that many high level programs seemed to want don't have talent?



After 3 years, DD's team was more talented and deeper. He was fired explicitly because he could not take a team with good depth and actually some outstanding talent... and win. In fact, he lost games he should not have lost.

Dooley was not fired because he could not recruit or could not manage a program. He did a pretty decent job of both. He was fired because the guy lacks the skill or maybe the talent to be a head coach.

The roster is not what we would hope for but it is MILES ahead of what it was 3 years ago in every respect.

Well-reasoned. :good!:
 
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Ha! SMH. Why don't u go through and break down his flawed reasoning and inaccurate facts?? Cause you'll look like a fool again with ur lack of understanding of the situation when Dooley arrived and what it really takes to rebuild a program like OUR university's???

Yawn.
 
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#56
I agree with this.

Jones does not have a "slower pace" gear. That's good.

He does however have a better starting point than 3 years ago. If he is "the guy" then he will beat someone this year that UT isn't supposed to beat. The "buzz" will be that he's a great coach that made the team MUCH better.

Jones really seems to be going 100 mph all the time, but at the same time seems to be not going too fast that the players are confused or not understanding what is being taught to them. Just my observation. Could be completely wrong.
 
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Ha! SMH. Why don't u go through and break down his flawed reasoning and inaccurate facts?? Cause you'll look like a fool again with ur lack of understanding of the situation when Dooley arrived and what it really takes to rebuild a program like OUR university's???

Rebuilding a program huh? You do it, in large part, by recruiting, oh I don't, 4 & 5 star players, especially when they're in your own backyard. Vonn Bell and Jalen Hurd kinda come to mind. Oh, then there's this little nugget from Josh Malone, rivals #72 player in the country from Gallatin, TN...

Originally Posted by :
"Nothing against Coach Dooley, but everyone was just kinda going thru the motions up there... with coach Jones it's more energy and a lot more exciting."
Malone said really good things about the new staff and UT. He said Vic and Hurd are all over him about becoming a Vol.

Quote from Rivals Chief. You'll find it in Malones thread under recruiting. But of course, just because yet another recruit is quoted directly about Dooleys absolute ineptness on the recruiting trail, that doesn't mean he couldn't recruit,which is the lifeblood of a rebuilding program, right chief?
 
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