The stereotypes of politics

#26
#26
utvolpj said:
and yet I'm supposed to accept into law what your god says is moral? The bible is not the basis for law in the US nor is it the moral compass to many (no matter how many want to believe it)
Click to expand...

I don't know how you could argue that......

That is a tough one to tackle....
 
#27
#27
utvolpj said:
and yet I'm supposed to accept into law what your god says is moral? The bible is not the basis for law in the US nor is it the moral compass to many (no matter how many want to believe it)
Click to expand...

oh really? the Bible says not to kill, not to steal, the Bible says not to lie. the Bible says to respect your mom and dad and you elders. so you're saying we shouldn't abide by that either?
 
#28
#28
joevol320 said:
oh really? the Bible says not to kill, not to steal, the Bible says not to lie. the Bible says to respect your mom and dad and you elders. so you're saying we shouldn't abide by that either?
Click to expand...

That is something that should be left up to the parent and not the government.

The very last thing we would ever need is a theocracy.
 
#31
#31
joevol320 said:
oh really? the Bible says not to kill, not to steal, the Bible says not to lie. the Bible says to respect your mom and dad and you elders. so you're saying we shouldn't abide by that either?
Click to expand...

you're right, I'm so glad the bible said killing and stealing was wrong or I might be gunning down people in the street and stealing their wallets.

I must have missed the "respect your elders" law and it appears there are many teens that should be locked up under the "respect your parents" statute.
 
#32
#32
OrangeEmpire said:
That is a tough one also because the Bible shares commonalities with a lot of religions........

Like I said.... that is a really tough battle....
Click to expand...

it shares that because there are basic things most know are wrong and religious texts just ran with that. If I had never read a single word of the bible I would still recognize basic wrong/right.
 
#33
#33
utvolpj said:
you're right, I'm so glad the bible said killing and stealing was wrong or I might be gunning down people in the street and stealing their wallets.

I must have missed the "respect your elders" law and it appears there are many teens that should be locked up under the "respect your parents" statute.
Click to expand...

i'm sure with your childhood, you probably wouldn't understand a lot of morals. i guess my morals would be shot if i was constantly on the receiving end.
 
#34
#34
utvolpj said:
it shares that because there are basic things most know are wrong and religious texts just ran with that. If I had never read a single word of the bible I would still recognize basic wrong/right.
Click to expand...

Which is why is a tough fight to argue that the Bible didn't influence our laws.
 
#35
#35
utvolpj said:
it shares that because there are basic things most know are wrong and religious texts just ran with that. If I had never read a single word of the bible I would still recognize basic wrong/right.
Click to expand...


you really don't have clue do you. good luck with that.
 
#37
#37
Let's please keep personal shots out of this, even hard to understand ones.
 
#38
#38
joevol320 said:
i'm sure with your childhood, you probably wouldn't understand a lot of morals. i guess my morals would be shot if i was constantly on the receiving end.
Click to expand...

and you were doing so well discussing the topic up until this point.
 
#40
#40
vader said:
Let's please keep personal shots out of this, even hard to understand ones.
Click to expand...

Ok, I thought I was going crazy....... I took it as utvolpj wasn't brought up with morals......

Which is idiotic to say the least...........
 
#41
#41
i'm sure he has some morals. but to say that our laws weren't based on the Bible is just pure ignorance.
 
#43
#43
OrangeEmpire said:
Ok, I thought I was going crazy....... I took it as utvolpj wasn't brought up with morals......

Which is idiotic to say the least...........
Click to expand...
It made me wonder if he and pj were childhood friends, given his extensive knowledge of pj's upbringing.
 
#45
#45
joevol320 said:
you really don't have clue do you. good luck with that.
Click to expand...

Some people have different views from yours. They are not attacking your religion just pointing out where they differ on beliefs. You are not making a good case/example for your faith by chastising others for their views. If you would stay civil and debate the points you would make a better case for your views if that was your intent.
 
#47
#47
KB5252 said:
Some people have different views from yours. They are not attacking your religion just pointing out where they differ on beliefs. You are not making a good case/example for your faith by chastising others for their views. If you would stay civil and debate the points you would make a better case for your views if that was your intent.
Click to expand...

Which always goes back to the christianity part of the equation. In the end......... with regards for the case of Christ......... more harm is done that good.

:thumbsup:
 
#48
#48
joevol320 said:
i'm sure he has some morals. but to say that our laws weren't based on the Bible is just pure ignorance.
Click to expand...

Some of our laws had religious influence but it is hard to argue that point either way conclusively since we do not know what was in the framers mind at the time they put quill to paper.
 
#49
#49
OrangeEmpire said:
Which always goes back to the christianity part of the equation. In the end......... with regards for the case of Christ......... more harm is done that good.

:thumbsup:
Click to expand...
of Christ or for Christ? Not picking, just trying to understand.
 
#50
#50
KB5252 said:
Some of our laws had religious influence but it is hard to argue that point either way conclusively since we do not know what was in the framers mind at the time they put quill to paper.
Click to expand...

At the time, the bible was a major player in a lot of public aspects of life.

However I do not believe for one moment that every framer was a born again christian.

That is silly!
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top