The stupidity of these people is matched only by their fervor

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Ok. Here's the problem LG. Nobody knows for sure what he is. It's all opinion.

He is on record during an interview as saying "his Muslim faith" and then being reminded he is a Christian. This did happen. You can laugh all you want but Christians don't slip up and say my Jewish faith. He's either a complete moron or he's hiding his faith. It's one or the other.
 
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The argument is stupid. He could be Zoroastrian or Satanic for all I care. If he's Muslim, that's cool. IDGAF.
 
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VOLatile said:
The argument is stupid. He could be Zoroastrian or Satanic for all I care. If he's Muslim, that's cool. IDGAF.
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This. Last time I checked, we don't have an official religion of the state. Couldn't care less.

Not a fan of Obama but this has nothing to do with it.
 
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milohimself said:
This. Last time I checked, we don't have an official religion of the state. Couldn't care less.

Not a fan of Obama but this has nothing to do with it.
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It does have something. If he is Muslim he could feel the Muslim Brotherhood is an ok group and allow them to take control of Egypt. This would not be good. Anytime someone is something and doesn't want you to know it it is a bad sign. Anytime.

That goes for being a christian and not letting the public now. Very shady.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
It does have something. If he is Muslim he could feel the Muslim Brotherhood is an ok group and allow them to take control of Egypt. This would not be good. Anytime someone is something and doesn't want you to know it it is a bad sign. Anytime.

That goes for being a christian and not letting the public now. Very shady.
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So if the POTUS were atheist and chose not to divulge their religion, what would you say? Would you vote for an atheist or someone who's religion was unknown?
 
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VOLatile said:
So if the POTUS were atheist and chose not to divulge their religion, what would you say? Would you vote for an atheist or someone who's religion was unknown?
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It would depend on the views of the athiest. If the athiest was for abortion no I wouldn't. If the athiest was anti-abortion and for a strong America, I probably would. I pick my preachers based on their religious beliefs. I pick my politicians based on their intent.
 
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The problem I have with the current POTUS is that I believe he has an agenda and wants to keep it under wraps.
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
The problem I have with the current POTUS is that I believe he has an agenda and wants to keep it under wraps.
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What if you're wrong? What if his only agenda is to better America, but his idea of a better America is drastically different than yours?

FWIW, I don't think he has any type of Muslim agenda.
 
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VOLatile said:
What if you're wrong? What if his only agenda is to better America, but his idea of a better America is drastically different than yours?

FWIW, I don't think he has any type of Muslim agenda.
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If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's not really going to change anything. It's not like someone is coming to me asking if we should re elect him or not.
 
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Well, you do have the power to re-elect him. Although, I kinda wish he wouldn't run for a second term. Rather than focusing on his religion, why not focus on his policies?
 
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VOLatile said:
Well, you do have the power to re-elect him. Although, I kinda wish he wouldn't run for a second term. Rather than focusing on his religion, why not focus on his policies?
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Volatile look at how he is handling the Middle East. Then ask me that again?
 
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Ihatethebuckeyes said:
Volatile look at how he is handling the Middle East. Then ask me that again?
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Well his actions certainly do indicate his hidden pro Muslim agenda. He's clearly hiding something sinister. First healthcare then the next thing you know the army is bulldozing churches. Get a grip. We will be the same country two years or five years from now as we were in 2008. I don't understand peoples paranoia about Muslims. Are they knocking down your door? Are they burning bibles (oh wait....)? Are they Protesting military funerals (oh wait...)? Bottom line is that people need to relax on this Muslim paranoia as it pertains to the POTUS. He may differ from you ideologically but who cares? We have the right to practice whatever religion we choose in this country.
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LG, if you knew a little more about his "Christian faith", you'd know that there isn't a necessary conflict on that side with him saying he's a Muslim as well. The UCC as a whole is NOT an orthodox Christian denomination. They are ecumenical in the extreme. As far as I know, that has been his only exposure to "Christianity".
 
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VolinMichigan said:
Well his actions certainly do indicate his hidden pro Muslim agenda. He's clearly hiding something sinister. First healthcare then the next thing you know the army is bulldozing churches. Get a grip. We will be the same country two years or five years from now as we were in 2008. I don't understand peoples paranoia about Muslims. Are they knocking down your door? Are they burning bibles (oh wait....)? Are they Protesting military funerals (oh wait...)? Bottom line is that people need to relax on this Muslim paranoia as it pertains to the POTUS. He may differ from you ideologically but who cares? We have the right to practice whatever religion we choose in this country.
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How is it paranoid to take people serious about what they say their goal is? All serious Muslims will affirm that they have a mandate to spread Islam. A significant number believe the Koran calls on them to do it by violence if necessary. Islam is a theocratic religion. You may not see that as a threat but it is.

At a very minimum, Obama has sympathy for Muslims and agrees that the US and Israel are largely at fault.
 
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sjt18 said:
How is it paranoid to take people serious about what they say their goal is? All serious Muslims will affirm that they have a mandate to spread Islam. A significant number believe the Koran calls on them to do it by violence if necessary. Islam is a theocratic religion. You may not see that as a threat but it is.

At a very minimum, Obama has sympathy for Muslims and agrees that the US and Israel are largely at fault.
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First, all Christians are obliged to spread the Good Word, as well.

Second, how big is this "significant number" of Muslims will affirm that they have a "mandate" to use violence to do so? And what is your source for that number?

Third, are you not mixing a "mandate" to use violence to "spread" the Muslim faith with terrorists who are faithful in their religion and draw strength from that but who are motivated by politics?
 
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VOLatile said:
What if you're wrong? What if his only agenda is to better America, but his idea of a better America is drastically different than yours?

FWIW, I don't think he has any type of Muslim agenda.
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yeah, is agenda had completely made American much better off. they fact is, he believes that America is the cause of many of the worlds problems and he thinks there should be more social justice.
 
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lawgator1 said:
YouTube - Iowa Focus Group on Obama Agrees: He's a Muslim

I hardly know what to say.
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his dad was a muslim, he lived in indonesia for most of his childood. if you don't think he went to the muslim churches and learned the muslim religion in school then you're clueless.

I think we can agree that your most informative and most impressionable years are when you're a child. he grew up in a country where the muslim religion is not only the dominate religion but is very fundamentalist and aggressive.

He might have done that at one point, but looking at his beliefs and the way he governs, it's hard to tell he's a Christian. The church he went to for years wasn't a Christ believing church. he may not be a muslim, but he's definitely not a believer.

this guy was never taught the greatness of America as a child, so he doesn't have the same connect with America that most who were born and reared in America.
 
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lawgator1 said:
First, all Christians are obliged to spread the Good Word, as well.

Second, how big is this "significant number" of Muslims will affirm that they have a "mandate" to use violence to do so? And what is your source for that number?

Third, are you not mixing a "mandate" to use violence to "spread" the Muslim faith with terrorists who are faithful in their religion and draw strength from that but who are motivated by politics?
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what you fail to understand is that the radical muslims, though few in numbers compared with moderates, will not be challenged by the moderate majority. the moderates will eventually be 'encouraged' to be more extremist or be killed.
 
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I think people tend to overlook the obvious religous bias of Obama that seems to be most public - none at all.

If he leans either way - Christian or Muslim - it is in name only and none in practice. His public demeanor seems to simply not care about religion except when his job requires him to.
 
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VOLatile said:
The argument is stupid. He could be Zoroastrian or Satanic for all I care. If he's Muslim, that's cool. IDGAF.
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Your Pollitical Correctness blinds you. See how being a Muslim leader has worked out for the freedoms of the rest of the world. For people of other faiths or agnostics, for womens rights, for gays, etc....
He may not be a Muslim, but it does matter. That might not be a PC statement just a factual one.

Remember, The truth does not have an agenda, it's just the truth.
 
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MUR73 said:
Your Pollitical Correctness blinds you. See how being a Muslim leader has worked out for the freedoms of the rest of the world. For people of other faiths or agnostics, for womens rights, for gays, etc....
He may not be a Muslim, but it does matter. That might not be a PC statement just a factual one.

Remember, The truth does not have an agenda, it's just the truth.
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another thing about the muslim religions. it's not just a religion. it's also a form a government. their government and religion do go hand in hand. so if you're a christian, the government has no problem killing you, or if you're a woman, they have no problems beating you because their religion deems it acceptable.

volatile is a PC whore.
 
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