The Supreme Court of the United States Thread

[luthervol]

Start out with pro death penalty....that person was given a chance and blew it. Does the fetus have that chance? Guess you could say I am pro chance.

How important to you is it that those chances are as equal as possible?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

So minutes before birth then, the child is still just a clump of cells in your view?

Behold the evil and depravity of the pro-abortionist. And these people believe they have the moral high ground. You sound like a nazi. “Jews aren’t people.”

You really should stop trying to see things through such a simple lens. That ain't what I said.

 

[Sandman 423]

I'll play devil's advocate.

One is a punishment for (almost always) taking lives.

And when we get one wrong? Do we then kill the judge, jury, or the executioner?

 

[VFFL@THE BEACH]

Federal executions of murderers is a principle of justice and not murder. This is a false equivalency, in no way compares to murdering innocent children, and is not the debate point you think it is.

It is the debate point that you don't like but is totally relevant to your post. I fixed your post for you.

No, I support a ban on all murders of fetuses in a womans body. No one(except the government) has the constitutional right to murder someone.

 

[SamRebel35]

Right about the time it can live outside the womb.

So technology is the deciding factor? What if we had the technology for a 6 week old fetus to survive and thrive outside of the womb. Would your answer be the same? Would a six week old "clump of cells" be off limits for abortion?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

No sources.

Rape and incest account for few abortions, so why all the attention?

“Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute.”

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

Do you wish to dispute these facts? Is it your claim that the percentages are higher? If so, how much higher? You actually believe that rape, incest, and health of the mother are a major factor in abortion? If so, prove it.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

So technology is the deciding factor? What if we had the technology for a 6 week old fetus to survive and thrive outside of the womb. Would your answer be the same? Would a six week old "clump of cells" be off limits for abortion?

As it stands today, I am fine with my line.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So minutes before birth then, the child is still just a clump of cells in your view?

Behold the evil and depravity of the pro-abortionist. And these people believe they have the moral high ground. You sound like a nazi. “Jews aren’t people.”

Class 6 butthurt.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

It is the debate point that you don't like but is totally relevant to your post. I fixed your post for you.

So you support the death penalty?

My worldview is perfectly consistent with capital punishment of convicted killers while placing a ban on murder. I suspect your worldview is a lot more convoluted

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Jesus, dude. That is some ghoulish sh*t right there.

Shield your virgin eyes.

 

[VOLS INC.]

You really should head back to the kiddie table. This is way beyond your ken.

Nice comeback!

Wow. I’m just mesmerized by your ability to articulate your ideas and argue your main points.

I’ll be watching from the kiddie table as you continue to impress us all.

 

[RockyTop85]

Class 6 butthurt.

Dude sounds like he sat bare ass on a cactus.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Nice comeback!

Wow. I’m just mesmerized by your ability to articulate your ideas and argue your main points.

I’ll be watching from the kiddie table as you continue to impress us all.

Color me surprised you could read it and follow it's instruction. Cheers, mate!

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Class 6 butthurt.

When the arguments fail, this is what comes out. You have no reasonings or justifications. Just admit it and stop lying to yourself.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Dude sounds like he sat bare ass on a cactus.

Like kiestering a chestnut.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

When the arguments fail, this is what comes out. You have no reasonings or justifications. Just admit it and stop lying to yourself.

You called people nazis. Shut the **** up, hahaha.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

You called people nazis. Shut the **** up, hahaha.

Again, you lose. Good day sir.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Again, you lose. Good day sir.

Go suck on a lemon, buddy!

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Go suck on a lemon, buddy!

I’m sorry that less babies will die. I know that upsets you.

 

[hog88]

How?

Can you sell your ass, a kidney or slam heroin if you want to?

 

[txbo]

I strongly disagree.

Abusing and neglecting your children is not part of that constitutional guarantee because it inflicts harm on another person. Protecting individuals from injury by other individuals is maybe the central role of a collective society.

Re marriage: again, no. Mildred and Richard Loving were sentenced to a year in jail for violating Virginia’s interracial marriage law. The right to interracial marriage was tethered to the constitution by the same 14th am. due process clause.

Same for John Lawrence and Texas’s sodomy law where the court expanded the right to privacy to encompass your ability to fornicate as you see fit. (Returning to the abuse and neglect examples, momentarily, nobody has seriously entertained the idea that this gives a right to commit rape.)

Even when it comes to just recognizing a marriage, what you’re really talking about is a legal status that confers certain benefits. While I’m fine with governments limiting the scope of those benefits, the government should not be in the business of denying those benefits based on immutable characteristics like race and gender anymore than it should be in the business of denying them based on religious belief.

I'm not expecting many sodomy or interracial marriage laws to spread through state legislatures but the 14th amendment wasn't meant to stop such things. Those are state issues. Nothing in the constitution grants the federal government authority to govern marriage. That's a state issue.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I’m sorry that less babies will die. I know that upsets you.

You are fooling yourself if you think that's what is going to happen.

 

[AirVol]

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Dude sounds like he sat bare ass on a cactus.

Lol I am absolutely thrilled! I’m not going to be the one raging in the streets and burning buildings down.

 

[VFFL@THE BEACH]

Rape and incest account for few abortions, so why all the attention?

“Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute.”

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

Do you wish to dispute these facts? Is it your claim that the percentages are higher? If so, how much higher? You actually believe that rape, incest, and health of the mother are a major factor in abortion? If so, prove it.

You posted percentages without any sources.

Those are factors in abortion, not the major driving forces, except for women's health. However, for the instances of rape, the father gets visitation rights, correct?

Mental health and well being are also an important factors.