The Supreme Court of the United States Thread

[82_VOL_83]

And when we get one wrong? Do we then kill the judge, jury, or the executioner?

I'm all for showing the same indiscriminate attitude toward the death penalty that we do abortion right now.

 

[luthervol]

You literally said that the baby becomes a baby “when the child separates from the mother.” Do you wish to walk it back?

No.
You asked a stupid question and I was foolish enough to answer.
It's the very definition of "baby".
Ba-by
noun

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Ok. So you support the butchering and dismembering of a baby 1 minute before birth. And yet you said I’m irrational? You’re sick dude. Just own it.

You're arguing with someone who thinks everything thats happened the last 2 years was needed. Cant help those who dont want to be helped.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

You're arguing with someone who thinks everything thats happened the last 2 years was needed. Cant help those who dont want to be helped.

I’m very aware of who I’m arguing with. I’m just exposing the wickedness and irrationality on display.

 

[luthervol]

If you're going to arbitrarily pick a point, might as well pick the one that most closely aligns with your political biases. Smart.

Or the very definition of the word.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

No.
You asked a stupid question and I was foolish enough to answer.
It's the very definition of "baby".
Ba-by
noun

1. 1.
   a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
   "his wife's just had a baby"

No, you’re walking it back by ignoring the context of our discussion.

I’ll ask you directly. At what point during pregnancy should abortion be banned?

 

[luthervol]

More like the time it is separate from the mother. That's ****ed up dude.

That's the definition dude.

 

[rjd970]

When does the baby in the womb become a baby?

This is really where the heart of the debate is and why there is so much disagreement.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

This is really where the heart of the debate is and why there is so much disagreement.

Which is why leftist in this thread are trying desperately to say that babies aren’t babies, some even until birth.

 

[luthervol]

Note the intact umbilical chord. Thus, attached to mother. Thus, abortable in your eyes. Where is he misrepresenting your view?

I have never said that I support abortions up to the point of birth......maybe that is where the misrepresentation is.

 

[SamRebel35]

Which is why leftist in this thread are trying desperately to say that babies aren’t babies, some even until birth.

After birth, but before umbilical cutting.

 

[SamRebel35]

I have never said that I support abortions up to the point of birth......maybe that is where the misrepresentation is.

Ok, so there is a developmental stage of the "fetus" that is out of bounds for abortion?

 

[luthervol]

No, you’re walking it back by ignoring the context of our discussion.

I’ll ask you directly. At what point during pregnancy should abortion be banned?

20 weeks except for medical emergencies.

 

[rjd970]

Which is why leftist in this thread are trying desperately to say that babies aren’t babies, some even until birth.

Just my opinion, but late term abortions are murder. Likewise, there isn't a person at conception. I don't agree with either extreme.

The middle ground is where it gets tough, and philosophically hard to defend either way.

 

[SamRebel35]

20 weeks except for medical emergencies.

I see. In your eyes, even though it is only a fetus and not a baby, it is still wrong to abort after 20 weeks.

 

[luthervol]

Which is why leftist in this thread are trying desperately to say that babies aren’t babies, some even until birth.

Why don't you provide us the "definition" of baby?
I did.
Your turn.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Just my opinion, but late term abortions are murder. Likewise, there isn't a person at conception. I don't agree with either extreme.

The middle ground is where it gets tough, and philosophically hard to defend either way.

I am opposed to all abortions. Life begins at conception. But once that heart starts beating at 6 weeks, for anyone to argue that isn’t a baby, is irrational and only stated to be justification for killing the baby and avoiding the responsibility of having and raising a child.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

20 weeks except for medical emergencies.

So you would support abortion bans after 20 weeks?

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Abortions should only be allowed if
1: Baby is at serious risk of death
2. Mother is as serious risk of death
3. Baby was conceived during rape or is a product of incest <.5% of cases
Other than that, actions have consequences, so deal with them. The left wants their free murders because they dont want to be held accountable for their actions. If you play, then you need to pay.

 

[SamRebel35]

So you would support abortion bans after 20 weeks?

That's what it sounds like. Just don't call it a baby until the umbilical chord is cut.

 

[luthervol]

Ok, so there is a developmental stage of the "fetus" that is out of bounds for abortion?

That has always been my stance.
That's why I've always maintained the Roe v Wade was genius.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Baby at 19 weeks…

 

[luthervol]

Just my opinion, but late term abortions are murder. Likewise, there isn't a person at conception. I don't agree with either extreme.

The middle ground is where it gets tough, and philosophically hard to defend either way.

Sam and I both liked this post.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

No, they just dictated it wasn't a federal issue and should have never been. They didn't outlaw abortion. They sent it back to each individual state to do their own thing.

This is fine parsing. They removed a constitutional right that had belonged to women for 50 years.

 

[luthervol]

So you would support abortion bans after 20 weeks?

Except for medical emergencies.