The Supreme Court of the United States Thread

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hog88 said:
Call it whatever you want.
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They always come out and state what the other side is, which they are actually doing.

Hillary was saying Trump was a Russian agent, the whole time she was getting paid by the Russians (and the rest of the crew were busy coming up with the Steele nonsense and colluding with Congress, FBI and CIA).

I haven't seen any of these jokers explain all the corrupt conspiracies they were involved in regards to Russia Gate.
 
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KptVFL said:
So primaries are meaningless. Interesting. Democracy at work......Oh wait
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They are meaningful. But the party choosing to set the result aside for good cause is hardly a coup.

What if information came to light that Trump in fact was on Putin's payroll? I mean, irrefutable evidence of it. Would the GOP be forced to nominate him at the upcoming convention? No, of course not.

If in this case the Dem party decides that Biden is not competent to be POTUS for the next four year,s that his decline is too imminent and substantial, they ought to be able to set aside the primary results, too.


Neither would be a good look. But as is, it seems to me that Biden has next to no chance to win and that it his own ego standing in the way. Reminds me a bit of RBG hanging on for too long. The old guard -- across the board (see e.g. McConnell) have to learn to step aside when the stepping is good.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I refuse to accept that Mary’s lamb ever went to school. Therefore, you must think it’s illegal to own lambs!
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It’s been 3 years. The facts have been disclosed as much as they are likely to ever be. They’ve been argued about and discussed on here as each new piece of information came out.

Maybe you legitimately think that is the only viable view of the facts.

Or maybe this is yet another re-run of the tired old tactic of shameless strawmanning to goad someone into disproving your own willful ignorance.

Either way, it’s not a prelude to an interesting conversation.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
It’s been 3 years. The facts have been disclosed as much as they are likely to ever be. They’ve been argued about and discussed on here as each new piece of information came out.

Maybe you legitimately think that is the only viable view of the facts.

Or maybe this is yet another re-run of the tired old tactic of shameless strawmanning to goad someone into disproving your own willful ignorance.

Either way, it’s not a prelude to an interesting conversation.
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You are quoting someone else.

My question(s) to you remains though.
 
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hog88 said:
Call it whatever you want.
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Serious question: as someone who thinks that our federal government is out of control partly because individual votes count too little, how under-control do you think the federal government would be if votes didn’t count at all?

My apologies if I’ve misconstrued your beliefs.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Serious question: as someone who thinks that our federal government is out of control partly because individual votes count too little, how under-control do you think the federal government would be if votes didn’t count at all?

My apologies if I’ve misconstrued your beliefs.
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When did that happen?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
You are quoting someone else.

My question(s) to you remains though.
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It’s been 3 years. The facts have been disclosed as much as they are likely to ever be. They’ve been argued about and discussed on here as each new piece of information came out.

Maybe you legitimately think that is the only viable view of the facts.

Or maybe this is yet another re-run of the tired old tactic of shameless strawmanning to goad someone into disproving your own willful ignorance.

Either way, it’s not a prelude to an interesting conversation
 
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LSU-SIU said:
When did that happen?
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It’s been 3 years. The facts have been disclosed as much as they are likely to ever be. They’ve been argued about and discussed on here as each new piece of information came out.

Maybe you legitimately think that is the only viable view of the facts.

Or maybe this is yet another re-run of the tired old tactic of shameless strawmanning to goad someone into disproving your own willful ignorance.

Either way, it’s not a prelude to an interesting conversation
 
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RockyTop85 said:
It’s been 3 years. The facts have been disclosed as much as they are likely to ever be. They’ve been argued about and discussed on here as each new piece of information came out.

Maybe you legitimately think that is the only viable view of the facts.

Or maybe this is yet another re-run of the tired old tactic of shameless strawmanning to goad someone into disproving your own willful ignorance.

Either way, it’s not a prelude to an interesting conversation
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I don't know what you are doing, you appear to be spamming the board or something.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
It’s been 3 years. The facts have been disclosed as much as they are likely to ever be. They’ve been argued about and discussed on here as each new piece of information came out.

Maybe you legitimately think that is the only viable view of the facts.

Or maybe this is yet another re-run of the tired old tactic of shameless strawmanning to goad someone into disproving your own willful ignorance.

Either way, it’s not a prelude to an interesting conversation
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Why are you spamming the board?(the questions weren't even hard)
😂
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Serious question: as someone who thinks that our federal government is out of control partly because individual votes count too little, how under-control do you think the federal government would be if votes didn’t count at all?

My apologies if I’ve misconstrued your beliefs.
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Yes, you have misconstrued my beliefs.

The only federal office we (the citizens) should be casting a vote for is for our Representative. The 17th amendment should be repealed and we go back to state legislators picking the Senate. I also think we should do away with presidential primaries in each state and go to party caucuses where members select delegates and they choose the nominees at the conventions. But of course I also fully believe that our federal government has outgrown it's intended purpose, scope and size and needs to be slashed/burned and cut down to a point where it matters little to the average citizen who is sitting in the WH.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes, you have misconstrued my beliefs.

The only federal office we (the citizens) should be casting a vote for is for our Representative. The 17th amendment should be repealed and we go back to state legislators picking the Senate. I also think we should do away with presidential primaries in each state and go to party caucuses where members select delegates and they choose the nominees at the conventions. But of course I also fully believe that our federal government has outgrown it's intended purpose, scope and size and needs to be slashed/burned and cut down to a point where it matters little to the average citizen who is sitting in the WH.
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He appears to be claiming I am creating a strawman by asking simple questions. Than he goes on to justify all this by claiming that votes won't matter, but the reality of the situation is nothing has occurred. If Pence had actually failed to certified (or other) than he might have a point, but even that didn't occur.

He sent a meme indicated I shouldn't be "unsure", yet he went off radar after I asked directly.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes, you have misconstrued my beliefs.

The only federal office we (the citizens) should be casting a vote for is for our Representative. The 17th amendment should be repealed and we go back to state legislators picking the Senate. I also think we should do away with presidential primaries in each state and go to party caucuses where members select delegates and they choose the nominees at the conventions. But of course I also fully believe that our federal government has outgrown it's intended purpose, scope and size and needs to be slashed/burned and cut down to a point where it matters little to the average citizen who is sitting in the WH.
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Agencies are the problem. If you start disbanding agencies and moving their functions back to the states/county/city governments, that would start the fix.

Dept of Education is an easy one to pick on because of its high visibility. They should literally scrap all its functions other than FAFSA (which was the original reason for DOE existence, to help with needs-based scholarships). Even that function, could probably go under Dept of Treasurery.
 
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#10,495
hog88 said:
Yes, you have misconstrued my beliefs.

The only federal office we (the citizens) should be casting a vote for is for our Representative. The 17th amendment should be repealed and we go back to state legislators picking the Senate. I also think we should do away with presidential primaries in each state and go to party caucuses where members select delegates and they choose the nominees at the conventions. But of course I also fully believe that our federal government has outgrown it's intended purpose, scope and size and needs to be slashed/burned and cut down to a point where it matters little to the average citizen who is sitting in the WH.
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hog88 said:
I'm not extreme politically. I just want to be left alone and think the majority of decisions need to be made at the local level. What builds extremism is when an overbearing central government forces one size fits all laws onto everyone. What might be completely acceptable, normal and welcome in one part of the country may be outlandish and completely unacceptable in another. As long as states and localities are not violating to bill of rights and interfering with interstate commerce I don't have a problem with what they do inside of their borders.

I don't want to force my lifestyle, beliefs, customs or ideology onto anyone else.
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Sorry, I was recalling this conversation and, I think, others like it and possibly inferring too much.
 
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hog88 said:
I think those two posts align so I don't get who you could be inferring from them.
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I inferred that you believed that things should be decided on the local level because smaller governments = fewer voters = more weight to individual votes and that there should be suffrage tests to reduce the number of votes to make votes count more.
 
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hog88 said:
Absolute rubbish.

Well maybe not, Obama got away with it.
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Go ahead and define "official acts of the President" for me, Gramps.

Pretty sure a President can officially declare a person, place or thing an "enemy of the state".

Donald Trump incited an insurrection / riot intended to overturn / stop our government's election process.

As such, Joe Biden can now - legally - declare Donald Trump a domestic terrorist.

His next call would be to Seal Team 6.

Prove me wrong.
 
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