The Supreme Court of the United States Thread

[McDad]

I'm tired of it. I have filets to grill. And green beans. Much more important

Been here 13 years. Got time over the next few hours, days, or weeks.

Enjoy your dinner.

 

[jmacvols1]

They shouldn't be receiving "gifts" (bribes) and I have no issue at all with her going after them for it. Unfortunately, I think they are allowed to though.

But there is a difference between taking bibes and taking a boat trip with a friends on a yacht.

 

[jmacvols1]

How long before MTG does the same to Sotomayor?

if this is the game Dems want to play, Rep will have to follow.

 

[Septic]

But there is a difference between taking bibes and taking a boat trip with a friends on a yatch.

 

[jmacvols1]

So Justices can never come into contact with other people...a Justice accepting a birthday gift, that gift could be called a bribe?

 

[Septic]

So Justices can never come into contact with other people...a Justice accepting a birthday gift, that gift could be called a bribe?

The mental gymnastics you jump through to reconcile obvious and willful ethics violations is both comical and sad.

This stuff isnt even hard to find.

Clarence Thomas: Here Are All The Ethics Scandals Involving The Supreme Court Justice Amid Unpaid RV Loan Revelations

Thomas never repaid a "substantial portion" of a $267,230 loan from a wealthy friend, a Senate investigation found, raising potential tax issues.

www.forbes.com

You're the MAGA version of Turbo. Tribal to the core, it's why you're relegated to the fringe with dismissive eyerolls - which is an impressive feat here in VNPF.

If you had a modicum of objectivity, you realize just how dumb you look trying to pin Alito's and Thomas's BS on the left.

 

[RockyTop85]

The mental gymnastics you jump through to reconcile obvious and willful ethics violations is both comical and sad.

This stuff isnt even hard to find.

Clarence Thomas: Here Are All The Ethics Scandals Involving The Supreme Court Justice Amid Unpaid RV Loan Revelations

Thomas never repaid a "substantial portion" of a $267,230 loan from a wealthy friend, a Senate investigation found, raising potential tax issues.

www.forbes.com

You're the MAGA version of Turbo. Tribal to the core, it's why you're relegated to the fringe with dismissive eyerolls - which is impressive here in VNPF.

If you had a modicum of objectivity, you realize just how dumb you look trying to pin Alito's and Thomas's BS on the left.

MAGA version of Turbo

 

[jmacvols1]

The mental gymnastics you jump through to reconcile obvious and willful ethics violations is both comical and sad.

This stuff isnt even hard to find.

Clarence Thomas: Here Are All The Ethics Scandals Involving The Supreme Court Justice Amid Unpaid RV Loan Revelations

Thomas never repaid a "substantial portion" of a $267,230 loan from a wealthy friend, a Senate investigation found, raising potential tax issues.

www.forbes.com

You're the MAGA version of Turbo. Tribal to the core, it's why you're relegated to the fringe with dismissive eyerolls - which is an impressive feat here in VNPF.

If you had a modicum of objectivity, you realize just how dumb you look trying to pin Alito's and Thomas's BS on the left.

Thomas satisfied the loan agreement.

"Welters’ representatives told investigators that he believes there may have been additional interest payments — and, with less certainty, perhaps payment of some fraction of the principal,.....Welters, in a statement to the Times on Wednesday, said that because the loan was made so many years ago, “bank records — which I have sought — no longer exist. While not a tangible record, I continue to put stock in my contemporaneous belief.”

Justice Thomas’ RV Loan Was Forgiven, Senate Inquiry Finds - Falls Church News-Press Online

By: Jo Becker, The New York Times. Julie Tate contributed reporting. The terms of the private loan were as generous as they were clear: With no money down, Justice Clarence Thomas could borrow more than a quarter of a million dollars from a wealthy friend to buy a 40-foot luxury motor coach...

www.fcnp.com

"Thomas's attorney Elliot Berke said, "The loan was never forgiven. Any suggestion to the contrary is false. The Thomases made all payments to Mr. Welters on a regular basis until the terms of the agreement were satisfied in full."

Clarence Thomas loan report spurs new ethics criticism of US Supreme Court

New findings that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas apparently failed to repay at least a "significant portion" of a $267,230 loan he received from a wealthy benefactor prompted Senate Democrats on Thursday to step up their criticism of the court's lack of an ethics code. A personal...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Septic]

Thomas satisfied the loan agreement.

"Welters’ representatives told investigators that he believes there may have been additional interest payments — and, with less certainty, perhaps payment of some fraction of the principal,.....Welters, in a statement to the Times on Wednesday, said that because the loan was made so many years ago, “bank records — which I have sought — no longer exist. While not a tangible record, I continue to put stock in my contemporaneous belief.”

Justice Thomas’ RV Loan Was Forgiven, Senate Inquiry Finds - Falls Church News-Press Online

By: Jo Becker, The New York Times. Julie Tate contributed reporting. The terms of the private loan were as generous as they were clear: With no money down, Justice Clarence Thomas could borrow more than a quarter of a million dollars from a wealthy friend to buy a 40-foot luxury motor coach...

www.fcnp.com

"Thomas's attorney Elliot Berke said, "The loan was never forgiven. Any suggestion to the contrary is false. The Thomases made all payments to Mr. Welters on a regular basis until the terms of the agreement were satisfied in full."

Clarence Thomas loan report spurs new ethics criticism of US Supreme Court

New findings that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas apparently failed to repay at least a "significant portion" of a $267,230 loan he received from a wealthy benefactor prompted Senate Democrats on Thursday to step up their criticism of the court's lack of an ethics code. A personal...

www.yahoo.com

The United States Senate Committee on Finance

Justice Thomas Did Not Repay Substantial Portion of $267,230 Loan, Finance Committee Investigation Reveals; Failed to Report Forgiven Debt on Ethics Filings, Raising Questions About Tax Compliance

www.finance.senate.gov

-A handwritten note from Mr. Welters to Justice Thomas, dated November 22, 2008, stating that Welters would no longer seek further payments on the loan. This note also stated that Justice Thomas had paid interest only on the loan, indicating that the principal of $267,230 had not been repaid by Justice Thomas.

Nothing you just offered suggests that the loan was repaid in full, just that the terms of the agreement were satisfied. Difference and distinction. Satisfying loan agreements are easy when not paying back the loan in full is the agreement.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

You're a hack. Go sit in the corner and contemplate your life choices.

 

[Caculator]

Lawfare attemped on the Supreme Court
this bs goes nowhere

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[jmacvols1]

The United States Senate Committee on Finance

Justice Thomas Did Not Repay Substantial Portion of $267,230 Loan, Finance Committee Investigation Reveals; Failed to Report Forgiven Debt on Ethics Filings, Raising Questions About Tax Compliance

www.finance.senate.gov

Nothing you just offered suggests that the loan was repaid in full, just that the terms of the agreement were satisfied. Difference and distinction. Satisfying loan agreements are easy when not paying back the loan in full is the agreement.

Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

You're a hack. Go sit in the corner and contemplate your life choices.

Parties involved in the loan said the loan was satisfied and the loan was not forgiven. All we have here are Democrat hacks on a Senate committee who are making accusations up out of thin air on some transaction that occurred about 30 years ago to smear Justice Thomas.

 

[Septic]

Parties involved in the loan said the loan was satisfied and the loan was not forgiven. All we have here are Democrat hacks on a Senate committee who are making accusations up out of thin air on some transaction that occurred about 30 years ago to smear Justice Thomas.

Try to keep up.

If I lend you $100 and only ask you to pay me back $1 and you do, the loan is technically "satisfied."

People don't do that unless there's quid pro quo.

If this had happened to any of the liberal justices, you'd be frothing at the mouth - worse than you already are.

 

[hog88]

Try to keep up.

If I lend you $100 and only ask you to pay me back $1 and you do, the loan is technically "satisfied."

People don't do that unless there's quid pro quo.

If this had happened to any of the liberal justices, you'd be frothing at the mouth - worse than you already are.

So did Thomas pay back the loan in full or not?

 

[Septic]

So did Thomas pay back the loan in full or not?

Not according to Senate Finance Committee investigation.

The United States Senate Committee on Finance

Justice Thomas Did Not Repay Substantial Portion of $267,230 Loan, Finance Committee Investigation Reveals; Failed to Report Forgiven Debt on Ethics Filings, Raising Questions About Tax Compliance

www.finance.senate.gov

-A handwritten note from Mr. Welters to Justice Thomas, dated November 22, 2008, stating that Welters would no longer seek further payments on the loan. This note also stated that Justice Thomas had paid interest only on the loan, indicating that the principal of $267,230 had not been repaid by Justice Thomas.

 

[hog88]

Not according to Senate Finance Committee investigation.

The United States Senate Committee on Finance

Justice Thomas Did Not Repay Substantial Portion of $267,230 Loan, Finance Committee Investigation Reveals; Failed to Report Forgiven Debt on Ethics Filings, Raising Questions About Tax Compliance

www.finance.senate.gov

-A handwritten note from Mr. Welters to Justice Thomas, dated November 22, 2008, stating that Welters would no longer seek further payments on the loan. This note also stated that Justice Thomas had paid interest only on the loan, indicating that the principal of $267,230 had not been repaid by Justice Thomas.

Interesting that they never say exactly how much Thomas paid.


Edit: Found this in the actual report:

In November 2008, 9 years after the loan agreement was executed, Welters forgave the balance of the loan to Thomas in recognition of the payments made by Thomas which Welters characterized as interest only payments that exceeded the amount of the original loan. While additional documents pertaining to the loan agreement may exist and provide more clarity to the agreement, none of the documents reviewed by Committee staff indicated that Thomas ever made payments to Welters in excess of the annual interest on the loan.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Can you fly for a private company?

Can I pay you to fly me around in my government surplus F-15E?

I'd do that for free. You buy the gas though

 

[jmacvols1]

Interesting that they never say exactly how much Thomas paid.


Edit: Found this in the actual report:

Justice Thomas’ RV Loan Was Forgiven, Senate Inquiry Finds - Falls Church News-Press Online

By: Jo Becker, The New York Times. Julie Tate contributed reporting. The terms of the private loan were as generous as they were clear: With no money down, Justice Clarence Thomas could borrow more than a quarter of a million dollars from a wealthy friend to buy a 40-foot luxury motor coach...

www.fcnp.com

"Welters’ representatives told investigators that he believes there may have been additional interest payments — and, with less certainty, perhaps payment of some fraction of the principal,.....Welters, in a statement to the Times on Wednesday, said that because the loan was made so many years ago, “bank records — which I have sought — no longer exist. While not a tangible record, I continue to put stock in my contemporaneous belief.”

Actually it is unknown exactly how much was paid back since this happened almost 30 years ago and bank documents no longer exist.

Dems trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[jmacvols1]

Try to keep up.

If I lend you $100 and only ask you to pay me back $1 and you do, the loan is technically "satisfied."

People don't do that unless there's quid pro quo.

If this had happened to any of the liberal justices, you'd be frothing at the mouth - worse than you already are.

Liberal justices have taken money, gifts, etc and should have recused themselves at times but did not......and I was not frothing at the mouth. Strange how the left had no problem with the USSC when liberals had control and now have problems they no longer get their way in the SC.

 

[Septic]

Liberal justices have taken money, gifts, etc and should have recused themselves at times but did not......and I was not frothing at the mouth. Strange how the left had no problem with the USSC when liberals had control and now have problems they no longer get their way in the SC.

Can you provided some examples?

 

[volinbham]

Can you provided some examples?

Ginsberg on Trump's taxes

Comments she made in 2016

“He is a faker,” she said of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, going point by point, as if presenting a legal brief. “He has no consistency about him. He says whatever comes into his head at the moment. He really has an ego. … How has he gotten away with not turning over his tax returns? The press seems to be very gentle with him on that.”

Trump says Sotomayor, Ginsburg must recuse themselves from cases related to him

The comments come one month before the Supreme Court takes up cases related to the president's tax returns and financial records.

www.nbcnews.com

The comments come one month before the Supreme Court takes up cases related to the president's tax returns and financial records.


Seems like a legit beef or at least as legit as the ones presented here.

and

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/11/1187005372/sonia-sotomayor-supreme-court-staff-book-sales-signings-memoir

 

[rekinhavoc]

Federal judge rules that 156-year-old ban on at-home distilling is unconstitutional

Federal judge in Texas ruled that an 1868 ban on at-home distilling exceeded Congress's taxing power and violated the U.S. Constitution's Commerce Clause.

www.foxnews.com

Fire up the stills boys!

 

[turbovol]

Justice Thomas’ RV Loan Was Forgiven, Senate Inquiry Finds - Falls Church News-Press Online

By: Jo Becker, The New York Times. Julie Tate contributed reporting. The terms of the private loan were as generous as they were clear: With no money down, Justice Clarence Thomas could borrow more than a quarter of a million dollars from a wealthy friend to buy a 40-foot luxury motor coach...

www.fcnp.com

"Welters’ representatives told investigators that he believes there may have been additional interest payments — and, with less certainty, perhaps payment of some fraction of the principal,.....Welters, in a statement to the Times on Wednesday, said that because the loan was made so many years ago, “bank records — which I have sought — no longer exist. While not a tangible record, I continue to put stock in my contemporaneous belief.”

Actually it is unknown exactly how much was paid back since this happened almost 30 years ago and bank documents no longer exist.

Dems trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Democrats trying to make a mountain out of a demonstrably corrupt Supreme Court Justice. As in seriously corrupt.

We've just now learned that Thomas and Harlan Crow--who I read has Nazi sympathies--took a trip to Russia in 2003. Did Thomas report this
trip to the government, as he was supposed to? He did not. He kept it secret. The man should be impeached. We've got a lumpy black trump on SCOTUS. This thread lays out some of the implications....

 

[StarRaider]

 

[Orangeburst]