The Trap's Initial '10-'11 Top 10.

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#26
hatvol96 said:
Detroit is loaded enough to challenge Hayward less Butler in the Horizon.
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Why do you think the Ray kid signed with Detroit?? Is he good enough to make them a contender this early? Or have they had solid classes before this year. Just curious
 
#28
#28
lylsmorr said:
Why do you think the Ray kid signed with Detroit?? Is he good enough to make them a contender this early? Or have they had solid classes before this year. Just curious
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McCallum is way too good to be playing in the Horizon. They also had some people transfer in from BCS leagues. They are about as talent laden as you'll ever see at that level. If they had a competent coach, I could see them in the Sweet 16.
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#30
#30
getyopopcornready said:
His dad's the head coach.
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Makes way more sense now

hatvol96 said:
McCallum is way too good to be playing in the Horizon. They also had some people transfer in from BCS leagues. They are about as talent laden as you'll ever see at that level. If they had a competent coach, I could see them in the Sweet 16.
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That's a pretty tall order. It will be interesting to see them this year. What do you think about Dayton? They have a pretty solid recruiting class coming in
 
#31
#31
lylsmorr said:
Florida has absolutely no room to mention lucky game winning shots. Period.
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never said we didn't get a miracle @NC State. that shot almost never goes in.

but Tennessee was a top ten team last year and still needed a very remarkable shot to not get swept by a team with only 8 players the entire year, had zero senior starters and all but 1 starter either a first year player or playing a new position. despite that they were in every single game and in most of their losses came down to the final seconds. had they been a marginally better perimeter shooting team it's not difficult to see how they would have won a lot more games last year. literally everyone is back except offensive blackholes Dan Werner and Ray Shipman, at minimum get back Kadji from season-ending injury and add a pretty darn good recruiting class.

i resent the characterization of our team as gutless. that was the worst perimeter shooting team ever under Donovan as Walker was learning to play PG on the job, Boynton was a freshmen and Werner and Shipman couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. If we were gutless chuckers we should have lost a lot more games and been blown out in our losses. But we were in pretty much every loss until the final seconds we still in there fighting. Nobody rolled over. Our guts is the only thing that kept our inexperience and depth from killing us in the toughest divisional play in SEC East history.
 
#32
#32
lylsmorr said:
Makes way more sense now


That's a pretty tall order. It will be interesting to see them this year. What do you think about Dayton? They have a pretty solid recruiting class coming in
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Dayton can't seem to get over the hump. The incoming point guard will certainly help.
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#33
#33
swampy said:
never said we didn't get a miracle @NC State. that shot almost never goes in.

but Tennessee was a top ten team last year and still needed a very remarkable shot to not get swept by a team with only 8 players the entire year, had zero senior starters and all but 1 starter either a first year player or playing a new position. despite that they were in every single game and in most of their losses came down to the final seconds.
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I guess you missed the part where 2 walk-ons played more than 15 minutes a game for us. We didn't have top 10 talent. Also, I think the part you mentioned in the latter of this post about jacking all those 3's is what Hat is talking about with the "gutless" part
 
#34
#34
swampy said:
. Tennessee did need a pretty remarkable Scottie Hopson turnaround jumper to avoid getting swept by the gutless chuckers this past season
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I saw it more as your player missed a lay-up to win the game.
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#35
#35
hatvol96 said:
It's not really hard. Same as it is on most of Donovan's rosters. Presume everyone is a finesse playing coward, then wait for someone to show you they are the exception. Take Donnell Harvey, Al Horford, Jackwad Noah, and possibly then overweight U Haslam out of the equation and the presumption of vaginitis has always won out.
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my request was for you to point out who the finesse playing cowards on our roster next year are. can you do that for me. i'll help you out a little and list our scholarship players for next year. all you've got to is point them out.

Starters
G Erving Walker JR
G Kenny Boynton SO
F Chandler Parsons SR
F Alex Tyus SR
C Vernon Macklin RSR

Bench
F Erik Murphy SO
F/C Kenny Kadji RSO
F/C Patric Young FR
G/F Casey Prather FR
G Scottie Wilbekin
F Cody Larson FR
F Will Yeguete FR

Pending recovery from surgery
F Adam Allen
 
#37
#37
swampy said:
my request was for you to point out who the finesse playing cowards on our roster next year are. can you do that for me. i'll help you out a little and list our scholarship players for next year. all you've got to is point them out.

Starters
G Erving Walker JR
G Kenny Boynton SO
F Chandler Parsons SR
F Alex Tyus SR
C Vernon Macklin RSR

Bench
F Erik Murphy SO
F/C Kenny Kadji RSO
F/C Patric Young FR
G/F Casey Prather FR
G Scottie Wilbekin
F Cody Larson FR
F Will Yeguete FR

Pending recovery from surgery
F Adam Allen
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Macklin is the only guy among that group who might not occasionally strain a vaginal wall and he was too soft to survive in the Big East. Any other questions?
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#38
#38
Hat, have you heard anything on a player from Mississippi named Jeverick Nelson? I've heard he would be a solid CUSA or Sun Belt player, but ended up signing with last year's OVC bottomfeeder(and my alma mater) UT-Martin
 
#39
#39
lylsmorr said:
I guess you missed the part where 2 walk-ons played more than 15 minutes a game for us. We didn't have top 10 talent. Also, I think the part you mentioned in the latter of this post about jacking all those 3's is what Hat is talking about with the "gutless" part
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you guys did have walk ons play none of them averaged 15 minutes per game last year. we would have loved to have walk-ons who were good enough to play to bolster our depth and earn scholarships.

the Vols and Florida were right next to each other in attempts per game and 3PT%. the difference between the two teams is yours had three senior multi-year starters who had the experience to pull out close games. the only senior starter Florida's had since Lee Humphrey was only made so because Jai Lucas transferred the day before the 08-09 season started. This season we've got three senior, multi-year starters.
 
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#40
#40
hatvol96 said:
Macklin is the only guy among that group who might not occasionally strain a vaginal wall and he was too soft to survive in the Big East. Any other questions?
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so is it safe to say you never watched a game of Florida basketball last season?
 
#41
#41
swampy said:
my request was for you to point out who the finesse playing cowards on our roster next year are. can you do that for me. i'll help you out a little and list our scholarship players for next year. all you've got to is point them out.

Starters
G Erving Walker JR
G Kenny Boynton SO
F Chandler Parsons SR
F Alex Tyus SR
C Vernon Macklin RSR

Bench
F Erik Murphy SO
F/C Kenny Kadji RSO
F/C Patric Young FR
G/F Casey Prather FR
G Scottie Wilbekin
F Cody Larson FR
F Will Yeguete FR

Pending recovery from surgery
F Adam Allen
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I think you listed them all there.
 
#42
#42
swampy said:
you guys did have walk ons play none of them averaged 15 minutes per game last year. we would have loved to have walk-ons who were good enough to play to bolster our depth and earn scholarships.

the Vols and Florida were right next to each other in attempts per game and 3PT%. the difference between the two teams is yours had three senior multi-year starters who had the experience to pull out close games. the only senior starter Florida's had since Lee Humphrey was only made so because Jai Lucas transferred the day before the 08-09 season started. This season we've got three senior, multi-year starters.
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I would be pretty confident in saying that the walk ons averaged 15 min a game after the famed incident. Don't let the season stats tell you otherwise
 
#43
#43
lylsmorr said:
Hat, have you heard anything on a player from Mississippi named Jeverick Nelson? I've heard he would be a solid CUSA or Sun Belt player, but ended up signing with last year's OVC bottomfeeder(and my alma mater) UT-Martin
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I know a fair amount about Dundrecus Nelson who's going to Ole Miss. I don't remember seeing or discussing Jeverick Nelson.
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#45
#45
swampy said:
so is it safe to say you never watched a game of Florida basketball last season?
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No, but it is abundantly clear that you are the type of blind rooting homer I love to ridicule around here. Good to have yet another person to make fun of here.
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#46
#46
lylsmorr said:
I would be pretty confident in saying that the walk ons averaged 15 min a game after the famed incident. Don't let the season stats tell you otherwise
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from the Kansas game on McBee averaged 10 mpg, Pearl averaged 13 mpg and Bone averaged 5 mpg.
 
#49
#49
swampy said:
from the Kansas game on McBee averaged 10 mpg, Pearl averaged 13 mpg and Bone averaged 5 mpg.
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Did you ever play basketball? If so, you should know that if you're coming in the game for 5 minutes on average that you're pretty much in the rotation.
 
#50
#50
swampy said:
my request was for you to point out who the finesse playing cowards on our roster next year are. can you do that for me. i'll help you out a little and list our scholarship players for next year. all you've got to is point them out.

Starters
G Erving Walker JR
G Kenny Boynton SO
F Chandler Parsons SR
F Alex Tyus SR
C Vernon Macklin RSR

Bench
F Erik Murphy SO
F/C Kenny Kadji RSO
F/C Patric Young FR
G/F Casey Prather FR
G Scottie Wilbekin
F Cody Larson FR
F Will Yeguete FR

Pending recovery from surgery
F Adam Allen
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Didnt he declare for the draft?
 
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