The Truth Behind UGA's #1 Pass Defense

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GoBigOrange_2309 said:
Man get outta here with that crap. Bama's passing game was very much average according to the numbers. Don't come in here and act like they could throw the ball up and down the field on EVERYBODY last year
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Well, that's what we were discussing, numbers. And what they mean.

And why would Bama prefer to throw the ball up and down the field? The concept is stupid and very one dimensional.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Like numbers and what they really mean?
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I don't think you're understanding the numbers.

Even if Bama's overall passing ranking is smack dab in the middle, you are correct that it has more to do with Bama not leaning on the passing game because the run game worked so well.

However, in terms of actually assessing UGA's pass defense, the fact that Bama's passing game could have done more is irrelevant. Bama had success throwing against UGA, but didn't pour it on because they didn't need to. Thus, UGA's defensive stats weren't overly diminished by Bama's passing game. Thus, UGA's passing defense looks better on paper than it probably was.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Like numbers and what they really mean?
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The point is that UGA didn't play any of the top passing teams in the nation. The point isn't if Bama was capable of passing. The point is that they didn't earn significant passing yards on the season as compared to the rest of the D1. Therefore, UGAs numbers are inflated.
 
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these numbers are always skewed. Look at the overwhelming majority of Tennessee's wins last year. Against extremely subpar teams. Georgia and Bowling Green had RPIs in the 30s, but the other regular season wins were against RPIs starting in the 70s. One team was in the 170s!
 
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Vol8188 said:
The point is that UGA didn't play any of the top passing teams in the nation. The point isn't if Bama was capable of passing. The point is that they didn't earn significant passing yards on the season as compared to the rest of the D1. Therefore, UGAs numbers are inflated.
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I get it folks. I'm just commenting on one side of the stat inequities and why stats can pretty much sing any song and not tell the real story.


Georgia plays in what Sagarin concedes is the worst division in the power 5 conferences. So any teams in the east would have to be looked at with the same scrutiny.

Statistically speaking.
 
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volfanbill said:
these numbers are always skewed. Look at the overwhelming majority of Tennessee's wins last year. Against extremely subpar teams. Georgia and Bowling Green had RPIs in the 30s, but the other regular season wins were against RPIs starting in the 70s. One team was in the 170s!
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Hey, hey, let's keep the proving stuff aimed at uga and bama!
 
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I see the point. Thread about UGA, hijacked by Bama troll who can't wait to remind everyone that they were good last year. We get it. Where is that ignore button anyway?
 
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Persian Vol said:
If you weren't aware, UGA was ranked #1 last year in pass defense. Very impressive. But then I decided to do a little more research.

These are the offensive passing rankings of the teams they played against last season.

ULM - 82
Vandy -111
South Carolina - 84
Southern - FCS?
Alabama - 62
Tennessee -92
Missouri - 112
Florida - 87
Kentucky - 79
Auburn - 110
Georgia Southern -127
Georgia Tech - 123

UGA fans seem somewhat worried about their defensive line, but they are optimistic about their secondary. I'm sorry UGA fans, but Josh Dobbs (who is a below average passer) lighting up your defense with 300+ yards passing is more indicative of the true capabilities of your passing defense, rather than a #1 ranked stat based on the worst competition possible. With UGA's loss of talent in the trenches, and an overhyped secondary, I expect UGA to have a slightly more difficult time on defense than they would expect.
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Interesting stats. However, Smart's success will be determined by what he is able to do on the offensive side of the ball. Like it or not he is a defensive guru and his years under Saban will serve him well on that side of the ball. Muschamp's downfall at Florida was lack of offense not defense. Like Muschamp, I'm betting Smart will put a strong defense on the field. Hopefully his offense resembles Muschamp's too!
 
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TUSKtimes said:
I get it folks. I'm just commenting on one side of the stat inequities and why stats can pretty much sing any song and not tell the real story.


Georgia plays in what Sagarin concedes is the worst division in the power 5 conferences. So any teams in the east would have to be looked at with the same scrutiny.

Statistically speaking.
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Troll hard, brother
 
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Persian Vol said:
If you weren't aware, UGA was ranked #1 last year in pass defense. Very impressive. But then I decided to do a little more research.

These are the offensive passing rankings of the teams they played against last season.

ULM - 82
Vandy -111
South Carolina - 84
Southern - FCS?
Alabama - 62
Tennessee -92
Missouri - 112
Florida - 87
Kentucky - 79
Auburn - 110
Georgia Southern -127
Georgia Tech - 123

UGA fans seem somewhat worried about their defensive line, but they are optimistic about their secondary. I'm sorry UGA fans, but Josh Dobbs (who is a below average passer) lighting up your defense with 300+ yards passing is more indicative of the true capabilities of your passing defense, rather than a #1 ranked stat based on the worst competition possible. With UGA's loss of talent in the trenches, and an overhyped secondary, I expect UGA to have a slightly more difficult time on defense than they would expect.
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I don't think we'll be worse vs the run this season. I actually think we'll be improved. Pruitt, for whatever reason, was inconsistent with his run D at UGA. That brings us to the pass D. We ran a fairly complex pass D with Pruitt, giving our opponents many different looks. I think both the run and pass Ds will be simplified for the '16 season and it will look more like what we've seen from Bama's recent Ds. Don't forget that UGA has been one of the top schools in recruiting for the past 4 years, so we have some athletes. They just have to quickly learn a new system. I think simplicity will help.
 
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UGADawg4Life said:
I think both the run and pass Ds will be simplified for the '16 season and it will look more like what we've seen from Bama's recent Ds. Don't forget that UGA has been one of the top schools in recruiting for the past 4 years, so we have some athletes. They just have to quickly learn a new system. I think simplicity will help.
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There are many ways one could describe Bama's defensive schemes under Saban and Smart. "Simple" would not be one of them.
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Bama was leading 38 to 3 with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd. Raining sideways, we chose to run clock and shut it down..

Tennessee has a short memory on Bama's ability to throw the ball when they decide.
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How'd you manage to turn THAT into an insult? Oh wait...same team that managed to equate "red team" with a yo mama joke. :loco:
 
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I find it hilarious that we have a stinking bammer in a forum about Georgia defense on a UT centric site wasting the good Internet to tell us how their pass offense was above average.
 
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MSME Vol said:
I find it hilarious that we have a stinking bammer in a forum about Georgia defense on a UT centric site wasting the good Internet to tell us how their pass offense was above average.
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Wrong attitude.

Who would know more about your new best rival than the Crimson team who trained him? Soon as Kirby get's his D-linemen in place it might start feeling like you have to play Bama twice.

And never forget, nothing average about Bama.
 
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