The Walking Dead

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I think the "virus" is a natural occurrence of the human genome, it activates it self to decrease population and weed out weaknesses in our species, mother nature makes it happen when we become over populated, that's why it's already in everyone's system, but babies born after the outbreak are immune to this particular virus and another one is formed that waits 3000 years to activate again. Just my thoughts, how bout y'all!?!
 
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BEATBAMA12 said:
I think the "virus" is a natural occurrence of the human genome, it activates it self to decrease population and weed out weaknesses in our species, mother nature makes it happen when we become over populated, that's why it's already in everyone's system, but babies born after the outbreak are immune to this particular virus and another one is formed that waits 3000 years to activate again. Just my thoughts, how bout y'all!?!
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Bringing fiction to real life, it most definitely wouldn't be a "natural" virus as evolutionary theory rules out a "natural" zombie like mutation so it would have to be engineered.

To be able to infect EVERY human without exception however would be miraculous. Even if you managed to infect the whole world there would still be some small portion of the population that wouldn't have symptoms even after death. They would just die and not come back.
 
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BEATBAMA12 said:
I think the "virus" is a natural occurrence of the human genome, it activates it self to decrease population and weed out weaknesses in our species, mother nature makes it happen when we become over populated, that's why it's already in everyone's system, but babies born after the outbreak are immune to this particular virus and another one is formed that waits 3000 years to activate again. Just my thoughts, how bout y'all!?!
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I kinda like the idea. Sort of like a natural wild fire.
 
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Coug said:
Bringing fiction to real life, it most definitely wouldn't be a "natural" virus as evolutionary theory rules out a "natural" zombie like mutation so it would have to be engineered.

To be able to infect EVERY human without exception however would be miraculous. Even if you managed to infect the whole world there would still be some small portion of the population that wouldn't have symptoms even after death. They would just die and not come back.
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I keep wondering if they will find a person or persons that are immune. The comics haven't even gone there but it would interesting to come across someone that had been bitten but hasn't turned (a la The Last of Us).
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I keep wondering if they will find a person or persons that are immune. The comics haven't even gone there but it would interesting to come across someone that had been bitten but hasn't turned (a la The Last of Us).
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TLOU told that story about as flawlessly as it could be told, IMO.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I keep wondering if they will find a person or persons that are immune. The comics haven't even gone there but it would interesting to come across someone that had been bitten but hasn't turned (a la The Last of Us).
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Since it was revealed in Season 2 that everybody now is infected...I assume that the bitten are dying from a bacterial infection from the Walker's bite (no antibiotics,etc).
A regular human bite frequently gets infected without proper treatment. I can just imagine all the nasty bacteria growing in a Walker's mouth...
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Since it was revealed in Season 2 that everybody now is infected...I assume that the bitten are dying from a bacterial infection from the Walker's bite (no antibiotics,etc).
A regular human bite frequently gets infected without proper treatment. I can just imagine all the nasty bacteria growing in a Walker's mouth...
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Only problem with that theory is a bite from a fresh zombie does the same thing.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Only problem with that theory is a bite from a fresh zombie does the same thing.
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They become sick from a bacterial infection from the bite. Then septic (overwhelming infection) that kills the bitten person. Once they die from the infection, then the Walker substance takes over...new Walker arises
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
They become sick from a bacterial infection from the bite. Then septic (overwhelming infection) that kills the bitten person. Once they die from the infection, then the Walker substance takes over...new Walker arises
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Can't argue with fake science. :w00t:
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
They become sick from a bacterial infection from the bite. Then septic (overwhelming infection) that kills the bitten person. Once they die from the infection, then the Walker substance takes over...new Walker arises
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Then what about the ones who aren't bitten and rise and bite others.

I think it's as simple as introducing the active virus to the victims blood stream which shuts everything down to activate the dormant virus in the person who was bitten, which is why cutting off a limb in time may work.
 
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utvols88 said:
Then what about the ones who aren't bitten and rise and bite others.

I think it's as simple as introducing the active virus to the victims blood stream which shuts everything down to activate the dormant virus in the person who was bitten, which is why cutting off a limb in time may work.
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I'm just saying the Walker virus is already there so the bite does not transmit it .
Whatever kills the person then allows the Walker virus to resurrect the body as a Walker.
 
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butchna said:
Can't argue with fake science. :w00t:
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Oh it's reall all right...just haven't had the chance to prove it yet.

The right combination of rabies/mad cow/bubonic plague and a splash of dengue fever will show you. Gimme a couple more months...
It'll be my answer to obamacare...
:)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Oh it's reall all right...just haven't had the chance to prove it yet.

The right combination of rabies/mad cow/bubonic plague and a splash of dengue fever will show you. Gimme a couple more months...
It'll be my answer to obamacare...
:)
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Preferable. :wink2:
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
I'm just saying the Walker virus is already there so the bite does not transmit it .
Whatever kills the person then allows the Walker virus to resurrect the body as a Walker.
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Like I said, I think the idea is that a walker has the virus at its active state while a living person has a dormant virus that is triggered by something with death. If a walker bites you, it introduces a live/active virus which kills you and jump starts the dormant virus to be active.

I'm not saying that's medical science but I think that's the intended logic.
 
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utvols88 said:
Like I said, I think the idea is that a walker has the virus at its active state while a living person has a dormant virus that is triggered by something with death. If a walker bites you, it introduces a live/active virus which kills you and jump starts the dormant virus to be active.

I'm not saying that's medical science but I think that's the intended logic.
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I agree with this take. If it were simply a bacteria infection, we'd see more emphasis on sterilization after someone gets bit; things like rubbing alcohol would be gold.
 
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SWIL said:
I agree with this take. If it were simply a bacteria infection, we'd see more emphasis on sterilization after someone gets bit; things like rubbing alcohol would be gold.
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Anybody thrown out the idea of a micro parasitic organism that only generates at lower body temp( hence : human testing temp is 98.6 and a dead body's temp would drop allowing the parasite to take control of the host, and if it's already in your system then if you die of natural causes then the parasite can then take over? And that can explain the decrepit walkers with loss of limb and blood to remain active as long as it has control of the brain? Get it? Like tiny parasites working together to control the host ( what comes to mind is that movie "Big Hero 6" the boys tony robots that can come together as one unit and become anything, which are stolen and used for retaliation) I like this thread.
 
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"The rule is WHATEVER it is that causes the zombies, is something everyone already has. If you stub your toe, get an infection and die, you turn into a zombie, UNLESS your brain is damaged. If someone shoots you in the head and you die, you're dead. A zombie bite kills you because of infection, or blood loss, not because of the zombie "virus.""
—Robert Kirkman
 
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Coug said:
"The rule is WHATEVER it is that causes the zombies, is something everyone already has. If you stub your toe, get an infection and die, you turn into a zombie, UNLESS your brain is damaged. If someone shoots you in the head and you die, you're dead. A zombie bite kills you because of infection, or blood loss, not because of the zombie "virus.""
—Robert Kirkman
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Well, damn. From the man himself.

The blood loss part is plausible; the infection part is not. Most wound inflections take a minimum of 48 hours to take hold and become fatal.

In the show, it's portrayed as happening in a few hours.

Also, we've not seen anyone get slightly bit and shrug it off; which should happen given the above explanation.
 
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utvols88 said:
Like I said, I think the idea is that a walker has the virus at its active state while a living person has a dormant virus that is triggered by something with death. If a walker bites you, it introduces a live/active virus which kills you and jump starts the dormant virus to be active.

I'm not saying that's medical science but I think that's the intended logic.
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Gotcha. I missed the dormant part. The Shingles virus lives in the nerve cells waiting for the immune system to falter...then there is an outbreak.

Thanks! Varicella zoster may be just the missing ingredient for me to replicate the Walker virus...
 
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SWIL said:
Well, damn. From the man himself.

The blood loss part is plausible; the infection part is not. Most wound inflections take a minimum of 48 hours to take hold and become fatal.

In the show, it's portrayed as happening in a few hours.

Also, we've not seen anyone get slightly bit and shrug it off; which should happen given the above explanation.
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Maybe the Walker virus also suppresses the immune system therefore not really allowing the person to effectively fight the bacterial infection. (HIV works this way)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Maybe the Walker virus also suppresses the immune system therefore not really allowing the person to effectively fight the bacterial infection. (HIV works this way)
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That's possible - hadn't thought of that... so everyone in the walking dead has Zombie AIDS :)
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
Gotcha. I missed the dormant part. The Shingles virus lives in the nerve cells waiting for the immune system to falter...then there is an outbreak.

Thanks! Varicella zoster may be just the missing ingredient for me to replicate the Walker virus...
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Go get em Doc!
 
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