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the largest amount of fat that i would say is possible to lose in a week is around 1.5 lb. anything over that will be water weight, which can get dangerous if you dont keep good tabs on it
 
I think I'm going to the one in Newport, NC. Even closer to home and gives me another two weeks to make weight.

I don't blame ya one bit...good luck and let us know how ya do...

I am thinking of going to the Westside training system...I have a conundrum, do I switch to a proven way only 10 weeks out or do I go with what's got me here first then switch bc I will have more time to acclimate myself to it...
 
the largest amount of fat that i would say is possible to lose in a week is around 1.5 lb. anything over that will be water weight, which can get dangerous if you dont keep good tabs on it

Or muscle if you're not getting enough glutamine.
 
I don't blame ya one bit...good luck and let us know how ya do...

I am thinking of going to the Westside training system...I have a conundrum, do I switch to a proven way only 10 weeks out or do I go with what's got me here first then switch bc I will have more time to acclimate myself to it...

Idk how I feel about that system. I've been seeing steady gains doing bench press as my only chest work out for about a year now. I primarily do 3x8. But if I get stuck, I'll switch up to 5x5 for a bit.

But I rarely get stuck. Like last week I did 275, 285, 295. But I only got 7 on my last set. So when I benched again, I did 285, 290, 295. This time I got my 9 reps. So I increased both overall workload and my reps on the last set.
 
I hate cutting. I hate not seeing my numbers go up.

Amen. I was about to post this on the bodybuilding forum, but everyone who asks a question over there gets ripped without receiving a true answer. I'm new to dieting to gain lean muscle while losing fat. I'm going to put out a sample of my diet right here. I'm 5'11, 180 lbs, with I'd say 19-24% body fat.

Meal 1: 3 Egg whites, 1 whole egg, and 1/2 cup of quaker oats. 289 total cal
Meal 2: Protein Shake 38 g protein
Meal 3: Starkist Tuna on wheat rounds. 330 Cal total
Meal 4: Post Workout shake 38 g protein
Meal 5: Grilled Chicken/Fish with sweet potato/rice with green beans/ broccoli.

This is a rough diet. I can admit I need help choosing what to add and stuff to my diet because it's not very good. I know you should have 6 meals a day, but I don't have time it seems to fit 6 in. It seems very low in calories considering I should have 2000 calories in a day. I could really use you guys help, because I want to do this right and not waste my time. I appreciate all constructive responses. :hi:
 
Amen. I was about to post this on the bodybuilding forum, but everyone who asks a question over there gets ripped without receiving a true answer. I'm new to dieting to gain lean muscle while losing fat. I'm going to put out a sample of my diet right here. I'm 5'11, 180 lbs, with I'd say 19-24% body fat.

Meal 1: 3 Egg whites, 1 whole egg, and 1/2 cup of quaker oats. 289 total cal
Meal 2: Protein Shake 38 g protein
Meal 3: Starkist Tuna on wheat rounds. 330 Cal total
Meal 4: Post Workout shake 38 g protein
Meal 5: Grilled Chicken/Fish with sweet potato/rice with green beans/ broccoli.

This is a rough diet. I can admit I need help choosing what to add and stuff to my diet because it's not very good. I know you should have 6 meals a day, but I don't have time it seems to fit 6 in. It seems very low in calories considering I should have 2000 calories in a day. I could really use you guys help, because I want to do this right and not waste my time. I appreciate all constructive responses. :hi:

the 6 meal thing isnt really as important as some make it out to be. as long as you have a good overall breakdown, you will be fine.

How active are you? if you are active and lift weights a lot, 2000 isnt enough even if you are trying to stay lean
 
the 6 meal thing isnt really as important as some make it out to be. as long as you have a good overall breakdown, you will be fine.

How active are you? if you are active and lift weights a lot, 2000 isnt enough even if you are trying to stay lean

I'd say I'm pretty active. I workout 4 days in a row then take a day off then 4 more days then a day off and so on..

I guess my main question is, what foods and how much can I eat to cut down?

Either way, IIFYM calculator (IIFYM Calculator) says I need anywhere from 2000-2100 calories a day to "aggresively" cut down. So what can I eat in 3 meals to meat that requirement?
 
Amen. I was about to post this on the bodybuilding forum, but everyone who asks a question over there gets ripped without receiving a true answer. I'm new to dieting to gain lean muscle while losing fat. I'm going to put out a sample of my diet right here. I'm 5'11, 180 lbs, with I'd say 19-24% body fat.

Meal 1: 3 Egg whites, 1 whole egg, and 1/2 cup of quaker oats. 289 total cal
Meal 2: Protein Shake 38 g protein
Meal 3: Starkist Tuna on wheat rounds. 330 Cal total
Meal 4: Post Workout shake 38 g protein
Meal 5: Grilled Chicken/Fish with sweet potato/rice with green beans/ broccoli.

This is a rough diet. I can admit I need help choosing what to add and stuff to my diet because it's not very good. I know you should have 6 meals a day, but I don't have time it seems to fit 6 in. It seems very low in calories considering I should have 2000 calories in a day. I could really use you guys help, because I want to do this right and not waste my time. I appreciate all constructive responses. :hi:

You're gonna gain very little muscle on that diet & just 2000 cals. If you're 5'11" 180 with 20% bf it's hard to imagine you have much muscle to begin with & the plan you have will keep you there. If you figure out the path to gaining substantial muscle while burning fat you will be rich one day though...other than AAS or super genetics its tough.
 
You're gonna gain very little muscle on that diet & just 2000 cals. If you're 5'11" 180 with 20% bf it's hard to imagine you have much muscle to begin with & the plan you have will keep you there. If you figure out the path to gaining substantial muscle while burning fat you will be rich one day though...other than AAS or super genetics its tough.

So you're saying I shouldn't worry about cutting right now and work on bulking? Seriously, I'm open to all ideas.
 
I should state I just want to cut down to 175 then bulk. So I just want to lose some fat first.
 
So you're saying I shouldn't worry about cutting right now and work on bulking? Seriously, I'm open to all ideas.

If your 5'11" 180 I say to definitely bulk. If you lift hard & throw in some cardio you're not gonna just get all fat & pudgy. The diet you listed would be good for cutting but I just can't see any muscle gains on 2000 cals.
 
If your 5'11" 180 I say to definitely bulk. If you lift hard & throw in some cardio you're not gonna just get all fat & pudgy. The diet you listed would be good for cutting but I just can't see any muscle gains on 2000 cals.

Yeah I appreciate the opinion. That's why I came here. :)

I'll be the first to admit I'm not big by any means, I'm some what strong because I played high school football and we worked out every day, but that was mostly legs and chest, not really arms or shoulders or calves.
 
Yeah I appreciate the opinion. That's why I came here. :)

I'll be the first to admit I'm not big by any means, I'm some what strong because I played high school football and we worked out every day, but that was mostly legs and chest, not really arms or shoulders or calves.

What are you going for? Strength or size and shape? I wish I realized the difference when I was starting out.
 
My number one rule for shape and size is that it's not about moving weight, it's about controlling weight.
 
Shape is genetic. So is size & strength to an extent. All can change by working out but you can't shape a muscle to be a certain way.

Well, it seems like it's just semantics, but if you work out the right way then you will bring out the shape better than inferior methods.
 

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