the welfare box

[BigPapaVol]

As am I, but what about the welfare box?

don't know and don't care.

 

[BigPapaVol]

While there are some "generational" welfare receipients, there are just as many that are ashamed to be in that situation.

If those two numbers are even remotely even, the system should be thrown in the garbage yesterday.

 

[UT IE 95]

just wanna be on record as a big lover of the box.

Do you have some gox box socks?

 

[UT IE 95]

If those two numbers are even remotely even, the system should be thrown in the garbage yesterday.

You are correct. Those numbers are no where near close. I volunteer in a program that provides meals to the needy. There are plenty of people getting assistance from the government that are looking for a way out - they want to be independent for themselves and their families. I have yet to see someone quoting Maury Povich and critiquing bon-bons.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

While there are people that mooch on the system, I believe it's grossly over-exaggerated on the extent of the mooching. People on welfare are not living a care-free life of luxury.

Welfare is broken, and even one person getting a free ride that doesn't need it is too many. But this thread makes me think some people have a very skewed view of the welfare system.

While there are some "generational" welfare receipients, there are just as many that are ashamed to be in that situation.

well the concept of free money for nothing is absurd, get a job, i dont care where, be productive.

 

[BigPapaVol]

You are correct. Those numbers are no where near close. I volunteer in a program that provides meals to the needy. There are plenty of people getting assistance from the government that are looking for a way out - they want to be independent for themselves and their families. I have yet to see someone quoting Maury Povich and critiquing bon-bons.

I own some section 8 housing (which I'm trying to remove from the program, but I just can't get people out) and a trip through that joint or any gov't funded neighborhood will absolutely change your mind.

 

[UT IE 95]

I own some section 8 housing (which I'm trying to remove from the program, but I just can't get people out) and a trip through that joint or any gov't funded neighborhood will absolutely change your mind.

I live in Memphis. We have our fair share of government funded neighborhoods. But even here, the moochers are by far outnumbered by the legitimate causes.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I live in Memphis. We have our fair share of government funded neighborhoods. But even here, the moochers are by far outnumbered by the legitimate causes.

Little Rock is absolutely chock full of professional housing and welfare assistance recipients. Many 3rd and 4th generation. I can't imagine Memphis being that different.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

I live in Memphis. We have our fair share of government funded neighborhoods. But even here, the moochers are by far outnumbered by the legitimate causes.

what exactly is a legtimate clause? and people that have kids to just get the money is a pretty common case, trust me i have seen it quite a bit

 

[BigPapaVol]

what exactly is a legtimate clause? and people that have kids to just get the money is a pretty common case, trust me i have seen it quite a bit

come on. You know like I do that there are legitimate causes. Disabilities and long term injuries / illnesses should come to mind.

 

[UT IE 95]

Little Rock is absolutely chock full of professional housing and welfare assistance recipients. Many 3rd and 4th generation. I can't imagine Memphis being that different.

And that's the part that I speak of as being broken. No need in having generational receipients.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

come on. You know like I do that there are legitimate causes. Disabilities and long term injuries / illnesses should come to mind.

i know, i was going to see his what he had to say what he thought were legit clauses

 

[KB5252]

I live in Memphis. We have our fair share of government funded neighborhoods. But even here, the moochers are by far outnumbered by the legitimate causes.

I know that there are many legitimate cases of people stuck in government housing and not able to get out. I would say maybe half would fall under that category, however the other half may CLAIM that they want out but what do they DO to get themselves out? Much of the time it is nothing, for a variety of reasons but I would imagine many find it much easier to not take on responsibility for themselves when the government seems so eager to do that for them.

 

[KB5252]

come on. You know like I do that there are legitimate causes. Disabilities and long term injuries / illnesses should come to mind.

How many by percentage would you estimate fall into that category?

 

[UT IE 95]

How many by percentage would you estimate fall into that category?

My guess, nation-wide, is 75-80%.

 

[KB5252]

My guess, nation-wide, is 75-80%.

You would estimate that 75 to 80% of the nation is one welfare because of legitimate illness, disability, etc? I think the number is way too high I would think 55 to 60% is much more believable.

 

[DAVOL]

My guess, nation-wide, is 75-80%.

Dude you are gonna kill the Limbaugh lovers fantasy that all welfare cases are just lazy 2009 cadillac driving, 60 inch plasma screen tv watching, surf and turf eating mooches.

 

[GASOUTHERNVOL]

Dude you are gonna kill the Limbaugh lovers fantasy that all welfare cases are just lazy 2009 cadillac driving, 60 inch plasma screen tv watching, surf and turf eating mooches.

i personally love part of my paycheck to the unworthy

 

[KB5252]

Dude you are gonna kill the Limbaugh lovers fantasy that all welfare cases are just lazy 2009 cadillac driving, 60 inch plasma screen tv watching, surf and turf eating mooches.

There would probably only be about 3 to 5 of "those people"(Limbaugh lovers who actually believe that) on this board. You associating them with the rest of us is pretty sophomoric and says plenty about you, as well as them. Maybe you and they are not quite as different as you seem to think!

 

[UT IE 95]

Dude you are gonna kill the Limbaugh lovers fantasy that all welfare cases are just lazy 2009 cadillac driving, 60 inch plasma screen tv watching, surf and turf eating mooches.

Limbaugh is a drugged up idiot pandering to the simple-minded.

Reality has no place in the Limbaugh lover fantasy world.

 

[DAVOL]

i personally love part of my paycheck to the unworthy

and what % do you think that is maybe .0004% it just kills me to hear conservatives (including friends of mine) bitch about welfare constantly and yet did not hear much of a peep on this board when 11 billion in cash just went missing in Iraq.

 

[vols4sure]

You would estimate that 75 to 80% of the nation is one welfare because of legitimate illness, disability, etc? I think the number is way too high I would think 55 to 60% is much more believable.

I think the 75-80% may be correct if you count people on welfare that have made countless mistakes in their lives. In and out of jails, govt. rehab programs, etc. These are the people that really drain taxpayer money.

I believe in 2nd and 3rd chances, but at some point it is just not fair that we have to pay for helping these people.

 

[UT IE 95]

You would estimate that 75 to 80% of the nation is one welfare because of legitimate illness, disability, etc? I think the number is way too high I would think 55 to 60% is much more believable.

I just find it hard to believe there are more than 1 in 4 on welfare that don't have a legitimate reason. It wouldn't be first time I'm wrong mind you...

 

[KB5252]

Limbaugh is a drugged up idiot pandering to the simple-minded.

Reality has no place in the Limbaugh lover fantasy world.

His grasp of true conservatism is pretty solid, even if he does have his personal problems. But then again half the liberal Hollywood elite do as well, yet liberals hold them up as if they are shinning examples to the world. Everyone has their problems.

 

[DAVOL]

There would probably only be about 3 to 5 of "those people"(Limbaugh lovers who actually believe that) on this board. You associating them with the rest of us is pretty sophomoric and says plenty about you, as well as them. Maybe you and they are not quite as different as you seem to think!

Regan must have believed it cause that is how he started his 1980 pres campaign in philadelphia, MS raising hell about the "cadillac driving welfare queens".