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tim said:
Im straight. Why do we care where his weenie goes?
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I don't care anything about him. This doesn't affect me in any way, I just wanted to see if it would cause this thread to spin out of control into a huge argument.
 
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RockVol said:
I don't care anything about him. This doesn't affect me in any way, I just wanted to see if it would cause this thread to spin out of control into a huge argument.
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It will. The more mainstream homosexuality gets the more I get repulsed by it. Seems like they define who they are by what they like sexually. Really sad.

Edit: I should note I am repulsed by the fact that people define themself with their sexuality. Wgaf?
 
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tim said:
It will. The more mainstream homosexuality gets the more I get repulsed by it. Seems like they define who they are by what they like sexually. Really sad.

Edit: I should note I am repulsed by the fact that people define themself with their sexuality. Wgaf?
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Quite the broad brush there.
 
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It'll be nice when the media doesn't feel the need to blow it up every time someone comes out. I don't give an f if some athlete like the d or the v.
 
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Mark Swartz of Espn said a bar erupted in cheers when it was shown on tv. Bull ****. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. lol.

Goes to show the media will be ridiculous with this. It's sad.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
+1

Took a lot of nerve to say it. I agree though a lot of teams IMO will not want to deal with the media stuff to follow him now. Could cost him millions.
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Ya, and then glaad will throw the royalist of fits when he doesn't get drafted first round. The media storm that follows him will turn a lot of teams away. I doubt many players and teams care about being gay anymore, but you don't want the incessant media nonsense that's coming.
 
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tim said:
It will. The more mainstream homosexuality gets the more I get repulsed by it. Seems like they define who they are by what they like sexually. Really sad.

Edit: I should note I am repulsed by the fact that people define themself with their sexuality. Wgaf?
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Let me post what I posted in response to SDV on the NCAA forum about this same question:

Assuming you're not just joking, let me answer that question. We live in a society where you're considered heterosexual by default. It's not like you have to go around parading your heterosexuality (although many still do) to feel accepted or to fit in. For gays, their sexuality is obviously a fundamental part of their being, just as your heterosexuality is to you. Difference is, you don't live in a society where your heterosexuality is considered a problem. Of course it's not political for you. It doesn't have to be. But for gays on the other hand...
 
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I'm waiting for a prominent athlete to announce themselves as ex-gay and talk about going through reparative therapy and leaving the lifestyle behind.

Now that would be a story...
 
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volprof said:
Let me post what I posted in response to SDV on the NCAA forum about this same question:

Assuming you're not just joking, let me answer that question. We live in a society where you're considered heterosexual by default. It's not like you have to go around parading your heterosexuality (although many still do) to feel accepted or to fit in. For gays, their sexuality is obviously a fundamental part of their being, just as your heterosexuality is to you. Difference is, you don't live in a society where your heterosexuality is considered a problem. Of course it's not political for you. It doesn't have to be. But for gays on the other hand...
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Yep, pretty much covers it
 
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volprof said:
Let me post what I posted in response to SDV on the NCAA forum about this same question:

Assuming you're not just joking, let me answer that question. We live in a society where you're considered heterosexual by default. It's not like you have to go around parading your heterosexuality (although many still do) to feel accepted or to fit in. For gays, their sexuality is obviously a fundamental part of their being, just as your heterosexuality is to you. Difference is, you don't live in a society where your heterosexuality is considered a problem. Of course it's not political for you. It doesn't have to be. But for gays on the other hand...
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How is it a problem? You cannot, I repeat, CANNOT change peoples minds by changing policies. It simply doesnt matter and to those it does matter to its a waste of time trying to change their minds.
 
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RockVol said:
@SportsCenter: BREAKING: Missouri DE Michael Sam, SEC co-Defensive Player of the Year, says he is gay; could become first openly gay NFL player.
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I'm sure the NFL has a bunch of gay players making lots of money. I believe the key word here is "openly". Dude has some stones to come out before the draft because this could cost him big time. Great player too.
 
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volprof said:
Let me post what I posted in response to SDV on the NCAA forum about this same question:

Assuming you're not just joking, let me answer that question. We live in a society where you're considered heterosexual by default. It's not like you have to go around parading your heterosexuality (although many still do) to feel accepted or to fit in. For gays, their sexuality is obviously a fundamental part of their being, just as your heterosexuality is to you. Difference is, you don't live in a society where your heterosexuality is considered a problem. Of course it's not political for you. It doesn't have to be. But for gays on the other hand...
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I've heard this argument before. I don't think a society where everyone is homosexual by default would last very long.
 
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Or let me use an example. There's a scene in "The Aviator," where Katharine Hepburn's mother is complaining about people who make a big deal out of money. Howard Hughes responds by saying, "You don't care about money, because you've always had it."

Take sexuality and place into this conversation and you have your reason why it is indeed a big deal for gay people.
 
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tim said:
How is it a problem? You cannot, I repeat, CANNOT change peoples minds by changing policies. It simply doesnt matter and to those it does matter to its a waste of time trying to change their minds.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at.
 
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volprof said:
Or let me use an example. There's a scene in "The Aviator," where Katharine Hepburn's mother is complaining about people who make a big deal out of money. Howard Hughes responds by saying, "You don't care about money, because you've always had it."

Take sexuality and place into this conversation and you have your reason why it is indeed a big deal for gay people.
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Its not that I dont understand your explanation. I dont accept it. Sexuality is not what defines a person.
 
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vol2002 said:
I've heard this argument before. I don't think a society where everyone is homosexual by default would last very long.
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It's sad that you read that and turned "a society where homosexuality isn't a problem" into "a society where everyone is homosexual".
 
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tim said:
Its not that I dont understand your explanation. I dont accept it. Sexuality is not what defines a person.
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You're simply proving my point. Your heterosexuality doesn't "mean" that much to you, because it doesn't have to.
 
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I understand gay people want to let people know, but I don't care! Keep it to yourself, if you're gay, good for you, but I don't give a crap! I don't want to know about it. I believe it is wrong, but that is part of my religion. Just keep it to yourself!
 
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