There's not a penalty to harsh for PSU!

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#527
There are some that believe the death penalty would hurt the victims' chances of "appropriate" financial restitution as the football program provides a revenue stream that could be tapped.
 
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#529
vols4sure said:
No sh**. Not reporting child abuse in an attempt to protect the program directly contradicts many of the principles
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No it didn't. The football program got no quantifiable benefit from keeping Sandusky's actions secret, even if the idiots involved thought that it might.
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
There are some that believe the death penalty would hurt the victims' chances of "appropriate" financial restitution as the football program provides a revenue stream that could be tapped.
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No doubt... It's one of the most profitable athletics programs in the country.
 
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95 Vol Alum said:
There are some that believe the death penalty would hurt the victims' chances of "appropriate" financial restitution as the football program provides a revenue stream that could be tapped.
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And there are some that believe that there will be more 'victims' if the football program is allowed to continue to operate with reckless abandon.
 
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vols4sure said:
No sh**. Not reporting child abuse in an attempt to protect the program directly contradicts many of the principles
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A number of motives could be assigned: protect the program, protect the University, protect their employment, and protect their reputation(s) are the more apparent ones.
 
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vols-1 said:
If PSU has covered for Jerry since the 1970's ,then what's to say that they will not continue to cover up future abuse.
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Given who was involved, this line of logic only leads to a shutdown of the University not the football program. Imo.
 
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vols-1 said:
If PSU has covered for Jerry since the 1970's ,then what's to say that they will not continue to cover up future abuse.
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Given that the abuser is in prison, that's a pretty tough sell. For your logic to be right, a football program with too much power vested in the head coach will inevitably lead to the defensive coordinator becoming a child predator.
 
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#541
Doh!!!

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bamawriter said:
No it didn't. The football program got no quantifiable benefit from keeping Sandusky's actions secret, even if the idiots involved thought that it might.
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As I have said before, I think it's reasonable to conclude that Paterno might have been forced to resign in 2001, had Sandusky not been covered up, because along with that scandal, they were losing on the field, and Paterno was, well, old.

That's why I think it's reasonable to find a quantifiable benefit to covering it up - it helped JoePa keep his job and turn the program back into a winner; not a championship team, but a winner.

It's a fact that they covered it up to, in their eyes, protect the football program; I don't think it's too much of a stretch to find a quantifiable/competitive advantage. They may or may not have actually gotten an "advantage" by covering those horrible acts up, but that was their intention. They obviously thought the football program would be better off with the acts covered up, or they wouldn't have done it; either that or JoePa thought he'd be better off, and the others thought they'd be better off if they didn't cross JoePa.

My opinion regarding the debate at hand is a hybrid though...I think it is within the NCAA's authority to issue the death penalty to PSU. But, I do not think the NCAA should do it, provided that no one currently enrolled at PSU or employed at PSU had anything to do with the cover up, other than contributing to the power of a man that they thought was perfect. And, on that note, men like Bear Bryant and General Neyland might have similar power over UA and UT if they were still alive and coaching right now.

I agree with those who say that nobody involved in the cover up would be affected by the death penalty. ALL of the damage would be collateral.

That said, I would like to see the school take steps on its own, and the renaming of Paternoville by the students is a start. They should also remove the statue from university grounds. If they do that, the statue's removal will be symbolic of all that has happened; until we found out about the cover up, I think most would have agreed that it was a very well done and fitting statue. It's a shame that legacy was creamed, but he did it to himself. If the university decides to retain Paterno's name on the library but remove the statue, I would be ok with that. It's not as if Paterno did nothing positive for the school and community. PSU has to somehow, in a historical sense, accept the 'good' they received from Paterno along with the 'bad,' or else they may as well permanently close the university, because it's my understanding that the entire campus grew and developed around his football program.

If the school does nothing going forward but pay out court-required settlements; that is, they keep the statue, rename nothing else, and don't set up any type of fund for an appropriate charitable organization, then I think they'll sink themselves by isolating their school so much. If they use the football program to fight child abuse, I think people will view PSU in a very different light going forward.
 
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ukvols said:
If the school does nothing going forward but pay out court-required settlements; that is, they keep the statue, rename nothing else, and don't set up any type of fund for an appropriate charitable organization, then I think they'll sink themselves by isolating their school so much. If they use the football program to fight child abuse, I think people will view PSU in a very different light going forward.
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Very good and reasoned post. I agree with this point, and I've followed this thing since day 1 and I do understand the emotion behind people calling for the death penalty (its almost gotten laughable) but I just dont see that happening.
 
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