Things will look totally different Saturday

#27
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Losing Saturday won't happen. It will not happen. Not an option.
Just don't over look the snake Franklin, He's a great coach and I'm not sold on UT's schemes being all that great in the SEC.(Seems to predictable for good Defenses) I understand butch doesn't have his guys yet but I'm worried about this game!
 
#28
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Based on a little handicapping utilizing team recruiting and attrition the only team we have lost to this year which does not have a better mean HC number is Missouri. Vanderbilt and Kentucky are at the bottom of the SEC and rank 13 and 14 respectively. At the current time we are 6 in the SEC based on recruiting averages for the past for years. We are actually right where we should be based on my Handicapping. My rankings has us higher the SC and Missouri. We split with these teams. Base on the numbers Vanderbilt and Kentucky will be wins for us. I know changing coach's is ruff on a team and we certainly have had our share of across the board coaching changes. However based on the results of this season unless Butch gets out coached which I doubt or the team just gives up we should win out. JMHO

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Recruiting ranking over the last 4-5 years don't mean very much when over half of the best players are no longer on the team.
 
#29
#29
I hope so

The defense needs to stop touchdowns

Offense needs to score touchdowns

We need to reduce taxes while making the most with what we have and work to produce jobs to boost the economy. Also, we should strengthen the defense and take the offense when protecting our environment...geeez :lolabove:
 
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#31
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VOLS... are we really that worried about vandy. All the praise Vandy is getting is ridiculous. Jordan Mathews is an NFL player. Outside of the "scheme" what do they really have (besides a coach that looks exactly like a dog penis)? The Vols will kick the sh** out of Vandy on Sr night. Anybody know the last time we lost to Vandy on SR night? They have had good coaches before- Fulmer, Bobby Johnson, jerry denardo and woody woodenhoffer all had some level of success at other schools or the NFL... It is still just crappy ole stuck up , spoiled brat rich boy Vandy! They are going to get their ass stomped Saturday Night... just like it should be and just like it always has been. Dooley was a lame coach. don't be afraid of vandy. I will go take their lunch money and beat their ass. Vols have only lost 2 in a row to Vandy in 74-75 and Gen. Neyland first 2 yrs
 
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Recruiting ranking over the last 4-5 years don't mean very much when over half of the best players are no longer on the team.

Here...stop the madness.

This is a roster after the spring game allowing for all attrition but not counting the majority of 2013 class.

Do you know what changes for us in relation to our competition if you don't account for specific attrition(just using talent averages)?

Nothing.
 

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Depth, maybe at some positions. Team chemistry and will to win I don't agree with.

Perhaps not a will to win advantage for Vandy, but definitely a belief they can win IMHO. Their team is also a more mature and experienced team. Neither team is particularly talented relative to the best teams in the SEC.
 
#35
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If Worley was not injured and was starting this game, I would have much more confidence believing we could easily defeat the 'dores (particularly how he led the offense against the dawgs and 'cocks). Since Worley has been out due to injury, our offense has not seemed inspired or determined to "make every inch count".
With Dobbs at the helm,I am worried we may lose to Vandy. This is not because I don't appreciate his natural talent and potential. But the proof has been in the pudding exemplifying his marginal play, and the collapse of the offense that was finally beginning to come around. I understand Dobbs is a true freshman and he has only played against top teams, and our defense has regressed to it's last year's personality; however, the piss-poor performance cannot simply be justified by talent discrepancy nor attributed to coaching. The most critical change with this team that coincides with awful play we saw the last 3 weeks is he who is behind center.
It just seems we have lost the "the on the field" leadership at the level that is needed to inspire our Vols to compete.
All I can do now is "hope" we beat Vandy and that in and of itself is pathetic.
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You're right. They have lost only 2 games between the 3 of them and the loses were against LSU and USC jr.

Exactly. Although we beat SC (one of these two losses you speak of), our play the last three games has been overly unimpressive. What was the major change from the previous couple of games?

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#37
#37
Will to win will go to us. We were embarrased last year against Vandy. Also, we fighting for our bowl lives.

Vandy is already in a bowl game.....

U don't think Franklin and Vandy are highly motivated to beat us???

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I know I should feel confident, but I'm so sick about this game. I want it so bad, it's probably unhealthy. I'm not sure if any of you have read On Rocky Top, but I feel the same way Clay did when he puked before the game because he was so nervous. Forget Florida, forget Alabama, forget Georgia or Oregon. This is what's standing between us and the bowl game Tennessee desperately needs. This isn't just any game - they want to embarrass us. They want to come into our house, run up the score, deny OUR team and OUR seniors a bowl game, and stake their claim as Tennessee's team. The anticipation is hard to take, and I rarely ever get this wound up about games.

I think I need a drink.

Underrated post is underrated.

Y'all need to recognize this is the truth, we need to bring it as a fan, a team, and a VolNation come Saturday.

It's gonna be huge
 
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:) .no turnovers..tenn quarterback breakout game..vandy cbacks 5'11.tenn wide receivers croom and north 6'5.....defensive ends 260 lb. Have to run the ball..i think cameron sutton may get pick six early in game on pass in flat...will win if play like south carolina game.. Field position and defensive stops. And sacks. Vandy last in sec in giving up qb sacks...need off line to play their best game...temperatures falling into the 30s during the game..remember last time vandy won 2 straight..1926, 1927..calvin cooleridge president
 
#41
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For the last four or five games in a row, we have faced top 10 teams with mostly top 10 talent, maybe not Mizzou, however this Saturday we face the first team in a long time that we "should" beat. I think Saturday we will look like a completely different team. Just for the fact that we may actually have more talent than Vanderbilt. I see us winning this one by 10-17 points. It won't be easy but I do think we see more explosive plays more domination in the trenches and better QB play simply because of less talent of the opposing team. I hope I am right because a loss Saturday or even not looking better as a team than we have the last 6 weeks will be discouraging.

The 800 excuse line will be open and busy if not. I know what they will be. Do you?
 
#42
#42
Here...stop the madness.

This is a roster after the spring game allowing for all attrition but not counting the majority of 2013 class.

Do you know what changes for us in relation to our competition if you don't account for specific attrition(just using talent averages)?

Nothing.

So, having to start a true Freshman at QB does not affect how our offense performs against two top ten teams? It is not just the * rating of all the recruits. No one will win championships with a team who has to field true freshmen, red shirt freshmen, walkons, and Inexperience players at key position. Name me the players who will start for us Saturday who would start on UA, UGa, UF, UM, Au, and USC. You can rant all you want about star rating, but stars are only one part of rating the strength of a team or its ability to compete against teams with more experience and speed. Football is not a Xbox game.
 
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#43
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To add to this, under Dooley we still had more talent, but he couldn't motivate players to continue to fight for wins. I think Butch can do that.

Because they looked so motivated against Missouri, Bama, and Auburn. Our players have checked out mentally for the season. Don't get your hopes up. Plus we have far less talent this year. I just don't see it. They need to SHOW ME.
 
#44
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:) .no turnovers..tenn quarterback breakout game..vandy cbacks 5'11.tenn wide receivers croom and north 6'5.....defensive ends 260 lb. Have to run the ball..i think cameron sutton may get pick six early in game on pass in flat...will win if play like south carolina game.. Field position and defensive stops. And sacks. Vandy last in sec in giving up qb sacks...need off line to play their best game...temperatures falling into the 30s during the game..remember last time vandy won 2 straight..1926, 1927..calvin cooleridge president

Well it's about to happen again, under an even worse president's term.
 
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If Worley was not injured and was starting this game, I would have much more confidence believing we could easily defeat the 'dores (particularly how he led the offense against the dawgs and 'cocks). Since Worley has been out due to injury, our offense has not seemed inspired or determined to "make every inch count".
With Dobbs at the helm,I am worried we may lose to Vandy. This is not because I don't appreciate his natural talent and potential. But the proof has been in the pudding exemplifying his marginal play, and the collapse of the offense that was finally beginning to come around. I understand Dobbs is a true freshman and he has only played against top teams, and our defense has regressed to it's last year's personality; however, the piss-poor performance cannot simply be justified by talent discrepancy nor attributed to coaching. The most critical change with this team that coincides with awful play we saw the last 3 weeks is he who is behind center.
It just seems we have lost the "the on the field" leadership at the level that is needed to inspire our Vols to compete.
All I can do now is "hope" we beat Vandy and that in and of itself is pathetic.
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Completely agree. Dobbs hasn't even thrown a TD pass yet. This game probably won't turn out well for us. VU has the better defensive line, QB, WRs, and linebackers. I just don't see where we match up well.
 
#46
#46
The reason we lost some of those tough games earlier this year was NOT a difference in talent level but rather a difference in player execution. Wide receivers left WIDE OPEN in the end zone is a busted play, not a difference in talent. Illegal motion penalties are not a difference in talent but rather bonehead players failing to concentrate on the snap count.

I certainly want to see a W this week but it is not going to be a different game w/o UT playing much better than they have for the last month.

Huh? That's like saying the Cleveland Cavs lost to the Heat because of missed passes and turnovers...not sure what games you were watching (at least the last 3 anyway)
 
#47
#47
If the Green Bay Packers dressed in Vandy uni's, i would still be convinced we would win by 3 possessions
 
#48
#48
I think the talent differential is minimal with an advantage to Vandy in terms of depth, team chemistry, and the will to win. The Vols need to play like they did against SC and Georgia to have a chance. This, along with zero turnovers, limited penalties, and 3rd down defense are key in my eyes. We need to shore up the special teams coverage units and bust some big plays in the passing game as well. I expect we will rush for over 200 yards which should take pressure off the passing game and open up some passing lanes. Vandy's defense is solid and they don't make mistakes.



This!! We pretty much did do those things in the win against SC and the near win against GA. We did not do those things against Mizzou and the Barn; or even FL early on for that matter and we lost those. We were simply outmatched against Oregon and Bama and that's about all you can say about that.

The bottom line is that we are just not strong enough YET to overcome several turnovers and penalties each game. We also need depth and lots of SPEED on defense going forward. I believe CBJ has figured this out already.

We will win out if we can get back to mistake free football and have a renewed focus. We need every player to have their head in the game for 60 minutes.


GO VOLS!!!
 
#49
#49
If we lose Saturday the Kentucky game will not be an automatic win due to morale. This could still be a horrific season.
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