Think there is a anti SEC bias against the Vols, after Saturday think again.

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adam.vol said:
My theory on why there could be anti-SEC bias:

The other Power Conferences want every conference to be top heavy like the Big 10 so that they can justify neat, high profile matchups. I believe it scares the committee and other conferences that our 5th or 6th place teams could upset the top two teams of their conferences on any given day.

It’s also concerning to them that our unranked teams can claim wins over our teams who could potentially win it all. The SEC’s competitiveness throws a wrench into wanting to break up conferences in favor of a super conference, as there’s no fair way to distinguish who would be in and who should be left out.

What is a super conference, anyway? Is it 32 teams or 40 teams? 64 teams? (You get the idea) Can anyone really expect to take less than all 16 SEC schools, 18 Big 10 schools, 10 ACC schools, 6 Big 12 schools? Vanderbilt’s win over Alabama may solidify the need to keep things are they are in the SEC.
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One win in fifty years is hardly areaon to not change
 
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London Vol said:
There is a deeply perceived belief that there is a bias by the powers at SEC central office against Tennessee after many suspicious incidences over the years that have gone against the Orange and Whites, Well Saturday will show what has really been going on. Greg Sankey and his cohorts, actually there is only thing they really want and that is for the SEC to be at the summit of College Football (in the last 25 years 17 champions have come from the SEC). So to achieve this they will identify who has the best chance (Alabama, Georgia and sometimes LSU come to mind) and then "help" them in those moments that always seem to go in their favor.

Move forward to 2024, now with the extended Play Offs most people expected the "at large" places going 3 to both the SEC and BIG10 but the selection committee have thrown a knuckle ball by ranking wins over strength of schedule, so Indiana who have only beaten teams marginally stronger than high School teams and Boise St who could be one, are up for a playoff place (do you think Vegas would have them favorites against Alabama, Ole Miss, or quite frankly ANY SEC team, exactly?
So where are you today Mr Sankey? He must be in fear that If Tennessee lose against Vanderbilt and Georgia lose against Georgia Tech, then the second SEC team would have 3 losses and according the selection committee only 1 SEC would make the play offs.

So to prove there is no SEC bias against Tennessee watch this weekend because WE and Georgia are the ones who need to win and then the SEC have another "two chips in the big game" and to prove my point/suspicion, if the games gets close you remember this article especially when The Vols get a very favorable decision, the type that used to go against us.

Go Vols
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I like your premise, but I don't believe this has anything to do with teams, but theory is $$$$$$$$$$. Placing in the Northeast pulls millions into local economies. The only teams that might have SEC level talent is OSU and Oregon.

When you think conspiracy, think money..then the picture becomes clearer.

I don't believe (anymore) that college football is about the sport, it's about Home and Away, broadcast times, night game vs afternoon etc.. the trophies, individual awards, it's not about the players, it's about ticket prices, and retail sales.

Jmo
 
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loservol said:
When have the Vols ever gotten a favorable call from the refs?
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Got away with blatant PI on Ryan Williams in the Bama game. Also, an obvious offsides on Pearce. Bama got away with obvious holding in the end zone that should’ve been a safety. There were bad calls both ways in that game.

We’ve gotten some calls this year. It’s disingenuous to pretend we haven’t gotten any.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
Got away with blatant PI on Ryan Williams in the Bama game. Also, an obvious offsides on Pearce. Bama got away with obvious holding in the end zone that should’ve been a safety. There were bad calls both ways in that game.

We’ve gotten some calls this year. It’s disingenuous to pretend we haven’t gotten any.
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You are absolutely right. Some need to let it go. Can't change it. It is obvious at times and the GA game this year we didn't have the best crew.
So officials are bad and we have proven that point year after year. No fix in sight. LSU -USCe game this year really bad.
It is part of the SEC offices and partially that sees it like they do in order to keep the clamor of the SEC in the top 5.
You are never going to get a clean game called in the SEC. The TX-GA game is just another example of a need to clean it up.
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
well, that's by definition, a big conspiracy theory, for sure. It would have to involve hundreds of people, right? How do you reckon it works, this scheme that you say "is done thru officiating"? What's your theory of the case, as they say?
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When Pruitt took played AL in Tusc. he commented after the game how Vols drove the ball downfield just fine then when they got into the red zone all of a sudden the holding penalties started. This is not the first time either. Take that however you want.
 
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OrangeBeachVol said:
When Pruitt took played AL in Tusc. he commented after the game how Vols drove the ball downfield just fine then when they got into the red zone all of a sudden the holding penalties started. This is not the first time either. Take that however you want.
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I take that as he is a very limited man, IQ wise, and were it not for college football he would be a gym teacher somewhere.
 
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farmdogvol said:
So what was the blown call on Wiiliams being covered when the replay should he obviously wasn't, about? Deboer deservedly blew a gasket over that terrible call. Probably didn't make a whole lot of difference, but refs blew it badly.
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I laughed because those are the kind of flags UT gets, and now Bama is getting them.

I laughed, and laughed, and laughed.
 
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So, by this rationale, does UGA get favorable whistles against Texas in the SECCG, leaving the 3 top SEC squads at 2 losses?
 
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Power_Sweep_Vol said:
It would have to have been going on for many years and involve huge numbers of officials...there is not one bit of evidence that anything like this has ever happened. Just wild speculation that makes no sense. Believe things for which you have tangible evidence.
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No speculation is wild when it comes to refs. They do not have to answer to the public like players and coaches do. Too many fishy calls that could easily be overturned and are not.
 
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VolBricks said:
My buddy : "refs don't change the outcomes of games"
Me: "Gaffney did not catch that pass" and "Wright scored that TD against Purdue in the Music City Bowl"
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If we’re being fair there was a series of events that happened after we missed an extra point vs Florida that lead to us winning a short time later by FG. We did make a long FG but without some questionable officiating we don’t get that shot.

The refs are not biased (for the most part) they’re just really bad at their jobs in the SEC (for the most part)
It happens way more than it should.
 
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Victim mentality is strong in this bunch. Refs suck. They make bad calls every game. Every team thinks they got the bad end of it. It’s that simple.

in case you guys missed the last 20 years, we didn’t need any help from refs, or anyone to achieve misery. We were great at doing it on our own.
 
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C-south said:
Can the ground cause a fumble?
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Go back and rewatch the game and that play. Was he down when the ball touched the Ground? It could have been a make up call for the previous blotched call. Who really cares.

In General, the SEC Officiating is not consistent and we come out on the short end of the stick.

Alabama game as Alabama was legitimately flagged in our game this year was unusual. That was because of coaching changes, new system changes and because Saban was not on the sidelines.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Go back and rewatch the game and that play. Was he down when the ball touched the Ground? It could have been a make up call for the previous blotched call. Who really cares.

In General, the SEC Officiating is not consistent and we come out on the short end of the stick.

Alabama game as Alabama was legitimately flagged in our game this year was unusual. That was because of coaching changes, new system changes and because Saban was not on the sidelines.
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1998..they used potatoes for cameras. Can you really tell anymore?
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Go back and rewatch the game and that play. Was he down when the ball touched the Ground? It could have been a make up call for the previous blotched call. Who really cares.

In General, the SEC Officiating is not consistent and we come out on the short end of the stick.

Alabama game as Alabama was legitimately flagged in our game this year was unusual. That was because of coaching changes, new system changes and because Saban was not on the sidelines.
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I never thought about until you brought it up. Isn’t the rule that the ground can’t cause a fumble? This isn’t the NFL where you have to be touched down. When he put his hand down with the ball in it and he lost it when it hit the ground could it be ruled to have been down there since the ground can’t cause a fumble? ? In today’s age of replay and replay “assistance” I’m not sure if we get that ball.
 
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I’d imagine after last week, sankey probably told the refs “if you call it, it better be obvious”.
 
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C-south said:
I never thought about until you brought it up. Isn’t the rule that the ground can’t cause a fumble? This isn’t the NFL where you have to be touched down. When he put his hand down with the ball in it and he lost it when it hit the ground could it be ruled to have been down there since the ground can’t cause a fumble? ? In today’s age of replay and replay “assistance” I’m not sure if we get that ball.
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He was using the ball to gain his balance. Hand on the ground is not considered down. The ground did not cause the fumble because he used it steady himself. No knees elbow or hips on the ground when he control of the ground as he was trying to regather his composure. Yes, it could have been a make-up call because of the incorrect call on the punt, but I don't think so.

My opinion is simple, we had a unbelievable DL that answered the bell with a push causing Stoener to trip over his OL losing his balance. Stoener used the football in an attempt to regain his balance and lost the ball. Never fell on the ground until after the ball was freed up. The DL made the mess happen and got rewarded. This was a team of destiny not going to be denied. They came through on a critical weekend of which two contenders were eliminated.


Video evidence shows fumble.

 
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