This CBS Sports article says SEC attendence is lagging

#51
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Burger said:
You're losing money unless you move up the prices of the other seats. You make more money selling to more fans. I don't think we should have a problem selling out if we made the ticket more affordable. Neyland has never had a problem selling itself out in the past. Nothing beats the game day experience, and I've never been.
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Imagine a Neyland with ultra-premium seating on the sidelines, stadium seating in the end-zone with the exception of the student section and the band, the current stadium seating that exists in the north endzone, two Tennessee Terraces on the east and west side, the east and west club and, of course the sky boxes. This leaves only the upper deck of the south endzone which you could leave as bleacher seating. If what you say is right then, in theory, the prices of those bleacher endzone seats could also go up because of more natural demand...

Now, I'm not arguing if this is right or wrong, all I'm saying is that this is where the entertainment product is heading. You'd still have the whole gameday experience just with a few less seats and *probably* a decent amount more revenue.

I never thought I'd be in favor of wholly blocking NS with stadium seating but I think it will be hard to resist given where technology and entertainment are headed.
 
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vol94 said:
I personally prefer the "game environment" but usually take my ten yr old son as he loves the environment too.
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I have a 10 year old also. Every time I hear or see something at the stadium that I wish he didn't, I think back to the 1982 Tennessee/Alabama game where we won and a 10 year old GAVol observed mass drunkeness for the first time. :)
 
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C1Vol1 said:
Imagine a Neyland with ultra-premium seating on the sidelines, stadium seating in the end-zone with the exception of the student section and the band, the current stadium seating that exists in the north endzone, two Tennessee Terraces on the east and west side, the east and west club and, of course the sky boxes. This leaves only the upper deck of the south endzone which you could leave as bleacher seating. If what you say is right then, in theory, the prices of those bleacher endzone seats could also go up because of more natural demand...

Now, I'm not arguing if this is right or wrong, all I'm saying is that this is where the entertainment product is heading. You'd still have the whole gameday experience just with a few less seats and *probably* a decent amount more revenue.

I never thought I'd be in favor of wholly blocking NS with stadium seating but I think it will be hard to resist given where technology and entertainment are headed.
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The thing is, if they don't go that route, they cease to cater to their donors. The fact is, 50+ year olds with loads of cash don't really care too much for the sardine treatment with no chairbacks.
 
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C1Vol1 said:
Imagine a Neyland with ultra-premium seating on the sidelines, stadium seating in the end-zone with the exception of the student section and the band, the current stadium seating that exists in the north endzone, two Tennessee Terraces on the east and west side, the east and west club and, of course the sky boxes. This leaves only the upper deck of the south endzone which you could leave as bleacher seating. If what you say is right then, in theory, the prices of those bleacher endzone seats could also go up because of more natural demand...

Now, I'm not arguing if this is right or wrong, all I'm saying is that this is where the entertainment product is heading. You'd still have the whole gameday experience just with a few less seats and *probably* a decent amount more revenue.

I never thought I'd be in favor of wholly blocking NS with stadium seating but I think it will be hard to resist given where technology and entertainment are headed.
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I hate the way the terrace looks, but I understand your point.

Have you seen what Baylor is doing with the student section in their new stadium. SRO, in yellow. Interesting.

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GAVol said:
Neat idea.
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That stadium in only 50K or so.

If you were 10 at the '82 Bama game then we're the same age. I agree with you assessments of being crammed in like sardines.

If you've ever been to Raymond James Stadium in Tampa it has about the same number of rows as Neyland. Granted it isn't enclosed but if it was, it would hold around 100K but the footprint is much bigger as it is much more spread out and the upper deck is separated by skyboxes.

The fact that Neyland holds 100K is amazing considering the relative small footprint. That's what makes it so loud when it's rocking. But to your point, it isn't very comfortable for the fans.
 
#57
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GAVol said:
Doesn't sound like you're that enthusiastic about going to games in the first place (and there's nothing wrong with that).
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You could say that. When you have a few kids, every dollar is important. Hard to blow money on a ball game when it cost a fortune just to put kids thru school. And my kids are not even in high school yet.
 
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C1Vol1 said:
What Texas A&M is doing is absolutely stupid--they are basically trying to piss in the face of Texas University but it is poor decision in the long run.
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Yes. Sure, in the unlikely event that they go on a roll like Alabama is on, it will look great. But if they revert to their mediocre norm, which is more likely, they'll have plenty of empty seats, like we do now.
 
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cbbowlingmd said:
Hmmmmm. Let me see. 61" HD (crap, I'm already sounding like babyavi) & a wife who will do the same thing but I still go to the games - the atmosphere is just better (I can't explain why; it just is for me). Granted I'm a 5 minute drive by boat and have the luxury of skipping all the traffic before and after the game.

Come up for a game this year, fade. You guys can stay with us and we'll boat to the game. It's on me.
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If I can get up there, you are absolutely on. We'd have a great time. I'll keep you posted.....:good!:
 
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I stopped going last year after 33 years of attending several games a year (and almost every game the last 10 years with season tickets) despite a 450mi drive each way. The main reason was the increase in volume of comercial shipping traffic on the 350 miles of I-81. It became too stressful dealing with Mario Andretti operating an 18-wheeler and too much risk of traffic jams and detours. Honestly, I think the team performance helped make that decision easier. I didn't feel like I was really missing anything.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Yes. Sure, in the unlikely event that they go on a roll like Alabama is on, it will look great. But if they revert to their mediocre norm, which is more likely, they'll have plenty of empty seats, like we do now.
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They may have mediocre years, but they will be a force to be reckoned with more often than not.

And I respectfully disagree with the poster who claims it's a dumb move. Filling up 102,500 seats in a state with approximately 27 million people and growing while also being a football crazed state will be easier than it is for us.
 
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#63
Maybe Tennessee should follow the lead of UGA and cut out about 2000 student tix per game. A lot of these seats are across sections AA-FF which have great sight lines even from an upper deck vantage point. They could price these seats for $10-20 per seat more than the seats in the upper deck corners and end-zones. They could maybe use this additional profit to help offset and lower the price paid for the corners and end zone seats. If, for instance, Tennessee received 90 per ticket for the AA-FF seats for a premium SEC game, it would receive $150,000 in additional revenue for those 2000 seats ($90/ticket minus 15/student ticket = $75 additional profit opportunity per seat.)
 
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#64
I think some very good points have been made here. Especially those about subjecting children to bad conduct and some of the outrageous prices. However, I can't agree with opinions that watching at home is a better experience. When you figure out how I can watch the Vol Walk, the Pride of the Southland do the salute to the hill, the pregame, the Vols running through the T, and then feel the thunder that rains down from the heavens when we make a big play in a big game from the comfort of my living room then we'll talk about it.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think it's a problem that winning will completely solve.
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TV, NASCAR, other sports, expenses..........all of these add up to the detriment of CFB. All programs better get used to it. Look at what's happened to golf. People are changing habits and, thus, the world is changing. :hi:
 
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no surprise---even in a bad economy, schools keep jacking up prices, adding more creampuffs to the schedule, playing games at night, noon, etc. --- fans are staying away. they've had enough.
 
#67
#67
Two words: "Remote Control" (or "Clicker" as we say in my house).

I should also mention that the 4,000+ mile commute is a drag...
 
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#71
Did anyone watch the Indy 500 or the Coca Cola 600 on Sunday? Those events used to be packed. Those were the 2 most attended sporting events in the US each year and they happened on the same day.

I used to go to the Coca Cola 600 every year, from about '90 until '98 or so. I saw the grandstands in Charlotte extend into and around turns 1 & 2 and also around 4. Now, those seats have banners or sit empty.

It's just a sign of the times.
 
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#73
Tennessee and Auburn sucking didn't help attendance last year. Two large venues with empty seats.
 
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thebjd said:
Tennessee and Auburn sucking didn't help attendance last year. Two large venues with empty seats.
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I've been to 3 UGA games the past two years. The number of empty seats even in a place like Athens is a little shocking. Last year for UGA/Miss State, I bet there were 5-7,000 empty seats. I know it's not a big game, but we're still talking a conference game for a team in the national title hunt.
 
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GAVol said:
I've been to 3 UGA games the past two years. The number of empty seats even in a place like Athens is a little shocking. Last year for UGA/Miss State, I bet there were 5-7,000 empty seats. I know it's not a big game, but we're still talking a conference game for a team in the national title hunt.
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Getting in and out of Athens is a nightmare. I have never been to a UGA game outside of UT being the opponent. Is that typical attendance when lower teir SEC schools visit Athens of late?
 
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