This fake injury crap is unbearable.

[fossilfiction]

We don't do it after every extra point but it was common last year and some the first few games this year. Usually happens when we have a quick scoring drive to give our D some extra rest before taking the field next possession. We haven't been scoring as much or as quickly last few games is my guess why it's been less frequent. I didn't notice any after extra points this game but I might have missed them.

Thanks bud. I wasn't sure if that was still happening or not. Makes sense to see it reduced.

 

[sami]

So using the example of the Bama incident, Coach throws 3rd string player on field to flop. 3rd string player sits out using your simple and logical penalty. Tell me how that penalizes anyone.

@JCHateSteve beat me to it.

 

[Visidog]

I like the sit the series rule but would add that you could burn a timeout to get them back.

This could work… if you have a timeout to spare. But I really don’t like the idea of forcing players to the sidelines for extended times when they have legitimate reasons for stopping play to get checked out or treated.

I’m intrigued by the idea of injury timeouts that some others have floated.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

if play has to be stopped for a player injury, the player should be required to go to the locker room and be given a thorough exam before being allowed to come back in to the game. im talking rubber gloves, going in deep, thorough

Locker room, not the sideline tent.

 

[MHS Rebel]

So using the example of the Bama incident, Coach throws 3rd string player on field to flop. 3rd string player sits out using your simple and logical penalty. Tell me how that penalizes anyone.

If a team is on a roll, why would the opposing team put a 3rd stringer out there for a play just to flop on the next? What if team 1 scores on the single play that the rookie is in? Are you implying the 3rd stringer goes in an "immediately" flops before a single play is run? If the offense is going fast, there is no time to substitute even one player and get him in position. That's what Bama got flagged for.

 

[JCHateSteve]

This ^^^. They will never in the name of safety just implement the rest of series because if a player gets shaken up he should come off and be checked. Here is what I said in another thread in the past week and I think it would be a similar policy to a basketball injury that gives coaches a choice:

Hurt players need to go off for rest of series whether obvious flop or not. Allow coaches to use their timeout to get them back in just like basketball. I would also be ok to give them two injury timeouts a half that could only be used to reinsert players before series is over but the injury timeout does not stop play. Player has to go off, he can be checked out and if he is good to go then coach can use his injury timeout to reinsert him. The injury timeout just allows the reinsert. Once they have the injury timeouts, you have player sit the series or use your regular timeouts. I would also be in favor of no players can substitute on either side during injury timeout

The above allows for safety of players, stops flopping or coaches lose timeouts. Win win.

Huh.......
It's a little complicated. But, that could work.

 

[AdoptedVOL]

If a team is on a roll, why would the opposing team put a 3rd stringer out there for a play just to flop on the next? What if team 1 scores on the single play that the rookie is in? Are you implying the 3rd stringer goes in an "immediately" flops before a single play is run? If the offense is going fast, there is no time to substitute even one player and get him in position. That's what Bama got flagged for.

I had that wrong and was corrected above. BAMA was penalized as I understand for bad substitution when the coach shoved the player on the field who then faked an injury.

 

[VOLtaism]

Almost as bad as those fools flopping in soccer. Something needs to be done about it, not sure of what that answer is. Possibly needing to sit out longer than 1 play? Not sure an entire quarter is the answer, but it needs to be longer than one play for certain. You can't hang with an up-tempo offense, then get a new DC.
LFG Big Orange, get those cigars ready and beat the hell out of Alabummer!

For the players safety, the league should rule that any player that goes down must be transported to the injury tent to be inspected by staff for a minimum or 30 minutes. This makes sure the players that are actually injured do not re-enter the game prematurely.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

I had that wrong and was corrected above. BAMA was penalized as I understand for bad substitution when the coach shoved the player on the field who then faked an injury.

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The explanation I heard was they got illegal substitution because a player cannot go off and back on.

The Bama sister lover went off and then returned to field which is illegal substitution.

It had nothing to do with injury or 12 men.

 

[SockeyeVol]

Ive seen all kinds of good ideas proposed since the Ole Miss game a couple years ago. Rather than overthink it, maybe the opposing coach just submits a video like the Alabama player, and the SEC reviews it and suspends the coach for 1 game for "conduct detrimental to the integrity of the game."

 

[Dadof2Vols]

Ive seen all kinds of good ideas proposed since the Ole Miss game a couple years ago. Rather than overthink it, maybe the opposing coach just submits a video like the Alabama player, and the SEC reviews it and suspends the coach for 1 game for "conduct detrimental to the integrity of the game."

Yeap this could work, Birmingham is always consistent.

 

[onevol74]

I guess we should not hold our breath waiting for the SEC office to make a comment on this.

 

[SockeyeVol]

Yeap this could work, Birmingham is always consistent.

Blue font aside, this is only implemented if/when the league decides it wants to fix the problem.

And it avoids the appearance of asking the refs to second guess injuries in real time.

 

[Mccage]

The explanation I heard was they got illegal substitution because a player cannot go off and back on.

The Bama sister lover went off and then returned to field which is illegal substitution.

It had nothing to do with injury or 12 men.
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