this is a must read -- great post to expand your thinking

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jakez4ut said:
1. the first thing you've said i agre with.
2. it was your word choice...not mine, and in this case it did matter...there is no arguement over who is elligible, there is though an arguement on who could be considered more deserving. that's the difference. if you don't want to debate the deserving aspect, you had the opportunity to squelch that by simply stating that the system doesn't allow for it, so it's not an issue. that isn't what your question asked or stated. it asked who was more deserving. and there are teams that are more deserving. So don't ask that question, and use the eligibility rules as your defense of why they aren't deserving. stating such, really just refutes your original point, as there is no other reason for ND to be in o/t than that rule.
3. SEC "homer love" has nothing to do with the opinion that giving credit to a team for losing is ridiculous, just because of who they lost to? it still makes no sense to me, and i beileve GAVol, Hat and myself, along with others, are still perplexed as to how you can, in the same breath say Auburn beat better quality teams than ND, but since ND got waxed by Mich and USC, that in some way makes their season better? that still makes no sense to me. who did ND beat to garner such respect? is all the respect you show them simply based on the fact that USC and Mich are simply on the schedule, regardless of outcome???? If that's the case, why play the games? just line up a schedule with a bunch of big boys each year and compare...who ever has the better schedule wins...no need to play the games...because you simply have them on the schedule??? can i assume then that Vandy gets as much or more credit for losing to michigan, but by not such a great margin as ND dont' forget, Vandy also only lost to FL by a TD, Vandy could, by your logic, based on who they lost to, be as "deserving" as anyone??? i doubt it. it's a ridiculous argument.
4. as for your opposing viewpoint debate....it's the same for me. I oppose your view point, so why don't you "expand your horizions" and take your own advice.

not everyone is going to agree with you when post a topic. so just don't get on a high horse when someone calls you out on something, like we're all doing some great injustice by saying this is a ridiculous standpoint to take regarding an issue.
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1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Agree
4. Agree
 
#130
#130
njuneardave said:
so many posts to address:

1) if ND had UT's schedule, ND would not be considered for a bowl at all... they would have 4 losses, minimum... but they didn't have our schedule.

2) i'm sorry that i didn't mention "elligible" on my first post. i think you are reading too much into my words. im not going to argue that we deserve a BCS bowl... b/c we are not elligible for one. why would you argue that an inellgible team deserves a BCS over an elligible team? if you want to get hung up on syntax and verbage, jake, be my guest.

3) auburn got humiliated by two teams (one unranked) at home. it depends on how you look at "deserving"... and to me, auburn is very inconsistent. maybe if tuberville focused more on football and less on whining, auburn would be more consistent. the point that i am making is simply this: auburn lost to unranked Georgia, at home, by a humiliating margin, and that eliminates them in my mind. i dont have an SEC homer love, so i dont lobby for more SEC teams in the BCS.

4) so, because i stand up for a team that is not the Vols, i am automatically a notre dame fan? get real guys. so i dont lobby for Auburn (an inelligible team in the first place) to get a BCS bowl.... this consequently asserts me as a domer? no. its called an opposing viewpoint. you guys jump to ridiculous conclusions that anyone who sympathizes with another team is obviously a fan of the other team. i tried to post a blog from another fan from another team b/c i thought it was an interesting read. i am not so shamelessly biased to argue against any team that is not in the SEC. auburn doesn't deserve the BCS over ND -- im not a domer -- i dont think a team that gets demolished by an unranked team deserves a BCS bowl.

5) if i post an article from a USC Trojan blog that sympathizes with them, am I a USC fan, too? if i say that USC is better than UF, am I a trojan fan? give me a break... it is an oppinion. how many times do i have to reiterate that stating that one team is better than another in no way makes you a fan of the one team. i think Michigan is better than UF. I'm not a wolverine fan, and I didnt want a rematch NC game, but I think UM is better. put down your guns and simply read what im writing. Of the elligible teams for a BCS bowl, none deserve it more than ND. that is my oppinion whether you guys agree or not -- but i dont think rutgers, wvu, or vatech deserve it more.
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If you want everyone to agree with you go post this ND crap on a ND message board, you can all join hands and sing praises to the mighty golden domers. If you want lively debate well you found the right place.
 
#131
#131
volmanjr said:
If you want everyone to agree with you go post this ND crap on a ND message board, you can all join hands and sing praises to the mighty golden domers. If you want lively debate well you found the right place.
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that's putting it mildly.......:p
 
#132
#132
njuneardave said:
Narrow-minded is refusing to listen to any points that someone who disagrees with you is trying to make:


SOS ratings:

Notre Dame = 19
Arkansas = 41
Texas = 47
WVU = 42
Wisconsin = 84!
Rutgers = 50
VaTech = 66
Boise = 100
Auburn = 31
Tennessee = 11

Tell me what I am missing.... how am I an Irish fan for stating the obvious? How am I an Irish fan for disagreeing with the media? I like Brady Quinn. I like a good kid that is smart and plays good ball. He reminds me of Manning. Nothing wrong with that.
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Dude you have been on this boards for what like 2 weeks, their are plenty of "COLLEGE FOOTBALL FANS" here, but just bc we dont agree with some guy and crying about ND doesnt mean we are biast. If you look at what the dude wroe you wil see that Quinn also lost in votes to the MID-ATLANTIC,(where most irish fans are from) ND beat 0 teams this year and 0 teams last year,unless you want to count Tennessee and Michigans DOWN YEAR, (Vols-5-6)(UofM6-5). But yet they still get a BCS bowl, come on dude. And for your boy brady, i would hope a former NFL off. coord. would get him going, i think weiss could prob make me into something(unless we were playing a top 25 team). Then this guy goes onto say he was 1 dropped pass away from over 50% wow does quinn want a cookie. I could throw for 300 yards and pass for under 50%. Dude take that non-sense back to the ND forum. I LOVE COLLEGE football, and so does everyone else on this forum. Maybe if you would stick around a little longer you will understand that!
 
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#136
#136
whoa, so this is why ppl hate him. i agree w/ his viewpoints (but i may be a bit biased), but im not going to fight a lost cause. obviously fans for teams other than ND will not agree with a strongly biased ND viewpoint.... it's futile to fight it. oh well, that was a good read... nothing like some high drama in the afternoon
 
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#137
domer said:
whoa, so this is why ppl hate him. i agree w/ his viewpoints (but i may be a bit biased), but im not going to fight a lost cause. obviously fans for teams other than ND will not agree with a strongly biased ND viewpoint.... it's futile to fight it. oh well, that was a good read... nothing like some high drama in the afternoon
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honesty is the best policy...it doesn't make you right mind you......:)
that guy was just an idiot.
 
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#139
Aaaaand to put away the rumor...

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Greetings guys, long time listener, first time caller. njuneardave, does this sound familiar:

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You're a class act pal. :thumbsup:
 
#140
#140
Great read guys, wish I'd have just skipped to the end and seen what I've suspected for awhile come true. Great detective work. :)

Any credibility as a CF fan went out the door once you start saying quality losses are better than quality wins. That's the talk of a crazy man!!
 
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