This isn't Just About Abortion

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i'm not arguing it's anything new, but it's pissing our money away during what he has been calling a crisis for the past two months.

It's ideological garbage that is an utter waste of money.
 
#5
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is what kills me is that these people that are so adamently pro choice are hardcore against the death penalty.... i still havent heard a good explanation for that
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
i'm pro life, but for the death penalty.
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that makes sense, baby did nothing wrong,,,, max "the axe" killed some folks and molested a kid, deserves to die. however some of these pro-aportion people are the same ones fighting for max's life,
 
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Vol Mania 21 said:
i'm pro life, but for the death penalty.
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About the death penalty; I'm pro choice....choose the gas chamber or lethal injection.

Abortion is the most senseless of all, let the babies live...they are the most innocent, yet killed out of convenience in most cases.

If someone were to film via MRI or whatever an abortion and people actually faced up to what was going on....it'd be like Eisenhower forcing the German citizens to go an view the death camps to face the truth!
 
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GASOUTHERNVOL said:
is what kills me is that these people that are so adamently pro choice are hardcore against the death penalty.... i still havent heard a good explanation for that
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Well, I am pro choice and I favor the death penalty. Edit: I do, however, agree with BPV's stance on using federal funds to provide or promote them.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I don't care and favor the death penalty, because I believe it to be the cheaper option.
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I agree. I am enough of a bleeding heart that I would like there to be some compelling evidence that they were offing the right person.

There have been a lot of DNA reversals here in the DFW area recently.
 
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vader said:
I agree. I am enough of a bleeding heart that I would like there to be some compelling evidence that they were offing the right person.

There have been a lot of DNA reversals here in the DFW area recently.
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And I appreciate the point. Unanimous vote would seem to wipe away any doubt, but the jury can only use what's allowed in their room and there is no rule that stupid people can't be jurors.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
And I appreciate the point. Unanimous vote would seem to wipe away any doubt, but the jury can only use what's allowed in their room and there is no rule that stupid people can't be jurors.
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A lot of the time, it appears the inverse rule is enforced.
 
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I am pro-life and pro death penalty. However, in saying that, I feel like there is more important things going on right now. He needs to worry about the economy and this country safe. And I don't believe that we should have the pay for this.
 
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I really don't understand this at all.....

The arguement I hear used all the time is "well if a woman's raped by a raving lunatic and gets pregnant then why should she be forced to have a baby?"

Isn't that about the same thing as asking "if I walk down the street and I'm struck by lightening, can't I sue God?" Odds seem similar...

I mean wake up people, there's dumb in our midst and you're drinking the Kook-Aid.

Where in the flying blue he(( has personal responsibility gone? If you have sex with a woman and get her pregnant, guess what? Hoss, you got yourself a baby that you are half resonsible for at least until it turns 18. Same goes for the woman IMO.

Waking up one morning 2 months later and going to have a baby ripped out and killed has got to be the most utterly sick concept I can think of. Yet, it's perfectly ok? What?!?!?

Now I also hear the "it's the woman's body" thing quite a bit. Yes, it is the woman's body...great observation Queen from the land of obvious....but there's two lives in that body....not one.
 
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What gets me is the "Pro Choice" people seem to be actually "pro abortion" rather than pushing choices in which the baby lives. Why don't they push adoption like they do abortion? Isn't that a choice? Here's a thought, how about choosing to keep your pants on. Now if that choice is taken away by force, coercion, etc, then there should be other options. Do the crime, do the time. If you don't want to raise the child, somebody else does. And the death penalty is far too lenient. If you kill somebody, you should die the same way. And screw this being on death row for 10-20 years. One year. If you can't get your conviction overturned or at least a new trial, sucks for you. Yes some innocent people will die, but the number of DNA cases that overturn guilty verdicts is minuscule by comparison.
 
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superdave1984 said:
What gets me is the "Pro Choice" people seem to be actually "pro abortion" rather than pushing choices in which the baby lives. Why don't they push adoption like they do abortion? Isn't that a choice? Here's a thought, how about choosing to keep your pants on. Now if that choice is taken away by force, coercion, etc, then there should be other options. Do the crime, do the time. If you don't want to raise the child, somebody else does. And the death penalty is far too lenient. If you kill somebody, you should die the same way. And screw this being on death row for 10-20 years. One year. If you can't get your conviction overturned or at least a new trial, sucks for you. Yes some innocent people will die, but the number of DNA cases that overturn guilty verdicts is minuscule by comparison.
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because the argument from that side isn't remotely about the potential child. It's steeped in liberalism and women potentially losing some rights.

Again, I don't care either way, but to try and rationalize from welfare of the children viewpoint makes no impact on the other side of the argument.
 
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is what im afraid that is if it is marketed as a viable option, then abortion will be used as birth control,,
 
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