This season we will have a real coach for the 1st time in a while

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He is an upgrade to his fair haired predecessor. I am not holding high hopes he is the right coach to lead Tennessee back to the promise land.
 
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BaldBiker said:
perico said:
I'm more confident with Jones at the helm than I ever was with Dooley, I'll say that much. His experience coming into the job trumps that of the Dool.

However, as much as I may get blasted for this, Kiffin was a "real coach" in his one season here. I don't like the way he went about it anymore than ya'll do, but what he did with the passing game was nothing short of remarkable, and we had a top defense made out of a shoe string budget (and one superstar). His style of football perfectly fit the SEC, while it hasn't worked out west.[/QUOTE]

The man was handed on a golden platter one of, if not the most talent stacked team in the country. Has signed some of the, if not the most talented classes in the country.......finished in the toilet bowl.....and lost. NOT a real coach. If I were his recruits. I'd be beat feeting it for the hills and looking elsewhere.
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In terms of coaching and recruiting only, Kiffin was a solid hire. People forget just how truly horrible Jonathan Crompton was at QB and Poole became a 1000 yard rusher under him after toiling on the bench.

His old man seemed to be a weak link at times (Ole Miss game) at DC and again this season at USC.

I hold less ill will towards Kiffin bolting for his version of the dream job than I do Dooley. With the recruiting situation being what it is, you can argue that Dooley was going out of his way to hurt UT this past season. He flat out bailed on this program on and off the field this season but will continue to get paid for it.
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FEARinSEC said:
You know we were lucky as he!! to even be in that game? Luckily, Florida lost after beating us and we backed into that game. I'll have to go with 2004 as well.
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That team was stomped by Cal, UF, and AL and had a 2 point win over KY and a 1 pt win over Vandy to their credit.

No one will ever convince me that Fulmer should not have been fired after the 2005 season. Entered the year with a top 5 ranking and finished without a bowl appearance.

After 2001, Fulmer became more about making excuses than fixing the problems and he was completely lost without Cutcliffe. No surprise that he made his last SECCG appearance after Cutcliffe did him the favor of coming back for two seasons.
 
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rickyyrs said:
You know i hate to bring this up. But with the talent Fulmer had we should of won alot more games. I believe with all the talent when Peyton was here we should of won a NC with that bunch.
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i agree fulmer was great coach just stuck in the 70's and 80's about how the new pass happy teams were becoming
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
BaldBiker said:
In terms of coaching and recruiting only, Kiffin was a solid hire. People forget just how truly horrible Jonathan Crompton was at QB and Poole became a 1000 yard rusher under him after toiling on the bench.

His old man seemed to be a weak link at times (Ole Miss game) at DC and again this season at USC.

I hold less ill will towards Kiffin bolting for his version of the dream job than I do Dooley. With the recruiting situation being what it is, you can argue that Dooley was going out of his way to hurt UT this past season. He flat out bailed on this program on and off the field this season but will continue to get paid for it.
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I hold no ill will to the man for leaving, but in the big picture am glad he is gone. I was all for giving Dooley a chance....and feel we did. Had UT had even a halfway decent season this year, I think he would have been back for one more year. We didn't have that season, and I think you may be correct that DD bailed on the program somewhere along the way.

CBJ may or may not be the answer. Time will tell. But he is who we have and I wish him the best and hope that this time next year we are all singing his praises. After the last few years.....REAL improvement is all i'm really looking for. Next years schedule would be difficult for any coach, so i'm not sure I really have a specific record in mind to measure by. Right now......just show me...the fan......tangible improvements for my beloved Vols.
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landscapingvol said:
It may not result in 12 wins but I believe UT has a lot more talent than our record has shown. I never had that confidence with Kiffin, Dooley, or Fulmer (post 2004) at the helm.
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I'm hopeful that your right about having a real coach. Coach Jones does have a long track record coaching winning teams. Of course, this hasn't been at the SEC level. Dooley on the other hand was constantly out-coached. And, he came to us with a very unimpressive background. Kiffin proved his inability to coach once again this year. He also didn't exactly have a sterling coaching record prior to coming to TN. Fulmer? His time came and went IMO. A few more wins against the Gators would have been nice.

Thus, Jones can make up for a lot with good 'game time' decision making. Things can snowball from there with recruiting. Time will tell...
 
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People forget that Kiffin had absolutely nothing to do with Poole becoming a 1000 yard rusher.
 
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VOODOOVOL said:
Might have been a valid point if what you said was correct.
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My point was that the people slobbering over him are just as delusional as the ones that are trashing him. People are casting judgment before the trial has begun. Signing one EE juco is hardly enough to go on IMO.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
My point was that the people slobbering over him are just as delusional as the ones that are trashing him. People are casting judgment before the trial has begun. Signing one EE juco is hardly enough to go on IMO.
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Agree 100%.
 
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BandVOL said:
I will tell you that we have NOTHING to go by at this moment that proves he is a great coach. OK he speaks the language of UT (could be marketing coaching him ...by the way there is a New Executive over the PR dept)
Ok..we have itunes video that shows he is pumping up his players (HELLO ....he is a coach what did you think they would show ?)

Recruiting.....On this one I have yet to see that he signed a PLayer or brought in a new player that wasn't on the market and considering UT anyway
I do not stay on top of recruiting until after signing day....too many ups and downs so I could be wrong here

I say ...Let's see him prove he is the man for the job
Remember when Dooley was hired there were a TON of these threads about what a nice guy he was and how his Dad would help him etc etc etc and stand behind him as the new coach
I will support the new coach but I want to see it on the field ...but don't expect me or a LARGE number of Boosters to give this new Coach our checkbook...we have seen it too many times
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he has been head coach for nearly 100 games, I would say that is something you could look at
 
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Coaching is indeed important, but getting great talent is even more important.....the best talent beats good coaching 90% of the time or it has as long as I've been following the Vols as well as playing sports.....fact is, reality sucks sometimes, but it is what it is
 
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It will be interesting this time next year to see what everyone thinks of Coach Jones, I'll reserve my judgement until we see a season of Jones ball at UT. I will say that I never thought I'd see Tennessee Football fall to this point....it makes me angry, sad, and at the same time I just have to laugh about it

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We keep digging in the pile of sh!t and hoping we find a pony. Maybe we will, but there's no reason-- so far-- to think this hire is any better than the last two. The Jones staff hiring and recruiting have not been awe-inspiring, unless of course, we aspire to be the Tennessee Bearcats.
 
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LA Vol said:
We keep digging in the pile of sh!t and hoping we find a pony. Maybe we will, but there's no reason-- so far-- to think this hire is any better than the last two. The Jones staff hiring and recruiting have not been awe-inspiring, unless of course, we aspire to be the Tennessee Bearcats.
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The fact he's won everywhere he's been leads me to believe otherwise.
 
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He has talked a good game up to this point and he won in the MAC and Big East, but to this point, he has done nothing in the SEC. When and if he can, then we can start talking about him being the best coach we've had in a while.
 
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bUTch has demonstrated that he is a winner. He will win at UT. Nobody knows how much now, but he has won everywhere he has been the hfc. Volnation should unite behind him like him or not. He will be our coach for years.
 
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bigorange247 said:
bUTch has demonstrated that he is a winner. He will win at UT. Nobody knows how much now, but he has won everywhere he has been the hfc. Volnation should unite behind him like him or not. He will be our coach for years.
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Most on here are too stupid to realize that because they think that Dooley and Kiffin had the same qualifications which is laughable. Kiffin had basically no real experience as a head coach under Al Davis and Dooley had only been a coach for three years with a losing record. Jones has been coaching for nearly 25 years and head coach for 6 years with 3 conference championships.
 
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photovol said:
Coaching is indeed important, but getting great talent is even more important.....the best talent beats good coaching 90% of the time or it has as long as I've been following the Vols as well as playing sports.....fact is, reality sucks sometimes, but it is what it is
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Louisville is proving your point wrong right now.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Louisville is proving your point wrong right now.
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I can't disagree with you....I said 90% of the time....I hope they beat the s*** out of the Gators.....then the Vols go undefeated this year......back to the If's and But's
Go Vowels
 
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