Thought on SEC schedule [league decides to stick with 8 games in 2024]

#76
#76
I think every scenario has merits and drawbacks and I certainly do understand everyone's desire to preserve tradition and to play traditional rivalries. I want to play Bama, Georgia and Florida every year because those are the teams that UT had the fiercest rivalries with while I was growing up. I don't really care about playing Vandy because, for the most part, it's never been competitive and I don't see that changing much. Kentucky? Meh. Same thing, I could take 'em or leave 'em. I want to see good games, which brings me to my second point. To me, the bigger issue is the non-conference schedule. I think 99 percent of us here don't get very excited to see the Vols beat the snot of Kent State, UTEP, etc. Three or four of these kinds of games every year is embarassing. If the AD is going to insist on scheduling patsies, at least keep it in state and spread the wealth to Chattanooga, UT-Martin, Austin Peay and the like.

We all know why they schedule the games they do but as a fan I just think it stinks.
 
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turbovol said:
The league doesn't care about history, the athletic directors don't, so it's rather pointless for fans to get weepy over lost traditions and potentially lost rivalries. Why would we want to play bama ever year--the strongest program in the conference? It's a cutthroat, greedy business--and fans should approach it that way now as well. We're better off not playing bama.
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Shouldn't be scared to play anyone. You SHOULD care about rivalries because that's what makes college football unique
 
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Can you imagine after this season how excited everybody is going to be to see the new SEC schedules your team will play!...Just leading up to the announcement's of who we will play is going to be crazy!
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Can you imagine after this season how excited everybody is going to be to see the new SEC schedules your team will play!...Just leading up to the announcement's of who we will play is going to be crazy!
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Don’t know why they haven’t done a schedule release like this every year . I know they did during the Covid season, but they always need to make something of it. I did hear that they won’t be releasing the dates, just the opponents. I’ll be shocked if we don’t play Bama or if they don’t go heavy on us because Vandy being our 1 carryover.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Can you imagine after this season how excited everybody is going to be to see the new SEC schedules your team will play!...Just leading up to the announcement's of who we will play is going to be crazy!
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What would be REALLY wild and have a HUGE audience is if they did it this way on a live show on the SEC Network.
Have all 14 AD’s draw school names out of a hat. You take turns drawing until all 14 have 8 names with no duplicates (duplicates go back into the hat as do any names that already have drawn 8 different schools).
So, this would just be blind luck.
Imagine if Bama ended up with the 8 best teams.
How fun would that be to see Saban’s face.
 
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I might be alone but I don’t care who we play as long as we win and it gets us into the playoff, that’s what it’s all about. If it means that we miss the playoff because we lost to Georgia and Alabama every year then I don’t want to play them. Give me the playoff!! I don’t care about rivalries.
 
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LWSVOL said:
for 24 I think they will keep Bama and Vandy.. the other 6 games are important. Will they include Uga and Florida??

2025 will end up being the 9 game with 6 / 3 format IMO
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after they get more money for the extra game
 
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RockyTopTexas said:
there will be no such thing as a rivalry really.. you are ruining all the ones we currently have to add what a Ark rivalry lol
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I am not so sure rivalries die if the teams play every two years. Pretty sure that won't kill rivalries.
I am less of a purist than you are. This new scheduling opens up new rivals. I want Texas and Oklahoma to have a rivalry with us.

The lack of divisions brings back the Ole Miss and Auburn rivalries.
I hated divisions limiting who we played. I want to test our program against the entire "Super" Conference.
This system makes each team's path to being the SEC Champion far more equitable.

I 100% support scheduling parity, and this system, whether the 8 or 9 game version, gets about as close as possible.
I like getting the historic OM and Aub rivalries back. I hate the Third Saturday being a slow burn, but it also makes our path to the Championship more likely.
How many SEC East division crowns would UF and UGA have lost if they added a loss to Bama each season since 2007?
This schedule means if we win, we have a good chance of playing Bama each season in Atlanta.
Vol865 said:
Shouldn't be scared to play anyone. You SHOULD care about rivalries because that's what makes college football unique
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Ubben's post stating 2024 will not have permanent rivals means nothing is decided.
The rotation schedule give us a couple of rivals back (every other season)who we practically never see now.
The simple truth is the SEC is getting too big to deliver very many annual matchups, in exchange for playing the entire conference. Rivalries are going to be slow burns in most cases, but better than playing AUB LSU OM MSSt twice per decade.

Super Conferences dilute rivalries. This is it going forward. Gets worse with more expansion.
 
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volfaninky said:
I might be alone but I don’t care who we play as long as we win and it gets us into the playoff, that’s what it’s all about. If it means that we miss the playoff because we lost to Georgia and Alabama every year then I don’t want to play them. Give me the playoff!! I don’t care about rivalries.
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If you do not beat teams like Bama and Georgia then you do not deserve to be in the playoffs
 
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SpookyAction said:
I am not so sure rivalries die if the teams play every two years. Pretty sure that won't kill rivalries.
I am less of a purist than you are. This new scheduling opens up new rivals. I want Texas and Oklahoma to have a rivalry with us.

The lack of divisions brings back the Ole Miss and Auburn rivalries.
I hated divisions limiting who we played. I want to test our program against the entire "Super" Conference.
This system makes each team's path to being the SEC Champion far more equitable.

I 100% support scheduling parity, and this system, whether the 8 or 9 game version, gets about as close as possible.
I like getting the historic OM and Aub rivalries back. I hate the Third Saturday being a slow burn, but it also makes our path to the Championship more likely.
How many SEC East division crowns would UF and UGA have lost if they added a loss to Bama each season since 2007?
This schedule means if we win, we have a good chance of playing Bama each season in Atlanta.

Ubben's post stating 2024 will not have permanent rivals means nothing is decided.
The rotation schedule give us a couple of rivals back (every other season)who we practically never see now.
The simple truth is the SEC is getting too big to deliver very many annual matchups, in exchange for playing the entire conference. Rivalries are going to be slow burns in most cases, but better than playing AUB LSU OM MSSt twice per decade.

Super Conferences dilute rivalries. This is it going forward. Gets worse with more expansion.
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I'm fine with rotating but I want to play Bama and Florida every year regardless. Don't care about Vandy or UK but some want them too so its whatever. UK is more of a rival than Vandy. Bama and Florida are on a different level when it comes to rivalries and it shows in attendance numbers.
 
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It all comes down for UT - do we want to play Bama, UGA, or Florida every year.
UK and Vandy aren't going to make he cut as those are not big revenue producing games (i.e TV, Advertising, Fan Draw outside of the SEC).

I bet we stick with Bama as even in the down years, the Third Saturday in October means something to the average football fan.
Hopefully, hopefully, we see UGA and Florida in alternating years.

As the article seems to lean towards too though, this seems like a stop gap type measure to get OK and TX in the conference and then we'll revamp schedule within a year or two again and possibly move to 9 games.
A lot of that depends on amount of new revenue generated and shared among the 16 instead of 14 teams.
 
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SpookyAction said:
I am not so sure rivalries die if the teams play every two years. Pretty sure that won't kill rivalries.
I am less of a purist than you are. This new scheduling opens up new rivals. I want Texas and Oklahoma to have a rivalry with us.

The lack of divisions brings back the Ole Miss and Auburn rivalries.
I hated divisions limiting who we played. I want to test our program against the entire "Super" Conference.
This system makes each team's path to being the SEC Champion far more equitable.

I 100% support scheduling parity, and this system, whether the 8 or 9 game version, gets about as close as possible.
I like getting the historic OM and Aub rivalries back. I hate the Third Saturday being a slow burn, but it also makes our path to the Championship more likely.
How many SEC East division crowns would UF and UGA have lost if they added a loss to Bama each season since 2007?
This schedule means if we win, we have a good chance of playing Bama each season in Atlanta.

Ubben's post stating 2024 will not have permanent rivals means nothing is decided.
The rotation schedule give us a couple of rivals back (every other season)who we practically never see now.
The simple truth is the SEC is getting too big to deliver very many annual matchups, in exchange for playing the entire conference. Rivalries are going to be slow burns in most cases, but better than playing AUB LSU OM MSSt twice per decade.

Super Conferences dilute rivalries. This is it going forward. Gets worse with more expansion.
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I’m completely with you if we had a full conference schedule but we don’t.. we have 3 weak games that don’t matter. So now you are literally replacing the Bama or Florida game to add a ark or ole miss game
that’s dumb imo
 
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SpookyAction said:
I am not so sure rivalries die if the teams play every two years. Pretty sure that won't kill rivalries.
I am less of a purist than you are. This new scheduling opens up new rivals. I want Texas and Oklahoma to have a rivalry with us.

The lack of divisions brings back the Ole Miss and Auburn rivalries.
I hated divisions limiting who we played. I want to test our program against the entire "Super" Conference.
This system makes each team's path to being the SEC Champion far more equitable.

I 100% support scheduling parity, and this system, whether the 8 or 9 game version, gets about as close as possible.
I like getting the historic OM and Aub rivalries back. I hate the Third Saturday being a slow burn, but it also makes our path to the Championship more likely.
How many SEC East division crowns would UF and UGA have lost if they added a loss to Bama each season since 2007?
This schedule means if we win, we have a good chance of playing Bama each season in Atlanta.

Ubben's post stating 2024 will not have permanent rivals means nothing is decided.
The rotation schedule give us a couple of rivals back (every other season)who we practically never see now.
The simple truth is the SEC is getting too big to deliver very many annual matchups, in exchange for playing the entire conference. Rivalries are going to be slow burns in most cases, but better than playing AUB LSU OM MSSt twice per decade.

Super Conferences dilute rivalries. This is it going forward. Gets worse with more expansion.
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Ubbans statement is not correct. 2 rivalries will still be present in 24. Tennessee keeps vandy and bama. I don't see either going off Tennessee's schedule at any time in the future. Jmo
 
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SpookyAction said:
I am not so sure rivalries die if the teams play every two years. Pretty sure that won't kill rivalries.
I am less of a purist than you are. This new scheduling opens up new rivals. I want Texas and Oklahoma to have a rivalry with us.

The lack of divisions brings back the Ole Miss and Auburn rivalries.
I hated divisions limiting who we played. I want to test our program against the entire "Super" Conference.
This system makes each team's path to being the SEC Champion far more equitable.

I 100% support scheduling parity, and this system, whether the 8 or 9 game version, gets about as close as possible.
I like getting the historic OM and Aub rivalries back. I hate the Third Saturday being a slow burn, but it also makes our path to the Championship more likely.
How many SEC East division crowns would UF and UGA have lost if they added a loss to Bama each season since 2007?
This schedule means if we win, we have a good chance of playing Bama each season in Atlanta.

Ubben's post stating 2024 will not have permanent rivals means nothing is decided.
The rotation schedule give us a couple of rivals back (every other season)who we practically never see now.
The simple truth is the SEC is getting too big to deliver very many annual matchups, in exchange for playing the entire conference. Rivalries are going to be slow burns in most cases, but better than playing AUB LSU OM MSSt twice per decade.

Super Conferences dilute rivalries. This is it going forward. Gets worse with more expansion.
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I think you are misinterpreting what Ubben said. He's saying 8 games in 2024 is not the 1/7/7 model that everyone had been expecting if we stayed at 8 games. The conference is just going to set 8 games for everyone, not necessarily according to a formula. Sankey said the primary and secondary rivalries would be protected in 2024, so we are getting Bama, Vandy and probably Kentucky for sure too.

Also, losing to Bama has not cost us a single division title since 2007. We haven't been good enough for it to matter.
 
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JT3 said:
I think Bama still ends up on our schedule as 1 of the other 7 teams in 2024 (especially if we win this year) but it's no way we would be Bama's 1 permanent opponent over Auburn.
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Agree. Vandy or possibly KY will be our permanent in 2024 and will keep Bama on 2024 schedule as placeholder to see if they revise to 9 game rotation in 2025. In state Auburn trumps TSIO for the collective entity of the state of Alabama...but not necessarily to many Bama or Vol fans.
 
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njvols said:
Agree. Vandy or possibly KY will be our permanent in 2024 and will keep Bama on 2024 schedule as placeholder to see if they revise to 9 game rotation in 2025. In state Auburn trumps TSIO for the collective entity of the state of Alabama...but not necessarily to many Bama or Vol fans.
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I hear that our primary is Vandy and secondary is Alabama. Kentucky is not in our top 3 for some reason...
 
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JT3 said:
I think Bama still ends up on our schedule as 1 of the other 7 teams in 2024 (especially if we win this year) but it's no way we would be Bama's 1 permanent opponent over Auburn.
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Yeah...2024 will be the transition year...we will have Bama on our schedule in 2024, but if they stick to the 8 games in 2025, Bama will fall off in 2025 as part of the rotation.

What I expect is 2025 to be a year we move to 9 games and Bama will stay on at that point as a rival for us...Alabama, Vandy and either KY/SC as the 3.
 
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