Thoughts on UT's Win over Wyoming

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1. In any organized sport, you play with your strengths. Clearly, the strength of this team is quality depth that opponents do not have. That makes this a marathon, not a sprint. Fans should get used to close first halves that turn into not so close 2nd halves

2. Sometimes a team looks like they are going to bust your game plan, but you have to be patient. Wyoming started 4-7 from Three Point range and would have been 5 for 8 if the PG didn't step on the baseline before they knocked down that 5th one. The ignorant fan screams and pitches a fit, but the serious BB fan just waits. Wyoming proceeded to miss their next 14 three point shots and ended up below their abysmal 21% average. That's game-planning.

3. I liked our defense a lot tonight. Our players were supposed to let Wyoming take three pointers. Them hitting over 50% of those to start, them shooting 17 free throws in the first half, and our guys missing some good shots from the perimeter, had them in this game early.

4. Think about 17 FTs in the first half for Wyoming. These were two teams that liked to run, two teams that shot an equal amount of three pointers, yet we had 19 FTs for the entire game. Need I say that "these refs sucked". I'm not sure I've seen a first half of such poor officiating outside of Memorial Gym or Rupp Arena.

5. JP Prince has turned the light on. He only scored 4 points, but he only attempted 5 shots and he had 6 rebounds, 6 assists, and 4 steals. A very nice game by JP.

6. I thought Scotty also played within himself. He clearly has lost some confidence and it is harming his long-range shot. But he was still 7 of 12 from the field and really hustled on defense. He still needs to hit the glass harder.

7. This was the best game played by our PGs IMO. Probably because of Pearl's scheme and Wyoming's game plan (which basically put the ball in Tyler Smith's hands way too much for them; if a guy is 2nd in the NCAA in assist to turnovers, you probably don't want to game-plan the ball into his hands). Maze and Goins took smart shots. Goins got jobbed on 2 bad charge calls. Their assists were down, but that was because Tyler and JP were handling the ball a lot and between them they had 12 of UT's 18 assists.

8. Brian Williams seems to be improving. I don't know if they have stats on it, but he may lead this team in traditional three point plays.

9. Tyler is struggling a bit at the FT line this year. As much as he handles the ball, that has got to change for us to be successful. If he shoots 75% tonight, the Vols would have shot almost 79% as a team.

10. Some nights you just have a bad shooting night. I thought our guys took some good shots, but we just couldn't get them to go down. Between them, Wayne, Cam, Scotty, and Skyler went 2 for 13 from three point range.

11. This game in the first 20 minutes really came down to things we can't do a lot about. Wyoming's initial hot shooting, the refs' terrible first half, and our cold shooting early made this a lot closer early than it should have been. Sometimes focus has a lot to do with this stuff and I'm sure Wyoming playing a top 10 team helped their focus and us playing another bad team hurt our focus and that can lead to getting cross-ways on both ends of the court where shooting is concerned. Ultimately, however, we ended up shooting 47.6% and they finished at 37.8%. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

12. Ultimately, the jury is still out. 5 of the next 6 games (sorry NC A&T) will tell us whether this team is a legitimate contender for the Final Four or still has too many issues to make that kind of run.
 
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just flat out sloppy in the first half but at the same time the refs were making AWFUL calls BUT the second half was a diffrent story
 
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5. JP Prince has turned the light on. He only scored 4 points, but he only attempted 5 shots and he had 6 rebounds, 6 assists, and 4 steals. A very nice game by JP.

He also took 3 or 4 charges... That impressed me most.
 
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we played sloopy we wont get lucky like that aganist kansas, kentucky,florida etc. we need to pick it up. I guess thats how good teams pull through and get it done when its not your night.
 
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[12. Ultimately, the jury is still out. 5 of the next 6 games (sorry NC A&T) will tell us whether this team is a legitimate contender for the Final Four or still has too many issues to make that kind of run.[/QUOTE]

You Cannot be serious of thinking this team is capable of a Final Four. Unless you mean getting to madison Square garden in the NIT Final Four. All the people that want to point to that purdue game and say we stood toe to toe with a great team, NO WAY. Both teams are overrated. We are around 20-30 range in my opinion. We cannot shoot the ball. Skyler is very streaky and percentage wise the shooter with the best incoming promise is just getting eligible. josh bone is not our shooting woes answer but might soften the burden a tad, that is if he sees meaningful minutes. Sorry to be such a realist, but Iam a long suffering fan and have seen way more talented teams than this not sniff a Final Four.
 
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On offense? How so? Count me as a doubting Thomas.

6 assists equal at least 12 points scored by others on the team. 4 steals means he prevented the other team from scoring on those possessions and may have led to baskets for the Vols off of those steals that he didn't assist on. 4 points scored and no turnovers. Take out his line and I bet you can take out at least a 20 point swing. We won by 19.

Tatum had 7 points and 2 assists with no steals. He also missed 6 shots to JP's 3.

IMO, JP had the third best game of the night for us behind Tyler and Scotty and it is debatable whether he had a better game than Scotty considering JP was also 2nd on the team tonight in rebounds behind Brian.
 
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I am not an optimist. My friend I am a Realist! We are going to get Smoked, No question. I hope I am wrong but see nooutside shooting and rebounding to keep us competitive. Poor Bryan Williams is 6-10 and can't make a layup. He reminds me of Torrey harris except harris could play post defense.
 
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[12. Ultimately, the jury is still out. 5 of the next 6 games (sorry NC A&T) will tell us whether this team is a legitimate contender for the Final Four or still has too many issues to make that kind of run.

You Cannot be serious of thinking this team is capable of a Final Four. Unless you mean getting to madison Square garden in the NIT Final Four. All the people that want to point to that purdue game and say we stood toe to toe with a great team, NO WAY. Both teams are overrated. We are around 20-30 range in my opinion. We cannot shoot the ball. Skyler is very streaky and percentage wise the shooter with the best incoming promise is just getting eligible. josh bone is not our shooting woes answer but might soften the burden a tad, that is if he sees meaningful minutes. Sorry to be such a realist, but Iam a long suffering fan and have seen way more talented teams than this not sniff a Final Four.


That is silly. If you are applying pure opinion at this stage of the season, you could rule out a lot of teams. Is Kansas a potential Final Four team because they beat Memphis by 2 points on a neutral court? Or maybe because they beat a 2-6 UCLA team on the road. The rest of their schedule is filled with cupcakes. Memphis is the only team they have played with a pulse (of course Kansas is the only team of any note that Memphis has played this season).

Anyone making judgments this early in the season doesn't know much about basketball. There are a lot of people who know 10 times as much about basketball than both of us combined who believe the Vols are legitimate Final Four contenders. All the voters in the Coaches' poll and Joe Lunardi, who has us a #2 seed right now.
 
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[12. Ultimately, the jury is still out. 5 of the next 6 games (sorry NC A&T) will tell us whether this team is a legitimate contender for the Final Four or still has too many issues to make that kind of run.

You Cannot be serious of thinking this team is capable of a Final Four. Unless you mean getting to madison Square garden in the NIT Final Four. All the people that want to point to that purdue game and say we stood toe to toe with a great team, NO WAY. Both teams are overrated. We are around 20-30 range in my opinion. We cannot shoot the ball. Skyler is very streaky and percentage wise the shooter with the best incoming promise is just getting eligible. josh bone is not our shooting woes answer but might soften the burden a tad, that is if he sees meaningful minutes. Sorry to be such a realist, but Iam a long suffering fan and have seen way more talented teams than this not sniff a Final Four.[/QUOTE]

Hilarious post.

Name 19 teams better than the Vols. I will save the laughter from having you try to think of the names of 29 teams. Just go with 19.

Georgetown, Syracuse and Kentucky have great wins this early in the year.

When you get to Bracketology and look at games where you know UT would win, and games where you know UT would lose, we would beat most of the field most of the time.

Depending on the draw we could get to the Final Four.

I also hate the draw in the current Bracketology. UNLV, UNC and then Syracuse. I would not think we get there with that draw.

However...put us on the side where Texas is number 1 and Villanova is 3? We could be a Final 4 team with that 2 seed.

Also Purdue is not tremendously overrated. Who do you think will unmask them? How many losses do you think they will have on the year?
 
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2. Sometimes a team looks like they are going to bust your game plan, but you have to be patient. Wyoming started 4-7 from Three Point range and would have been 5 for 8 if the PG didn't step on the baseline before they knocked down that 5th one. The ignorant fan screams and pitches a fit, but the serious BB fan just waits. Wyoming proceeded to miss their next 14 three point shots and ended up below their abysmal 21% average. That's game-planning.

People were pitching a fit about the wide open threes they were (apparently) getting. I didn't watch the game, but that sounds about right considering what we are used to seeing. That's not ignorance, that's frustration with the lack of defense that has become a pretty consistent problem. That said, the team should be commended for correcting the problem in this particular game.

That is silly. If you are applying pure opinion at this stage of the season, you could rule out a lot of teams. Is Kansas a potential Final Four team because they beat Memphis by 2 points on a neutral court? Or maybe because they beat a 2-6 UCLA team on the road. The rest of their schedule is filled with cupcakes. Memphis is the only team they have played with a pulse (of course Kansas is the only team of any note that Memphis has played this season).

Anyone making judgments this early in the season doesn't know much about basketball. There are a lot of people who know 10 times as much about basketball than both of us combined who believe the Vols are legitimate Final Four contenders. All the voters in the Coaches' poll and Joe Lunardi, who has us a #2 seed right now.

I think we have a pretty good sample size at this point for a lot of teams. Tennessee looks like a more talented version of last year. In a weak SEC, that is going to be good for a lot of regular season wins and a high seed. However, they are going to need a very favorable draw to be a legitimate threat to reach the Final Four, at least based on what we have seen so far. Much like last year, competent guards are going to toast them pretty much all year, if they hit a team with good players in the front court to go along with that, their style simply isn't going to get it done.
 
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Thanks for deleting my thread mod. I don't know how or why it deserved being deleted but this is the last time I visit this part of volnation forum anyway.

Enjoy your win over us in Basketball because I'm sure you didn't in football.
 
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Thanks for deleting my thread mod. I don't know how or why it deserved being deleted but this is the last time I visit this part of volnation forum anyway.

Enjoy your win over us in Basketball because I'm sure you didn't in football.

While I agree that your thread probably didn't need to be deleted, your lame attempt at football smack talk is pretty ridiculous. Call us when you start playing in a real league and get one of those shiny BCS trophies.
 
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While I agree that your thread probably didn't need to be deleted, your lame attempt at football smack talk is pretty ridiculous. Call us when you start playing in a real league and get one of those shiny BCS trophies.

real league? Just ask Utah, TCU, or BYU about their trophies. We play in their league if you forgot... Your statement is laughable :nono:
 
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real league? Just ask Utah, TCU, or BYU about their trophies. We play in their league if you forgot... Your statement is laughable :nono:


I think you know what I was saying. You can talk all the crap you want about the win last year, but I believe the other two meetings turned out rather badly for you.

Also, the fact that you have to bring up teams that pretty much use you as a doormat should tell you something.
 
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They played at the level of the competition for most of the game. Crowd was pathetic as well. I'll take the W anyday though.
 
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Thanks for deleting my thread mod. I don't know how or why it deserved being deleted but this is the last time I visit this part of volnation forum anyway.

Enjoy your win over us in Basketball because I'm sure you didn't in football.



:eek:k:

The highlight of Wyoming's history.....

Congrats. :eek:lol:
 
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:eek:k:

The highlight of Wyoming's history.....

Congrats. :eek:lol:

no not really.. I'll take our '88-'90 conference championships and holiday bowl wins... over a non-ranked out conference opponent anyday. But since we were playing Tenn today, I just thought I'd bring it up :birgits_giggle:
 

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