Thoughts on UT's Win over Wyoming

#51
#51
Did I pee in your wheaties or something?

If you don't think that Tennessee's consistently allowing wide open looks from 3 is a problem, I don't know what to tell you. You simply cannot look at this team and tell me that defense is not a problem. If you are making that claim, THAT is ignorance.

No -- I changed my mind. I agree with you. When we play a team whose strength is shooting wide-open threes, we should play a packed-in zone. When we play a team whose weakness is shooting threes, we should guard them with tight man to man forcing them to drive to the bucket. Brilliant strategy.

Being in the top 15% of all Division 1 teams in Scoring Defense, top 10% in Field Goal Percentage Defense, and top 15% in three point percentage defense is a serious concern. After all, Kansas is ranked 2 spots ahead of us in three point percentage defense. I'm sure they would have held Wyoming to 18% from 3 point range instead of 19%

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#52
#52
So, the RPI SOS rankings are fine, but the RPI rankings that are based heavily on those SOS rankings aren't? That makes no sense.

Bottom line, Tennessee has played a great Purdue team and a so-so DePaul team. Michigan St. has played Gonzaga, UNC and Florida. Kentucky has UNC, UConn and a decent Indiana squad. Both teams' schedules trump Tennessee's at this point. Hell, you can go ahead and throw UNC on there, too. Kentucky, Michigan St. and Ohio St.

WTH are you going on about? I have no problem with any part of the RPI. The RPI SOS is what it is. If you've got a problem with it, congratulations. I posted what it says, you've posted an opinion as to SOS and a "trump" schedule -- I don't know what that is, but please post the "trumped" link.

There is only one of the RPI SOS -- everyone, OTOH, has an opinion. I haven't shared mine on the issue. I did make a point that you seem to have missed completely and gone on a tangent about the RPI.

Relax Francis. No one is arguing with you about the RPI.
 
#53
#53
WTH are you going on about? I have no problem with any part of the RPI. The RPI SOS is what it is. If you've got a problem with it, congratulations. I posted what it says, you've posted an opinion as to SOS and a "trump" schedule -- I don't know what that is, but please post the "trumped" link.

There is only one of the RPI SOS -- everyone, OTOH, has an opinion. I haven't shared mine on the issue. I did make a point that you seem to have missed completely and gone on a tangent about the RPI.

Relax Francis. No one is arguing with you about the RPI.

You said that Tennessee had played a tougher schedule than the teams I listed. You used RPI to back it up. I said the RPI is crap right now.

And you know damn well what I was saying about scheduling. Those three teams have tougher schedules. What exactly is your problem with that?
 
#54
#54
No -- I changed my mind. I agree with you. When we play a team whose strength is shooting wide-open threes, we should play a packed-in zone. When we play a team whose weakness is shooting threes, we should guard them with tight man to man forcing them to drive to the bucket. Brilliant strategy.

Being in the top 15% of all Division 1 teams in Scoring Defense, top 10% in Field Goal Percentage Defense, and top 15% in three point percentage defense is a serious concern. After all, Kansas is ranked 2 spots ahead of us in three point percentage defense. I'm sure they would have held Wyoming to 18% from 3 point range instead of 19%

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You must have missed my post about not watching the game. I said that Tennessee's defense frustrates many of us, which it does. This is in general, not against Wyoming.
 
#55
#55
You must have missed my post about not watching the game. I said that Tennessee's defense frustrates many of us, which it does. This is in general, not against Wyoming.

We are in the top 15% in the nation (right behind Kansas) in three point percentage defense. This is in general, not just against Wyoming.

Perhaps those stats are "crap" like the RPI.:dunno:
 
#56
#56
You must have missed my post about not watching the game. I said that Tennessee's defense frustrates many of us, which it does. This is in general, not against Wyoming.

Our defense does frustrate at times, but I think they are leaps and bounds farther along this year as compared to last year.
 
#57
#57
The point was about the RPI's SOS, not about the RPI rankings generally.

No it wasn't. You said we have played a tougher schedule than a list of schools. I said that is incorrect. You responded by telling me that my argument is with the RPI. The RPI is utter trash, but my debate was with you saying we have plated a tougher schedule, which is not true.

The other was that everyone needs favorable draws to make the final 4, which is equally untrue.
 
#58
#58
We are in the top 15% in the nation (right behind Kansas) in three point percentage defense. This is in general, not just against Wyoming.

Perhaps those stats are "crap" like the RPI.:dunno:
They are. We haven't played teams that can shoot.

Goins has helped the D at the point of attack, but anyone with a respectable post presence will find many open shots because we don't defend the bucket well and are soft.
 
#60
#60
They are. We haven't played teams that can shoot.

Goins has helped the D at the point of attack, but anyone with a respectable post presence will find many open shots because we don't defend the bucket well and are soft.

+100. I don't expect those numbers to last.

Hell, of Tennessee's opponents to date, 3 are in the top 50% in 3pt shooting % in the country. Of those three, Austin Peay checks in with the highest ranking at 132. The Vols sure have faced some fine 3pt shooting squads.
 
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#65
#65
The RPI is utter trash, but my debate was with you saying we have played a tougher schedule, which is not true.

Exactly. The problem with RPI is that if you play a scrub who is sitting at 110 in the RPI, your schedule looks all the more better than the other team you played the scrub sitting at 280. Both of those games should be gimmes for "elite" teams. I think Hatvol stated it best when stating that a team could play UNC, KU, Appalachian St, Presbyterian and have a lower SOS than a team playing Rutgers, Alabama, Arizona, and St. Johns. Which schedule do you think is harder? Which schedule do you think Tenn would have a better record playing. I hope the point is now understood that RPI and SOS are not completely indicative of who played a tougher schedule.
 
#67
#67
Being in the top 15% of all Division 1 teams in Scoring Defense, top 10% in Field Goal Percentage Defense, and top 15% in three point percentage defense is a serious concern. After all, Kansas is ranked 2 spots ahead of us in three point percentage defense. I'm sure they would have held Wyoming to 18% from 3 point range instead of 19%

Lidderer? Is that you ?
 

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