Three New Rules for U.S. Presidency

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golfballs03 said:
That is not compulsory service. That established the current system. You have a link to that 1.5 figure?

There isn't a doubt in my mind that if the system were unequivocal and even politicians and their sons and daughters were tied to compulsory service, that we would have a different national stance on foreign engagement.
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That maybe so, but that's about as likely to happen as RT's pacifistic utopia. No way do the elite ever allow that.
 
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Weezy said:
Mandatory military is a joke. Just because you enjoyed it and benefited doesn't mean it's best for everybody.
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That may be to the latter part. However, if he is going to be Commander and Chief, having served in the military is not a bad requirement.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
That may be to the latter part. However, if he is going to be Commander and Chief, having served in the military is not a bad requirement.
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well since the economy is involved we should require every Pres to have owned their own business too
 
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It's funny how the British royal family had the princes in military service and our leaders want no part of it.
 
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utvolpj said:
they do already. What you want is for all to defend them in the manner you see fit. Thankfully we have a choice in the US
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Obviously not all of them. That's the point

Also, it could be arranged so that conscripted people would choose what service they would prefer - and they could defend their freedoms in a manner they see fit. :hi:
 
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golfballs03 said:
Obviously not all of them. That's the point

Also, it could be arranged so that conscripted people would choose what service they would prefer - and they could defend their freedoms in a manner they see fit. :hi:
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you're still talking military though right? People defend freedoms every day that have zero to do with the military
 
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utvolpj said:
you're still talking military though right? People defend freedoms every day that have zero to do with the military
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So you would be more in favor of just national service - not necessarily military?
 
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golfballs03 said:
taxes?
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why would I be for taxes? The way our govt works it's essentially theft
 
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what do you think about the government's requirement that all children go to school?
 
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now you're going under the age of 18 but the US education system is broken, outdated or both. Forcing everyone into the same govt schools to learn the same life skills doesn't benefit anyone.

golfballs03 said:
non-compulsory taxes. I'd be for that.
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like a consumption tax?
 
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utvolpj said:
well since the economy is involved we should require every Pres to have owned their own business too
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Although I think that a president should either have owned a business of some sort or have a degree in economics, I don't believe it should be an official requirement. Just a subjective one.

Commander and Chief involves the making decisions which hold the lives of our soldiers in the balance. I believe it is a different animal. I believe serving is a unique experience which you cannot replicate by reading a book or shooting a gun. Just different in my opinion.
 
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utvolpj said:
now you're going under the age of 18 but the US education system is broken, outdated or both. Forcing everyone into the same govt schools to learn the same life skills doesn't benefit anyone.



like a consumption tax?
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Well either way, parents are forced to send their children to school. The parents are over 18. But don't people under the age of 18 have domestic rights too?
 
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utvolpj said:
quite a few US politicians have children in active service or have served themselves
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It's a good stepping stone for those who want to go into politics. Also the elite usually can help make their children's roles cushier.
 
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Not sure what good 2 or 3 would accomplish. Lincoln, Jefferson, Reagan, and FDR are just four President's considered "great" who did not serve in the military.

#1 is pretty dumb IMO. MOST of the harm done by Presidents has been after they no longer had to face voters. Obama has already given hints that he will become much more radical and ignore Congress/Judiciary/Constitution even more if re-elected.

Unfortunately the most likely alternative is the same guy politically speaking but with a country club membership.
 
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golfballs03 said:
Well either way, parents are forced to send their children to school. The parents are over 18. But don't people under the age of 18 have domestic rights too?
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some but not many as they are still considered underage. Complete lack of education does not move a country or people forward.

fix the education system in this country to allow it to adapt to different types of people and we won't be having this conversation
 
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golfballs03 said:
taxes?
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I am against compulsory taxation.... That's why I think the FAIR Tax is the best alternative. You only pay when you "choose" to consume part of the nation's composite wealth. You do NOT pay when you contribute to it through labor or investment.
 
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utvolpj said:
some but not many as they are still considered underage. Complete lack of education does not move a country or people forward.

fix the education system in this country to allow it to adapt to different types of people and we won't be having this conversation
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Ok, but the point still stands. Parents - who are over 18 - are forced by the government to send their kids to school.
 
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