Time to End Guarantee Game??

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onevol74 said:
The article is spot on. Bama has dominated UT with the exceptions of a couple of streaks since 1970. As an older Vol fan I detest Bama and if the SEC ever decided to clean up its act and hold programs accountable then Bama would never win another championship.

The "Third Saturday in October" is a rivalry in name only. Not one time since 1967 or 1968 has the UT-Bama game meant anything to a conference championship. Since that time one team or the other has been dominant and the other team in a depression. Also, you would think that if the game was a headliner then you would have seen at least one rematch in the SEC Championship Game since it began in 1992. Afterall, we have played in different divisions for 21 years now.

The UT-Florida game has a much greater bearing on whether UT can get to Atlanta. And before that it was the UT-Auburn game which had a larger impact on our season than the Bama game.

I am not for eliminating the UT-Bama game to retain an 8 game SEC schedule because the AD's will just book another patsy as an OOC game. The SEC needs a 9 game schedule to bring some of the fans back to the stadiums. Empty seats were evident in every SEC stadium last year and it going to get worse if Mike Slive and the AD's do not wake up. Scheduling patsies is even a bigger problem for UT. Ten years ago the AD thought that it did not matter who you scheduled at Neyland Stadium 108,000 would show up. That became a false perception.

Majors and Doug Dickey built this program back up by scheduling schools like Notre Dame, UCLA, Miami, USC, and Pitt, when they were good. That line of scheduling brought recruits that wanted to compete against those teams. I know that we have Oregon on the schedule now but knowing our recent history of buying out some series I have to question if we will ever play Nebraska, Oklahoma, or Ohio State. Even Oregon hinted that we were trying to buy out that return trip this year.

If we are going to play a subpar OOC schedule then we need to go to 9 SEC games and keep the money in the conference.
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So buy history you mean that one game we bought out that one time...got it
 
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Just remember, Kevin Scarbinsky, the next time you get shat on by a pigeon or your hot water mysteriously cuts out in the middle of a shower, it's not just your bad luck. It's the ghost General Neyland. He's plays a mean game of chess and you're his opponent. He ain't happy about your wimpy, disrespectful tone in that little article you wrote. He gonna get ya.
 
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onevol74 said:
"Third Saturday in October" is a rivalry in name only. Not one time since 1967 or 1968 has the UT-Bama game meant anything to a conference championship. Since that time one team or the other has been dominant and the other team in a depression.
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That's just not true. Off the top of my head . . . 85, 91, 92, 93, 96, 99 and 02 - both teams were very relevant nationally. And I'm too young to remember it, but I'd bet that there were a couple of years in the early 70s where we were both top 10 teams.
 
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Once the pendulum swings back our direction, and it will if history is the best indicator of future performance, folks will regret not having Bama as the rival they have always been. Once the Vols begin beating them regularly they stop being able to go to the SEC Championship game as often due to the loss and any others they rack up.

Rivalries within conferences have made college football into what it is today. Having divisions within a conference should not stop major rivalries from continuing. It's not the NFL where you have 4 divisions in each conference where you have to figure out how to schedule them.

I strongly support 9 games with one rivalry. I have no desire to see our Vols play Austin Peay, Western KY, South Alabama, etc. None. I know they need a couple breathers, but playing 4 patsies to just get selected for any silly, minor game is a crock as much as it costs to attend those games. If the team is good enough they will work their way through the schedule with one loss or less and make it into the SECCG and possibly the playoff regardless of who they have to play as a rival.
 
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you don't kill a rivalry because it's one sided at a given point in time.

by decade since the 70's.

70's bama 9-1
80's bama 6-4
90's tenn 5-4-1
00's tied 5-5
10's bama 3-0

so, except for the 70's and right now, it's been pretty competitive
 
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the one way for people to shut about this is for tennessee to beat florida.

that way lsu doesn't have a complaint
 
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That is a ridiculous article. BUT I disagree with the people that point to history as the reason why. I think it's silly because of what we have NOW-great facilities, improved recruiting, etc.
I believe the historical argument is flawed because the BCS, tv money, etc. has changed the game
 
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This article is crap. You don't hear anybody complaining about the Florida/FSU or USC/Notre Dame rivalry - even though both of those have seen lop sided periods of time.
 
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This is a case of an AL.com reporter trolling both fan bases for clicks. I mean him saying "just because it was important to General Neyland and Bear Bryant..." is pretty darn revealing of his motives.
 
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"Not to go all Sesame Street on you..." can certainly tell this guy is just an awesome sports writer.:salute:
 
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The arrogance of certain Alabama fans, and apparently a bunch of LSU fans, is astounding. It's amazing that some of these guys can act like the one decade where they both had Nick Saban is the norm.
 
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99gator said:
you don't kill a rivalry because it's one sided at a given point in time.

by decade since the 70's.

70's bama 10-0
80's bama 6-4
90's tenn 5-4-1
00's tied 5-5
10's bama 3-0

so, except for the 70's and right now, it's been pretty competitive
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We beat them in 1970.
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It amazes me how many people can't conceive how things could ever be different than how they are at this exact moment. Alabama is better than us right now so clearly they'll always be better and this game will always be a easy win for them. :crazy:
 
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99gator said:
the one way for people to shut about this is for tennessee to beat florida.

that way lsu doesn't have a complaint
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Why on earth does a florida fan spend more time on a UT web site than his own? The little wise cracks ...."for Tennessee to beat florida" make me sick. I can't wait till we get out of these dumb Dooley Years and start playing UT football! Because when we was rolling You gator lovers couldn't be found!
 
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I have never seen us beat Bama, but it's become my favourite game of the season. I would be absolutely gutted if we stopped playing them every year.
 
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