Titans Jake Locker to wear Vince Youngs #10

#28
#28
You might be right. I didn't want to see my team take a QB this year. That being said I wouldn't be surprised to see Gabbert, or Locker do well, IF they are handled appropriately.

justingroves said:
If Locker busts, he won't look like a spoiled brat doing it.

I believe the entire 1st round of QBs from this draft will be looking like "infamously awful picks".

Ponder will get pushed into starting entirely too fast, Garrard will get shown the door and Gabbert will suck, Newton will fail and Locker will not do anything special.
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#29
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orangetanker11 said:
The Locker pick doesn't seem too popular with the fans. Reminds me of the Chris Johnson pick a few years ago. IIRC, during the 2008 draft the fans gave the Titans an F for the CJ pick.
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No matter 90% of fans don't know shat. I was flabbergasted when they took Johnson at first.
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#30
#30
bleedorange1983 said:
Yeah I am one of those suckers that bought a VY jersey. Good idea on recycling it, I was just gonna donate it to Goodwill or something. Maybe Locker can make us proud.
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A VY jersey might be cool again someday. Like, "look how cool of a Titans fan I am. You don't even remember VY"
 
#31
#31
Good lord this is just stoopid! So from now on when I see J. Locker in #10 jersey I will always think of Vince Young. Good grief. Just retire that stoopid jersey!
 
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MaehlMan said:
You'd really go so far as to say that there's "not a chance in hell?"
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Vince Young had the kind of epic flameout that can only come from having a piss-poor attitude like he had.

Locker was a largely mediocre QB with some clutch moments in the Pac-10, but as a hard skill set he's not significantly worse than VY coming out of college, but worse nonetheless. But Locker's intelligence and work ethic are not in question at; VY's very much was.

865dude said:
I watched a couple of his college games, and some highlights. He looks like a worse version of tebow.
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I agree that his skill set likely just simply isn't good enough for the NFL. Tebow and VY were borderline.

GahLee said:
There is always a chance that he is worse.

As bad as Young was at times, he had a pretty good record as a starter, I highly doubt that Locker will be able to match that record.

Like you stated earlier, it won't be the same kind of bust for Locker, he seems to be a really good kid and a hard worker, so it won't be an effort failure with him.

Accuracy is probably going to be his biggest problem, wasn't an accurate QB in the Pac-10, gotta have doubts he will fix that in the NFL.
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Agreed, but again poor attitude and poor work ethic are almost always the common thread among epic busts.

Kingston Vol said:
Vince won ballgames...
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Hold the phone for a second... Let's look at this.

First, IIRC Young's record as a starter when he threw more than a few passes is only .500-something. So his record as a starter was not all that great; not shabby, but not great. The bulk of those wins came for that stretch in '09, only one of which was against a team over .500. CJ was averaging around 150 yards a game in those wins and was absolutely the best RB in the league at the time. Young played well in a run-first offense, and was asked to chuck it twice -- Once when they barely eeked out a win over Arizona at home, and a ten point loss to Indy on the road. Kerry Collins was what, 12-2 the season before? And he was the top dog, CJ didn't get more than a hundred yards in two or three of those games. The defense was beastly then, though.

IMO VY was only ever mediocre at best, and when he was winning he was riding the coattails of the rushing game. Other than that game against Indy in '06 where Bironas pegged the 60-yarder to win, I can't really think of any instances where VY was asked to strap the team to his back and win. If the running game was off, so was he and the Titans would lose.
 
#33
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VY had a win against the Texans his rookie year where he carried the team. (A sub .500 Texans team)

That is the only game where he did that IMO.
 
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justingroves said:
VY had a win against the Texans his rookie year where he carried the team. (A sub .500 Texans team)

That is the only game where he did that IMO.
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Didn't he win two games on long runs his rookie year?

Houston / Buffalo.

He was the rookie of the year. He could be a good player, but he's a whiney crybaby when he loses. :cray:

That said, I am not a Vince supporter. I am pumped for Locker. Dude is a beast, hope he can develop into a legit NFL QB.
 
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justingroves said:
VY had a win against the Texans his rookie year where he carried the team. (A sub .500 Texans team)

That is the only game where he did that IMO.
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The game against the Giants when they were down 21-0. He won that game by willing the team to victory on his own. That to me was the defining game of his career. I really thought the Titans had caught lightening in a bottle. Too bad it was a baby food bottle, with a faulty lid. Sigh.
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Escape Goat said:
The game against the Giants when they were down 21-0. He won that game by willing the team to victory on his own. That to me was the defining game of his career. I really thought the Titans had caught lightening in a bottle. Too bad it was a baby food bottle, with a faulty lid. Sigh.
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He won that game because Mathias Kiwanuka let him go.
 
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Jestes311 said:
Didn't he win two games on long runs his rookie year?

Houston / Buffalo.

He was the rookie of the year. He could be a good player, but he's a whiney crybaby when he loses. :cray:

That said, I am not a Vince supporter. I am pumped for Locker. Dude is a beast, hope he can develop into a legit NFL QB.
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I believe you're right about Buffalo but they are perennial bottom feeders too.
 
#41
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Escape Goat said:
The game against the Giants when they were down 21-0. He won that game by willing the team to victory on his own. That to me was the defining game of his career. I really thought the Titans had caught lightening in a bottle. Too bad it was a baby food bottle, with a faulty lid. Sigh.
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That game was a whole lot of Pac Man too.
 
#42
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justingroves said:
Vince made 2 plays all game.

CJ kept the Titans in it.
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This is what I'm saying. Kerry Collins amassed a crazy record over part of a season because the Titans had an easy schedule and a badass defense, Vince Young amassed a really good record over part of a season because he had the best running game in the League behind him.
 
#46
#46
Burhead said:
VY's career was always like that; he do something amazing on one play and then throw the ball 10ft over the receiver's head on the next. Personally I'm glad we're done with him.
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Agree. He was a good pick at the time. We gave him a shot and it never got to the next level. It was time to fish or cut bait and the team felt it was time to move on. I was ready to give him a shot because there were flashes of greatness but there were also signs of mediorcity that couldnt be ignored. In the end time to move on.
 
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GreveHaller said:
Agree. He was a good pick at the time. We gave him a shot and it never got to the next level. It was time to fish or cut bait and the team felt it was time to move on. I was ready to give him a shot because there were flashes of greatness but there were also signs of mediorcity that couldnt be ignored. In the end time to move on.
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Well said
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GreveHaller said:
Agree. He was a good pick at the time. We gave him a shot and it never got to the next level. It was time to fish or cut bait and the team felt it was time to move on. I was ready to give him a shot because there were flashes of greatness but there were also signs of mediorcity that couldnt be ignored. In the end time to move on.
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Even then, he was a terrible pick. Still don't know why they didn't draft Cutler or another position
 
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shortgameVol said:
Even then, he was a terrible pick. Still don't know why they didn't draft Cutler or another position
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Why didnt they draft Cutler?? Its easy to have hindsight over the picks but you gotta put yourself in that position.

Houston had already nabbed Mario Williams early which left the Saints then the Titans. That's the #3 pick. On the table was Heisman winner Reggie Bush, former Heisman winner Matt Leinhart, and VY fresh off his winning run for Texas and the NC. Saints take Bush. With McNair getting older and a bit less reliable due to injuries it was time to explore QBs therefore the choices were The above two, Cutler, then a bunch of so-so players.

What's the difference in the three?

Matt- Heisman trophy winner in his Jr year. Led a team to the National Championship

Vince - runner up for Heisman. Led his team to the National Championship

and then there Jay

*never played in a bowl game
*never played on a team that had a record above .500

Compared to the other two, it would have been an outrage to take Jay at the #3 pick over those proven winners.

Now, some years later it might have worked out better taking Jay than the other two but you never know that at the time.
 
#50
#50
I got into some epic battles on here at the time for saying VY would be a bust.
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