Titans QB future

#26
#26
justingroves said:
Some team will fall in love with him and take him before the 8th pick.

That being said, he's a colossal bust waiting to happen.
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He is predicted to go before then at this point. I don't see where everyone is getting this from. What do you have to back this up? Because VY was a bust or what? Or is it because he used his legs a lot? IF Tebow can do it so can he. Newton is just as hard of a worker as Timmy.
 
#27
#27
CameronGrizzy said:
He is predicted to go before then at this point. I don't see where everyone is getting this from. What do you have to back this up? Because VY was a bust or what? Or is it because he used his legs a lot? IF Tebow can do it so can he. Newton is just as hard of a worker as Timmy.
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I don't know why everyone is so sure he will be a bust. He has a great throwing motion and throws a pretty good ball and nothing he has done shows me that he has a bad work ethic. I just don't see where people think that he well definitely be a bust.
 
#28
#28
BigOrange15 said:
I don't know why everyone is so sure he will be a bust. He has a great throwing motion and throws a pretty good ball and nothing he has done shows me that he has a bad work ethic. I just don't see where people think that he well definitely be a bust.
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Thank you. If thats someones prediction thats fine, they might end up being right. He has been working with a lot of good QBs since he left. Warren Moon has said nothing but good things about him, Brett Farve might be his mentor... which could be good or bad. just depends. But yeah the throwing motion is right. And he's shown he can handle a dramatic change in skill level.. it just depends how well he does going into the NFL. I think the Titans will be lucky if he is left by the time their pick is up, depending on how he does on the QB IQ test and the rest of the time leading up to the draft.
 
#29
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CameronGrizzy said:
He is predicted to go before then at this point. I don't see where everyone is getting this from. What do you have to back this up? Because VY was a bust or what? Or is it because he used his legs a lot? IF Tebow can do it so can he. Newton is just as hard of a worker as Timmy.
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How many spread type QBs are successful once they have to learn more than 15 plays?

How many are successful once they start taking snaps from under center?

Auburn's O worked because every play you had to worry about run first, pass second. Every play is set up to be play action.

An NFL team isn't going to let a 40 million dollar investment run around.

He's going to have to spend a lot of time and work to get better at things he's never really been asked to do.
 
#30
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justingroves said:
How many spread type QBs are successful once they have to learn more than 15 plays?

How many are successful once they start taking snaps from under center?

Auburn's O worked because every play you had to worry about run first, pass second. Every play is set up to be play action.

An NFL team isn't going to let a 40 million dollar investment run around.

He's going to have to spend a lot of time and work to get better at things he's never really been asked to do.
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He's been practicing at that. You say it like every QB who was quick footed in college can't make the transition. Steve Young, Aaron Rogers, Michael Vick, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Tim Tebow, and the list goes on. Its not impossible. If the % was so bad in that type of QB not making the transition and if he didn't have so many plus sides he wouldn't be predicted to go so high.
 
#31
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CameronGrizzy said:
He's been practicing at that. You say it like every QB who was quick footed in college can't make the transition. Steve Young, Aaron Rogers, Michael Vick, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Tim Tebow, and the list goes on. Its not impossible. If the % was so bad in that type of QB not making the transition and if he didn't have so many plus sides he wouldn't be predicted to go so high.
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How many of those people played in spread offenses? You think Newton is the next Sam Bradford?
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#32
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CameronGrizzy said:
He's been practicing at that. You say it like every QB who was quick footed in college can't make the transition. Steve Young, Aaron Rogers, Michael Vick, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman, Tim Tebow, and the list goes on. Its not impossible. If the % was so bad in that type of QB not making the transition and if he didn't have so many plus sides he wouldn't be predicted to go so high.
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Steve Young didn't play in a spread option offense.

Aaron Rogers didn't play in a spread option offense.

Sam Bradford didn't play in a spread option offense.

Josh Freeman didn't play in a spread option offense.

Vick didn't really play in a spread option offense (he did do a whole lot of improv with his legs though).

Tim Tebow started the last what 5 games? He's far from a sure fire NFL star.

You're right that it's not impossible, it's just highly unlikely.

Look at a guy like Akili Smith. That's who Newton is most like or maybe Shaun King
 
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#33
#33
So just because he played in a Spread means he can't make the adjustment... Other than him playing in the spread offense on a team where he was far on another level than everyone else on it. Why can't he make it in the NFL. He's got good steps, good motion, and is a hard worker. I think calling him a flat out for sure bust is a bold statement. He has a lot of upside potential and just because his offense spread the field doesn't mean he can't make the transition. Like I said VY did okay and he if fields above better than him.


& yeah those were bad examples by me. please excuse. Drew Brees and Big Ben were in the spread in college so those are better examples.
 
#34
#34
CameronGrizzy said:
So just because he played in a Spread means he can't make the adjustment... Other than him playing in the spread offense on a team where he was far on another level than everyone else on it. Why can't he make it in the NFL. He's got good steps, good motion, and is a hard worker. I think calling him a flat out for sure bust is a bold statement. He has a lot of upside potential and just because his offense spread the field doesn't mean he can't make the transition. Like I said VY did okay and he if fields above better than him.


& yeah those were bad examples by me. please excuse. Drew Brees and Big Ben were in the spread in college so those are better examples.
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I'm not saying he can't but but the odds are stacked way against him.

You've seen him practice?

VY did okay? Really?

Brees and Ben were not spread option QBs.
 
#35
#35
I want Patrick Peterson or Von miller with the 8th pick but think both will be off the board by then.

It's a good thing for the Titans if Cam does get drafted before 8. That is one less pick in front of them taking someone they actually want.
 
#36
#36
I saw the Titans selecting Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara in a believe Todd Mcshay's mock draft. I know mock drafts are just for entertainment but i wouldn't mind that pick either.
 
#37
#37
justingroves said:
I'm not saying he can't but but the odds are stacked way against him.

You've seen him practice?

VY did okay? Really?

Brees and Ben were not spread option QBs.
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Miami Oh while Ben was there ran the spread and without a doubt Purdue ran the spread during Bree's era before and after.

& I've read and heard about what ppl say about the work he's been doing since leaving Auburn.

&& Yes VY did okay. He didn't do amazing but there were stretches where he showed he had potential he was just to much of a head case. Which we should have know considering how bad of a score he got on that test.
 
#38
#38
615 Vol said:
I saw the Titans selecting Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara in a believe Todd Mcshay's mock draft. I know mock drafts are just for entertainment but i wouldn't mind that pick either.
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Me either. He is a good lock down CB. A standout WR would be nice too. IF A.J. Green was open I'd be okay with that. Blaine has a lot of upside too. I think I'd rather have him than Newton even tho he has great upside. Robert Quinn is prob our best shot. He has the best chance to come in from the git go and start busting heads.
 
#39
#39
Why would we draft a WR...or a DE like Quinn...what were our last two first round picks again?
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#40
#40
CameronGrizzy said:
Miami Oh while Ben was there ran the spread and without a doubt Purdue ran the spread during Bree's era before and after.

& I've read and heard about what ppl say about the work he's been doing since leaving Auburn.

&& Yes VY did okay. He didn't do amazing but there were stretches where he showed he had potential he was just to much of a head case. Which we should have know considering how bad of a score he got on that test.
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Do you know what a spread option is? Apparently not.

Pandering to ESPN cameras isn't "hard work".

Vince Young was a bust. When you draft a QB that high, he shouldn't be sitting behind Kerry Collins. He shouldn't have a terrible record against decent teams.
 
#41
#41
615 Vol said:
I saw the Titans selecting Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara in a believe Todd Mcshay's mock draft. I know mock drafts are just for entertainment but i wouldn't mind that pick either.
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That is my prediction, I'd love to see us take him and then draft Dalton in the 2nd round.
 
#46
#46
Do not take Gabbert, do not take Newton. Both will be bustoooooo.

I like Mallett in this draft. Locker, Ponder, etc.
 
#47
#47
BigOrange15 said:
Why exactly?
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He's a carbon copy of Vince Young. I'd hope they'd move away from that type of QB. Cam did more damage with his legs and so did Vince.

They'll try to make a pocket passer out of him and have him read defenses, he'll fail at that. I don't want to watch him try to figure it out for 4 years until they trade him.:thumbsup:
 
#50
#50
Cartervol said:
He's a carbon copy of Vince Young. I'd hope they'd move away from that type of QB. Cam did more damage with his legs and so did Vince.

They'll try to make a pocket passer out of him and have him read defenses, he'll fail at that. I don't want to watch him try to figure it out for 4 years until they trade him.:thumbsup:
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carbon copy? I feel like thats very untrue. and VY could of done it if he wasn't so dumb. It was apparent on the QB test. UNLESS Cam has the same low score I don't see him flopping like the Texas Boy. Only think that is a Carbon Copy is that they are both black. :p Annnndddd on top of all that. Cam has better stats, played in a harder conference, and has better technique and form. Enuff Said.
 
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