TN and UConn in talks to resume series

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armchair said:
are /good/ coaches based on the fact that they are a div. 1 coach? If so, you haven't been around too many coaches. UT is a Mercedes program with Buick coaches--and that was true for the last decade or so of PS's run. The performances speak for themselves. If that fact bothers you, or my saying it bothers you, don't read my posts.
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You are entitled to whatever ridiculous opinions you want to hold, sweetie. It's a free country. You are not entitled to call your opinions facts, though, because they most assuredly are not.

And no, I don't believe all Division 1 coaches are good coaches, though all of them have obviously made it farther in their career evolution as coaches than you have. So . . . I do, however, believe Holly Warlick is a very good coach who will get even better with more experience and a bit more time to step outside of Pat Summitt's shadow. Frankly, I think you have some sort of irrational problem with CHW that goes beyond your mere OPINION that "she can't coach." You wouldn't froth at the mouth every time you have a chance to discuss what you perceive to be her coaching inadequacies if you didn't. *shrug*

Oh, and just for future reference, irrelevant opinions expressed by irrelevant people don't bother me at all. Chances are that I will continue to read what you post. I like to witness a good internet discussion forum meltdown every now and then as much as anybody. It's entertaining.
 
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btate said:
Holly do not renew playing Geno, as he will make a fool out you.
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Must you post your dislike of Warlick every day on every thread? We all know your feelings. Negative statements sure don't help with any potential recruits who might visit this board.
Oops. Thought this was an armchair post.
 
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In an interview with ESPN last year, Auriemma compared the UT-UConn rivalry in women’s basketball, as well as his association with Summitt, to some of the great rivalries in all of sport.

“Something stands the test of time because there was somebody else, like Tennessee was for Connecticut and Connecticut was for Tennessee, who made it matter just that little bit more — like Duke and North Carolina, Auburn and Alabama, or Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier,” he said.

“There is someone who pushes you to be better or achieve things you don’t know you could have achieved on your own. I like to think Pat and I did that for each other.”

In her 2013 autobiography “Sum It Up,” written with Sally Jenkins, Summitt said she and Auriemma “have recovered our friendship – and I do regard it as a friendship.”
 
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ruggy1 said:
You want to know your strengths? Play in the SEC.

You want to know your weaknesses? Play UConn.

John Adams: Lady Vols should put UConn back on schedule
here is a great link on GO VOLS

John Adams: Lady Vols should put UConn back on schedule » GoVolsXtra
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That column you linked was from three years ago. Even Tennessee fans I've talked to on this subject who have wanted the series resumed don't think it should be done unless Auriemma backs off his demand for an apology because that just won't happen nor should it...and let's face it - UConn is the team playing in a mid-major conference not Tennessee.
 
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i agree with you Sly,if He wants an apology he can kiss some Big Orange Ass First :)



and how are you doing ?
 
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Slydell said:
I'd really like to see UCONN play an SEC schedule. I think their SOS last year was 19 or 20 and Tennessee came in at 4 or 5. And, if an apology is required to add UCONN to the schedule, No, and Hell No.
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UConn could have played the #1 schedule and still would have blitzed through it. Look what they did to all of the top ten teams they played.

Yeah, it s great that Tennessee played a tougher schedule. It would have been better if they actually won some of those games against top ten teams...
 
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Amb3096 said:
UConn could have played the #1 schedule and still would have blitzed through it. Look what they did to all of the top ten teams they played.

Yeah, it s great that Tennessee played a tougher schedule. It would have been better if they actually won some of those games against top ten teams...
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If UCONN could have played a tougher schedule, why didn't they? Or, why haven't they ever? No way to know what they would have done if they were pounded on game after game on a tougher schedule.
 
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Slydell said:
If UCONN could have played a tougher schedule, why didn't they? Or, why haven't they ever? No way to know what they would have done if they were pounded on game after game on a tougher schedule.
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In fairness, they do always play Stanford and try to play as many ACC teams as possible and played Baylor when they had Griner...What's dragging their strength of schedule down now is just how bad the AAC is. Hopefully that will start to hurt their recruiting over time...Now that Louisville is gone, that is a joke of a league except for UCONN.
 
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Slydell said:
If UCONN could have played a tougher schedule, why didn't they? Or, why haven't they ever? No way to know what they would have done if they were pounded on game after game on a tougher schedule.
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This was UConn's OOC schedule:
vs #3 Stanford (won by 19 without KML for most of game)
at #8 MD (won by 17 w/o KML)
@#13 PSU (won by 19 w/o KML)
@#2 Duke (won by 22)
vs. #21 Cal (won by 33)
@ #7 Baylor (won by 11)

This was Tennessee's:
@#12 UNC (won by 16)
@ #6 Stanford (lost by 6)
vs. #2 ND (lost by 16)

At some point you ignore what the computer spits out. Just the OOC schedule alone puts UConn in a whole new class as far as strength of schedule. They played 4 top 10 teams and won by average of about 18 pts per game vs. Tennessee's two losses. In conference, yes, Tennessee had on "paper" a tougher schedule, but none of the teams they played (or beat) was as good as the Louisville team that UConn drubbed three times.

UConn had more than their fair share of tough games. They had a bunch of cupcakes in their conference schedule, but so did Tennessee. The SEC cupcakes were just a "little" better. Tougher mid tier teams wouldn't have mattered to UConn (look what they've done to BEast teams not named ND in the past decade), and frankly, the Alabamas and Miss States of the SEC had no business hanging around with Tennessee as long as they did...which says more about Tennessee's tendency to play down to their opponents.

In all honesty, they don't really get anything out of playing Tennessee because they are no better or worse than scheduling a team like Penn State at this moment. Maybe that will change in the next few years. When Tennessee starts putting together better teams or UConn starts struggling to schedule OOC games, then maybe it's a different story, but for right now, UConn doesn't need Tennessee on their schedule.
 
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Amb3096 said:
This was UConn's OOC schedule:
vs #3 Stanford (won by 19 without KML for most of game)
at #8 MD (won by 17 w/o KML)
@#13 PSU (won by 19 w/o KML)
@#2 Duke (won by 22)
vs. #21 Cal (won by 33)
@ #7 Baylor (won by 11)

This was Tennessee's:
@#12 UNC (won by 16)
@ #6 Stanford (lost by 6)
vs. #2 ND (lost by 16)

At some point you ignore what the computer spits out. Just the OOC schedule alone puts UConn in a whole new class as far as strength of schedule. They played 4 top 10 teams and won by average of about 18 pts per game vs. Tennessee's two losses. In conference, yes, Tennessee had on "paper" a tougher schedule, but none of the teams they played (or beat) was as good as the Louisville team that UConn drubbed three times.

UConn had more than their fair share of tough games. They had a bunch of cupcakes in their conference schedule, but so did Tennessee. The SEC cupcakes were just a "little" better. Tougher mid tier teams wouldn't have mattered to UConn (look what they've done to BEast teams not named ND in the past decade), and frankly, the Alabamas and Miss States of the SEC had no business hanging around with Tennessee as long as they did...which says more about Tennessee's tendency to play down to their opponents.

In all honesty, they don't really get anything out of playing Tennessee because they are no better or worse than scheduling a team like Penn State at this moment. Maybe that will change in the next few years. When Tennessee starts putting together better teams or UConn starts struggling to schedule OOC games, then maybe it's a different story, but for right now, UConn doesn't need Tennessee on their schedule.
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That is where we will strongly disagree...In terms of prestige of programs and the mere history of the series that is just dead wrong. None of the OOC games you referenced would move the needle of tv ratings anything close to UT/UConn. It is ridiculous to compare the likes of Penn State to UT in terms of what it means to win the game...regardless of the current condition of the two rosters.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is where we will strongly disagree...In terms of prestige of programs and the mere history of the series that is just dead wrong. None of the OOC games you referenced would move the needle of tv ratings anything close to UT/UConn. It is ridiculous to compare the likes of Penn State to UT in terms of what it means to win the game...regardless of the current condition of the two rosters.
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In terms of ratings, you are absolutely right. A game between the two programs is good for the sport, but what does UConn as a program get out of it? If they are looking for OOC competition, they get that with or without Tennessee on the schedule. As far as meaning, if Tennessee was on their schedule this year, then Duke or Stanford still would have been bigger scalps for UConn. Tennessee has been stuck in middle of the pack for some time. A win over them doesn't have the same impact as it used to, because they don't beat the elite teams anymore and lose to most top ten teams. When they reverse this trend, then the game will mean something more than high tv ratings.
 
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Amb3096 said:
In terms of ratings, you are absolutely right. A game between the two programs is good for the sport, but what does UConn as a program get out of it? If they are looking for OOC competition, they get that with or without Tennessee on the schedule. As far as meaning, if Tennessee was on their schedule this year, then Duke or Stanford still would have been bigger scalps for UConn. Tennessee has been stuck in middle of the pack for some time. A win over them doesn't have the same impact as it used to, because they don't beat the elite teams anymore and lose to most top ten teams. When they reverse this trend, then the game will mean something more than high tv ratings.
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Again, we strongly disagree that the Sweet 16 is the "middle of the pack" and I don't buy that Duke is a "bigger scalp" than Tenn...Stanford would be this year but that is still not seeing the big picture...Women's bball has plateau'd largely because nobody talks about the regular season anymore...That does hurt everyone but UConn has more to worry about in terms of national exposure going forward than Tenn does...especially after Auriemma retires and their brand starts to morph into that of their conference.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Again, we strongly disagree that the Sweet 16 is the "middle of the pack" and I don't buy that Duke is a "bigger scalp" than Tenn...Stanford would be this year but that is still not seeing the big picture...Women's bball has plateau'd largely because nobody talks about the regular season anymore...That does hurt everyone but UConn has more to worry about in terms of national exposure going forward than Tenn does...especially after Auriemma retires and their brand starts to morph into that of their conference.
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I'm sorry, but by Tennessee standards, Sweet 16 is middle of the pack. Maybe it's good for other schools, but it shouldn't be seen as an accomplishment for Tennessee. It used to be unusual for them not to make the Final Four, so no way should we (as a fanbase) be settling for Sweet 16s...especially when the team has Final Four talent.

UConn is in the driver's seat until a.) top teams stop scheduling them in OOC and b.) they can't get into a major conference. In spite of how much we would like it, they aren't going to fade into irrelevance. They are going to a major conference; it's just a matter of where or when.

Geno was basically spitting in Tennessee's face with this whole exchange. The inference that he's even asking Tennessee to schedule them is way off. He knows UConn doesn't need Tennessee at this point, so this is all just another one of his media jabs.
 
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Amb3096 said:
UConn could have played the #1 schedule and still would have blitzed through it. Look what they did to all of the top ten teams they played.

Yeah, it s great that Tennessee played a tougher schedule. It would have been better if they actually won some of those games against top ten teams...
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good post:whistling:
 
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Amb3096 said:
UConn could have played the #1 schedule and still would have blitzed through it. Look what they did to all of the top ten teams they played.

Yeah, it s great that Tennessee played a tougher schedule. It would have been better if they actually won some of those games against top ten teams...
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my Favorite post, and to think I watch most of the games too.too bad tho ,I was looking for you make it farther than you did.What a game that would have been.
 
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ruggy1 said:
my Favorite post, and to think I watch most of the games too.too bad tho ,I was looking for you make it farther than you did.What a game that would have been.
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I'm not. I wouldn't want to see Tennessee lose by 30 to UConn.

Next year and the year after (if they get Diamond), then I think Tennessee would be able to be more competitive.
 
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well Holly not doing that bad for only her second year,I think IMO that in two years more LV gona be tough...



2012-13 Season
Record: 27-8
SEC Finish: 14-2/1st
Postseason: Elite 8
Coach: Holly Warlick (1st season


2013-14 Season
Record: 29-6
SEC Finish: 13-3/2nd
Postseason: Sweet 16
Coach: Holly Warlick (2nd season)

2011-12 Season
Record: 27-9
SEC Finish: 12-4/2nd
Postseason: Elite 8
Coach: Pat Summitt (38th season)



2008-09 Season
Record: 22-11
SEC Finish: 9-5/t4th
Postseason: NCAA 1st Round
Coach: Pat Summitt (35th season)




it's time to give Holly a break
 
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Would anyone like to dig up UCONN's SOS vs Lady Vols SOS for last year or the past several years? Or, does SOS not matter anymore? Just curious. Too tired of the BS and too lazy to dig right now. All I know is the only team for me is the Lady Vols and any other team is not a consideration to me. UT doesn't need UCONN for any reason and UCONN doesn't need Tennessee. Should just leave it at that.
 
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Slydell said:
Would anyone like to dig up UCONN's SOS vs Lady Vols SOS for last year or the past several years? Or, does SOS not matter anymore? Just curious. Too tired of the BS and too lazy to dig right now. All I know is the only team for me is the Lady Vols and any other team is not a consideration to me. UT doesn't need UCONN for any reason and UCONN doesn't need Tennessee. Should just leave it at that.
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No. SOS doesn't really matter and never has. The only time it matters is when arguing for tournament seeding.
 
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I expected that. It was always relevant before some entity decided it wasn't. Seems to be a good measurement to me, though.
 
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