'22 TN DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)

[jakez4ut]

Feel like we would have a better shot if he wasn't going to Powell. If he has any urge to see something new in college and he has the chance to go anywhere in the country, UT won't be it.

...said every prospect worth a darn from the state of Tennessee.


















amirite? did i do it right?

 

[Jerseydevilvol16]

What the hell is a jamboree? We don't have anything like that in Jersey or most of the North. I mean obviously it's scrimmages, but wouldn't it be showing your cards to alot of teams before the season starts?

 

[Dudleys87]

What the hell is a jamboree? We don't have anything like that in Jersey or most of the North. I mean obviously it's scrimmages, but wouldn't it be showing your cards to alot of teams before the season starts?

In the grand scheme of things I guess you could say that but all the ones I’ve been to you normally have a bunch of teams scrimmage each other that normally wouldn’t. Showcased games that are nothing more than practices with fans and concessions.

 

[Dudleys87]

Feel like we would have a better shot if he wasn't going to Powell. If he has any urge to see something new in college and he has the chance to go anywhere in the country, UT won't be it.

The staffs and not being worth a damn are the reasons Tennessee doesent get top recruits to stay home. You either lie your ass off or your one hell of a salesman. Hopefully CJH can change that course and get instate kids to stay home.

 

[Devo182]

His dad talking. Says playing at Powell has nothing to do with UT. Recent "top 3" was his recent favorites...not necessarily his top 3. Says every school has called him thinking he's coming to UT because he's at HS in Knoxville. Bama is the only school that isn't panicking. Tifwiw

The race for five-star DL Walter Nolen is far from over

 

[swchandler1988]

So bama is who our competition. Panicking isn’t attractive to anyone being courted lol semi serious

 

[JRVOL11]

This will be a very long & interesting recruitment.

 

[Devo182]

So bama is who our competition. Panicking isn’t attractive to anyone being courted lol semi serious

Yeah semi serious is right. His dad's quotes seem to say the other seem pretty desperate. At least we aren't one of the stage 5 clingers.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Feel like we would have a better shot if he wasn't going to Powell. If he has any urge to see something new in college and he has the chance to go anywhere in the country, UT won't be it.

 

[m1al]

What the hell is a jamboree? We don't have anything like that in Jersey or most of the North. I mean obviously it's scrimmages, but wouldn't it be showing your cards to alot of teams before the season starts?

Back in my day it was basically a big conference scrimmage that kicked off the season, with maybe a punt, pass and kick competition thrown in. And no, you wouldn't "show your cards" unless you're not very smart..

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

Knox Powell plays @ Science Hill in Johnson City on September 10th for the ones in the tri cities area who would like to watch Nolen play.

I'll be there for sure!

 

[Big Gucci Sosa]

The biggest name on the board is Walter Nolen. The big fella wasn’t able to scrimmage at Farragut on Tuesday. He has made it through acclimation and will be able to get some work in at Neyland in the Knox County jamboree later tonight. Both he and his younger brother Warren will be on the field for Powell. Rodney Garner has continued to put in work and Tennessee certainly is climbing here. By no means is this some done deal, but Nolen sees the potential from a development standpoint with Garner and the potential NIL possibilities from playing in-state. Either way, this one has a long way to go.
VQ

 

[84Volfan]

The biggest name on the board is Walter Nolen. The big fella wasn’t able to scrimmage at Farragut on Tuesday. He has made it through acclimation and will be able to get some work in at Neyland in the Knox County jamboree later tonight. Both he and his younger brother Warren will be on the field for Powell. Rodney Garner has continued to put in work and Tennessee certainly is climbing here. By no means is this some done deal, but Nolen sees the potential from a development standpoint with Garner and the potential NIL possibilities from playing in-state. Either way, this one has a long way to go.
VQ

He gone

 

[T2P_Priceless]

The biggest name on the board is Walter Nolen. The big fella wasn’t able to scrimmage at Farragut on Tuesday. He has made it through acclimation and will be able to get some work in at Neyland in the Knox County jamboree later tonight. Both he and his younger brother Warren will be on the field for Powell. Rodney Garner has continued to put in work and Tennessee certainly is climbing here. By no means is this some done deal, but Nolen sees the potential from a development standpoint with Garner and the potential NIL possibilities from playing in-state. Either way, this one has a long way to go.
VQ

BGS on board?!?!? He’s a Vol for sure, Boom!!!

 

[onevol74]

I have always thought the NIL would be more immediate and impactful at UT than sitting on the Bama bench for 2 years.

 

[CobbVol]

The biggest name on the board is Walter Nolen. The big fella wasn’t able to scrimmage at Farragut on Tuesday. He has made it through acclimation and will be able to get some work in at Neyland in the Knox County jamboree later tonight. Both he and his younger brother Warren will be on the field for Powell. Rodney Garner has continued to put in work and Tennessee certainly is climbing here. By no means is this some done deal, but Nolen sees the potential from a development standpoint with Garner and the potential NIL possibilities from playing in-state. Either way, this one has a long way to go.
VQ

I could see the nervousness Garner was causing you with this recruit weeks ago.

 

[Geaux_Vols]

I have always thought the NIL would be more immediate and impactful at UT than sitting on the Bama bench for 2 years.

BAMA’s perceived starter, who has thrown less than 25 passes in his career, is near one million NIL dollars already. We don’t have a NIL advantage over any other major school, especially those in the running for the #2 player in the country.

 

[cncchris33]

BAMA’s perceived starter, who has thrown less than 25 passes in his career, is near one million NIL dollars already. We don’t have a NIL advantage over any other major school, especially those in the running for the #2 player in the country.

In general, I think you're right. The difference here is that Bryce Young was a former #1 overall recruit, he plays QB, and is the upcoming "face of the franchise", so to speak, at Bama.

At Bama, a freshman DT is likely to got lost in the sea of other 5* players; perhaps the lone downside to having so much talent.

At Tennessee, Nolen is the biggest thing going the second he steps on campus, not only because he is a tremendous talent and the highest rated player to have signed in forever, but also because he is an in-state kid. People and boosters, right or wrong, feel a closer connection to him for that reason.

Tennessee has to be selling him on the idea that he is just another cog in the wheel at Bama and that the benefits of a highly-ranked in-state kid signing with the state school has benefits that last well beyond his playing career if he develops and succeeds at Tennessee. That isn't new. What is new is the kind of endorsements and NIL deals he can generate immediately. Not every Bama player is signing Bryce Young-level deals, and his are almost entirely relative to the position he plays. If Nolen played QB, or even an offensive skill position, I think you'd have a stronger argument.

 

[onevol74]

BAMA’s perceived starter, who has thrown less than 25 passes in his career, is near one million NIL dollars already. We don’t have a NIL advantage over any other major school, especially those in the running for the #2 player in the country.

If you think a freshman DT is going to earn franchise player NIL at ANY school you are wrong. Plus the kid would be playing behind other 5 stars. His starting and publicity potential at a school like UT is significantly higher. Thus, improving his NIL potential much sooner than trying to move through the depth chart of 5 stars.

 

[TrippieRedd]

I'll see dude next week. He will prob tell me Vol again.

 

[Geaux_Vols]

In general, I think you're right. The difference here is that Bryce Young was a former #1 overall recruit, he plays QB, and is the upcoming "face of the franchise", so to speak, at Bama.

At Bama, a freshman DT is likely to got lost in the sea of other 5* players; perhaps the lone downside to having so much talent.

At Tennessee, Nolen is the biggest thing going the second he steps on campus, not only because he is a tremendous talent and the highest rated player to have signed in forever, but also because he is an in-state kid. People and boosters, right or wrong, feel a closer connection to him for that reason.

Tennessee has to be selling him on the idea that he is just another cog in the wheel at Bama and that the benefits of a highly-ranked in-state kid signing with the state school has benefits that last well beyond his playing career if he develops and succeeds at Tennessee. That isn't new. What is new is the kind of endorsements and NIL deals he can generate immediately. Not every Bama player is signing Bryce Young-level deals, and his are almost entirely relative to the position he plays. If Nolen played QB, or even an offensive skill position, I think you'd have a stronger argument.

The comparison isn't between QB money and DL money, its "will a DL make dramatically more NIL money at UT than at a place like Bama" and there just isn't any proof that will be the case. There IS proof that a non-instate, highly ranked kid can make large sums of money at Bama without really seeing the field. Its not really that relevant at all other than to dispel the idea that he'd make substantially more money at UT than he would any where else. Other teams are already showing what kind of money they can pull in for their players. We haven't. Its just not a strong argument.

The "lost in a sea of 5 stars" thing has just never held water. Top players in the country overwhelmingly go to schools where competition for spots is higher, not the other way around. They want competition because they've been better than everyone they've played with their entire lives, and think college won't be any different. And because people have been trying to use this pitch forever against Bama, Saban has a counter-argument, which was leaked not long ago and went viral.

In the clip, which runs 2 minutes 19 seconds, Saban cites Alabama’s impressive run of national championships and players selected in the NFL Draft before pushing back on a common negative recruiting pitch used against the Crimson Tide. Saban notes that some schools will tell prospects they would play elsewhere before they would see the field at UA.

Saban calls the cited negative pitch “insulting,” telling the recruit, “I wouldn’t be sitting here talking to you if you couldn’t play here.” He follows up by telling the prospect that a pitch of “you can play at our place before you play at Alabama” is the other school, “just telling you that Alabama’s better.”

From there, Saban tells the recruit that Alabama players would tell him that the competition made them better, citing examples of Marlon Humphrey, Amari Cooper, Cam Robinson and Jonathan Allen competing daily in practice.

I'm not saying we can't land Nolen, but I am saying the NIL and early playing time pitches won't be effective for the top players in the country because the top schools can all the say the same things, AND they're already winning.

Our pitch has to be RODNEY GARNER will prepare you for the league better than anyone else in the country and he has the track record to prove it. Its our most convincing and most unique pitch.

 

[tnhunter 10]

Give Garner a lifelong contract.

 

[Geaux_Vols]

Give Garner a lifelong contract.

100%.

 

[TrippieRedd]

Give Garner a lifelong contract.

two lifetime contracts, that way he is reincarnated as Godney Rarner

 

[JacketVol]

The biggest name on the board is Walter Nolen. The big fella wasn’t able to scrimmage at Farragut on Tuesday. He has made it through acclimation and will be able to get some work in at Neyland in the Knox County jamboree later tonight. Both he and his younger brother Warren will be on the field for Powell. Rodney Garner has continued to put in work and Tennessee certainly is climbing here. By no means is this some done deal, but Nolen sees the potential from a development standpoint with Garner and the potential NIL possibilities from playing in-state. Either way, this one has a long way to go.
VQ

Like I said before. It depends what we show on the field.