TN LV: Holly Warlick Should officially be on the HOT Seat

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bigsteve13 said:
I'm clueless. Maybe I'll stick around so that I can learn from you guys.

Such a fun group.
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You're not gonna learn a lot here unless you are interested in writing the same anti-coach rhetoric over and over and are looking for clues on how you can do it. Lots of examples here….
 
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VolFootballnut said:
A strong hire could have kept the LadyVols at the level Pat had them at. Hart should have taken the responsibility for hiring the next LadyVols coach and not let Pat name her successor.
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Are you on record with that sentiment prior to her hire, Nostradamus? Holly's defacto-1st year as HC when Pat was on the bench was arguably promising. To opine that Hart, new to the scene, would block the Pat-to-Holly slamdunk borders on the absurd.
 
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therealitytheory said:
Are you on record with that sentiment prior to her hire, Nostradamus? Holly's defacto-1st year as HC when Pat was on the bench was arguably promising. To opine that Hart, new to the scene, would block the Pat-to-Holly slamdunk borders on the absurd.
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That is correct. And the team actually looked better on the offensive side in Holly's first year as the lone HC. And I still think last season was an achievement given the injuries.

So that is the mystery of this season. Perhaps, Pat had laid down a foundation of fundamental skills and mindsets that Holly could build on. This team is now totally her group and something seems to be missing.
 
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therealitytheory said:
Are you on record with that sentiment prior to her hire, Nostradamus? Holly's defacto-1st year as HC when Pat was on the bench was arguably promising. To opine that Hart, new to the scene, would block the Pat-to-Holly slamdunk borders on the absurd.
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Warlick was a LONG way from a slamdunk hire, if that was your point. An assistant who was 3rd on the bench, had no head-coaching experience, and not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer? I worried the first time I heard her in an interview--extremely nervous, reminded me of Dan Quayle, the unknown Indiana congressman who was picked, out of the blue, be to the GOP VP candidate years ago and was not exactly ready for prime time. He proved a disaster, and so has HW, even if her four-year record suggests otherwise. PS never really had a good coaching tree in the way that some long-running great coaches do. This is a program that needed a coaching with head experience--not an on-the-job, over the head trainee.
 
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armchair said:
Warlick was a LONG way from a slamdunk hire, if that was your point. An assistant who was 3rd on the bench, had no head-coaching experience, and not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer? I worried the first time I heard her in an interview--extremely nervous, reminded me of Dan Quayle, the unknown Indiana congressman who was picked, out of the blue, be to the GOP VP candidate years ago and was not exactly ready for prime time. He proved a disaster, and so has HW, even if her four-year record suggests otherwise. PS never really had a good coaching tree in the way that some long-running great coaches do. This is a program that needed a coaching with head experience--not an on-the-job, over the head trainee.
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You might want to recheck your facts a bit. Holly was indeed the associate Head Coach in CPS's last season and CPS later said that Holly did most of the work. So, she was not the third coach on the bench but CPS's choice over Dean and the other assistant options.
 
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Facts are irrelevant when one is only looking to advance their agenda. I've been reading Armchair posts for at least a couple of years and what you see is what you get.
 
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armchair said:
Warlick was a LONG way from a slamdunk hire, if that was your point. An assistant who was 3rd on the bench, had no head-coaching experience, and not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer? I worried the first time I heard her in an interview--extremely nervous, reminded me of Dan Quayle, the unknown Indiana congressman who was picked, out of the blue, be to the GOP VP candidate years ago and was not exactly ready for prime time. He proved a disaster, and so has HW, even if her four-year record suggests otherwise. PS never really had a good coaching tree in the way that some long-running great coaches do. This is a program that needed a coaching with head experience--not an on-the-job, over the head trainee.
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Holly was the acting HC in Pat's last season on the bench, so you're "3rd assistant" label is a little off.

I just wanted to make the case for Hart that he was new to the scene and in not a good position to go against Pat's choice for a successor. A no-win predicament if you will.

I wanted a national search back in 2012, and so did you and many others. Ce le vie.
 
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no win predicament?

He could have hired a three legged goat to baa out "I just don't know" for a lot less $.
 
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bigsteve13 said:
Lady Vols fans are the whiniest bunch of babies in all of sport. I'm going to go ahead and compare you to post Nick Saban Alabama football. That's the level of obnoxious crying that goes on around this board. You had the greatest coach of ALL time. It will probably never reach those levels again because there will never be another Pat Summit or anything close. Deal with it and support the team.
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If this team showed any kind of effort on the floor, then I would slightly agree with some of what you're saying. However, this team receives no motivation from the coach and you can see that every time they play! I don't believe in being a "blind" fan and going along with whatever quality of product is put on the floor just because of the years I've supported them. These ladies can play and are great talents; Warlick has no idea what to do with them,...no idea and I refuse to support that!
 
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We decline a little more every year with no sign of a turn-around whatsoever. We are about to drop out of the top 20. I wish it wasn't so, as stability is generally good for a program. In this case we need a change while it's still a top destination for a coach.
 
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Coffy73 said:
If this team showed any kind of effort on the floor, then I would slightly agree with some of what you're saying. However, this team receives no motivation from the coach and you can see that every time they play! I don't believe in being a "blind" fan and going along with whatever quality of product is put on the floor just because of the years I've supported them. These ladies can play and are great talents; Warlick has no idea what to do with them,...no idea and I refuse to support that!
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BeAllEndAll said:
We decline a little more every year with no sign of a turn-around whatsoever. We are about to drop out of the top 20. I wish it wasn't so, as stability is generally good for a program. In this case we need a change while it's still a top destination for a coach.
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I agree. Preseason #4 to this! Nothing but regression. If Holly is not responsible then who is??????? Yes, her seat should be hot, and she is making it hotter...... :focus:
 
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Alto1 said:
I agree. Preseason #4 to this! Nothing but regression. If Holly is not responsible then who is??????? Yes, her seat should be hot, and she is making it hotter...... :focus:
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Holly is not a part of the solution, therefore, if she cared about the program she would resign immediately.
 
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Holly got the job because of her loyalty to Pat, the best assistant coach she had is with Tyler. Had Micki stayed the whole time like Holly she would have gotten the job. Water under the bridge, time to go get a coach that can coach at the best women's program in the United States
 
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Some of you need to stop with all the drama. Your emotions are overruling your common sense and observations.

This roster does not play well together. Graves is the only one that will bang. She has always done that best in the low block. She is rarely there in this half court offense. Mercedes needs to bang and start being what she has the size to be if she isn't too nice to do it. No true PG and no player did the work to become one in the off season. DeShields is lost at times with the system and gets very careless. Carter is not even as intense on D as she was last season. Nared is solid, but cannot carry the load. Reynolds is very inconsistent. Middleton may help someday. That's about it. No team identity. No gutsy, tough, focused play for a whole 40 minutes. Lucky to give 20.

They play the passing lanes fine and end up with a good number of steals and TO's in most games. But as an example, they had 2 blocks tonight. With a 6'6" Mercedes and good athletic jumpers in the rotation. ND, less athletic, had 7. ND moved the ball better on offense with 5 more assists. Ignore ND shooting, the LV's 43% shooting from the field overall is fine. But 27% from 3 and 57% with FT's stinks. All of it shows the rebounding was fine and offensively they dominated with 17 - WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON THEY SHOT 43% FROM THE FIELD - lay ups and put backs. They did not create enough offense and draw enough fouls to get to the line.

They are bad shooters. Repeat. They are bad shooters. A lot of open, uncontested looks. Combine loose defense with bad shooting and they will not beat good teams while losing occasionally to marginal teams.

So who recruited that roster, developed that roster, schemed for that roster, S&C'd that roster, game plans that roster, makes game adjustments for that roster, etc.? If your standards are mid-pack SEC you will be happy with things. But that kills the legacy of LV basketball. I see no way they can terminate Holly during the season. You give her the rest of the season to redeem herself. But they missed on their recruiting targets in the early signing period. So the fuse is burning if Hart and the university still even want to have an elite women's program. Not sure that is the case.
 
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And the defense gave up too many back door layups to Notre Dame in the 2nd half while taking too many quick 3 point shot attempts instead of working the ball around and driving to the basket.

Doris Burke questioned the shot selection a couple of times during the broadcast.
 
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amavol2 said:
Holly got the job because of her loyalty to Pat, the best assistant coach she had is with Tyler. Had Micki stayed the whole time like Holly she would have gotten the job. Water under the bridge, time to go get a coach that can coach at the best women's program in the United States
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You are correct
 
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CAVPUT said:
Let's be honest here. Holly watched Pat do her thing for years. Her model of success is all Holly knows. Sadly, there's only one PHS. Pat was a force. She was bigger than life and could will/inspire a team to win. Pat also enjoyed the benefit of superior talent for most of her career. That began to change in the last few years of Pat's tenure. Other teams began to catch up in the talent department. Coaching started to become more critical. Holly simply doesn't have that ability. She's no where near a top tier coach. She's trying to do what Pat did, but it's simply not working. The game has changed and Holly is not PHS. She's being exposed. She's toast. Just a matter of time. She's not able to relate to her team much less inspire them. Recruiting is down and out. Listen to her during interviews. She's over her head. It's apparent to anyone with an open eye.
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Now this is the post of the day!
 
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Coffy73 said:
If this team showed any kind of effort on the floor, then I would slightly agree with some of what you're saying. However, this team receives no motivation from the coach and you can see that every time they play! I don't believe in being a "blind" fan and going along with whatever quality of product is put on the floor just because of the years I've supported them. These ladies can play and are great talents; Warlick has no idea what to do with them,...no idea and I refuse to support that!
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same post, different game...
 
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LV Fans:

Was just browsing twitter. Noticed an exchange between Candace Parker, and Houston Kress @VolRumorMill. Could mean nothing, but could mean plenty.It was made an hour ago, just above the post after the loss to Kentucky

Kress@Parker: Yo. Things Aren't good.

Parker: Are you kidding me

Like I said, could be nothing. At this point, nothing would surprise me.
 
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