'22 TN QB Ty Simpson (Alabama commit)

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VolFreakJosh said:
You don’t invite Clay Travis and have an auditorium full of Vol fans just to announce you’re going to Bama.

Cmon people, you’re making this way harder than it should be.
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Its the perfect troll. I’d be shocked if he picked UT.

It’s like the Undertaker showing up the Rock in Miami.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
You don’t invite Clay Travis and have an auditorium full of Vol fans just to announce you’re going to Bama.

Cmon people, you’re making this way harder than it should be.
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kcvols1 said:
Its the perfect troll. I’d be shocked if he picked UT.

It’s like the Undertaker showing up the Rock in Miami.
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Clay has nothing to do with UT sports. No ties, no connections.

Inviting him means nothing.
 
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bignewt said:
Would it help? I sure haven't seen all that many instances of a QB recruit "bringing in" other players.I've seen kids go to OTHER schools because of who is committed but rarely the other way around. I think that Simpson would open the floodgates to all these great recruits is a myth.
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i tend to agree, on the notion that he would 'bring' others with him, as if there's a group of guys waiting to see what he does before they decide.......

the only thing i think a TS commitment does for the 22 class, is it gets others in state guys to maybe take another look at TN, it becomes an asset to recruit with for the staff; they dynamic changes.

if he goes somewhere else, it doesn't make it any more difficult....it just remains difficult. we don't have him in the boat today, and should we not have him in the boat Friday afternoon....nothing really changes as to the dynamic of this class with in state recruits.....so it is what it is on that front imo.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i tend to agree, on the notion that he would 'bring' others with him, as if there's a group of guys waiting to see what he does before they decide.......

the only thing i think a TS commitment does for the 22 class, is it gets others in state guys to maybe take another look at TN, it becomes an asset to recruit with for the staff; they dynamic changes.

if he goes somewhere else, it doesn't make it any more difficult....it just remains difficult. we don't have him in the boat today, and should we not have him in the boat Friday afternoon....nothing really changes as to the dynamic of this class with in state recruits.....so it is what it is on that front imo.
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There are friendships that come into play. Possible leverage. The question we don't know is how much of a part would that friendship play in the decision of other players. If TS commits elsewhere and UT gets a commitment from Horn then we are really not in any different spot. In either situation we have a highly regarded, highly ranked QB commit. If other players are looking at committing to UT, then UT is in the same situation with either of them committed. The only real difference is the relationship that TS has with some other recruits. Relationships that have been built over many years. How much difference that makes is what we do not know.
 
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gorockytop98 said:
Nuh uh.

He compiled a list of super-secret super-qualified coaches for us to hire last month from his rolodex. All by himself. Like a true VFL.
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Like who believed that all these coaches contacted Clay Travis, of all people, to express interest in the UT job. Like Clay was involved in the search somehow 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
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onevol74 said:
This reminds me of Steve Sloan from Cleveland picking Bama over UT where he won NC. By the end of his Bama career UT was on the rise and beating Bama every year. One recruit does not make a program.
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I generally agree, but a QB dang sure can. Swap out JG the past few years with a top-tier QB1, and I think we see vastly different records, which builds momentum on the recruiting trail.
 
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therickbol said:
There are friendships that come into play. Possible leverage. The question we don't know is how much of a part would that friendship play in the decision of other players. If TS commits elsewhere and UT gets a commitment from Horn then we are really not in any different spot. In either situation we have a highly regarded, highly ranked QB commit. If other players are looking at committing to UT, then UT is in the same situation with either of them committed. The only real difference is the relationship that TS has with some other recruits. Relationships that have been built over many years. How much difference that makes is what we do not know.
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i don't think these guys, like horton or james etc. are gonna decide on TN because Ty picks TN. Horton can still to to Bama. James can still go to UGA. and play with as good, or really better, players on the whole.

package deals usually are only a thing when there's one or more parties in the package that are completely reliant on the other for their ticket in to a school, and the one player that is actually coveted is in a position of leverage.

ty may have some leverage, but the prospects we're talking about don't need Ty. they have a spot at TN should they want it.

all adding Ty would do is change the dynamic for what this staff can offer as far as vision. adding Ty enhances their ability to do that.
 
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bignewt said:
Would it help? I sure haven't seen all that many instances of a QB recruit "bringing in" other players.I've seen kids go to OTHER schools because of who is committed but rarely the other way around. I think that Simpson would open the floodgates to all these great recruits is a myth.
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Hunter Johnson was big in landing Tee Higgins for Clemson. Then they shot him out of a cannon never to be seen again. Programs build their classes around top end QBs...it’s a thing.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Our fanbase is creating an unfair narrative around Ty’s decision.

“He knows the ramifications of not picking TN.”

“He knows it would crush our program if he announced his commitment elsewhere.”

And many, many more hyperbolic statements. Listen, I desperately want Ty to be a Vol, but why is it some 17 year old kid’s responsibility to pick us because he grew up a Vol fan? His ultimate goal is to win championships and get to the NFL, not please our fanbase. I can’t blame him if he thinks it’s more secure to go elsewhere.
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I think most fans would understand him picking another school. Same with Trevor Lawrence. I think announcing that publicly in front of mainly Vol fans would be looked at as rubbing your face in it. Marco says the kid wants his moment. How is that a moment? Is he going to enjoy the disappointed looks on many of those in attendance? If he wanted a moment, he could go on any TV station and announce without twisting the knife. I'm sure ESPN or the SECN would love to have him announce live on their networks.

Having said that, I'm not one that really cares about where these kids go. Sure I get excited when we have a good class but I definitely won't lose one blink of sleep over it. The way recruiting works most won't live up to the hype anyway. The Vols will field a team and hopefully the coaching staff will coach that team to have success. I'm just really looking forward to seeing how this staff molds these Volunteers into a team.
 
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Callahan responding to a poster saying Ty grew up a lifelong UT fan...

Not exactly. Ty’s desire to play in Knoxville and love for Tennessee doesn’t exactly come from the place of being a lifelong fan, so I think some people have the wrong idea about that. He has an affinity for his home-state school because it’s the home-state school. But his dad has been at Chattanooga and now UT Martin, so Ty has looked at it from a different perspective. He hasn’t disliked UT or anything like that. I just don’t think he had a bedroom full of orange and stuff like that, if that makes sense.

I just think, as a recruit, Simpson has liked the idea of playing at Tennessee, being in Knoxville and being up there with some people he knows and likes — things like that — and the idea of representing his state has appealed to him. But if we’re talking about being a lifelong Tennessee fan, Sam Horn fits that description better than Simpson. Horn’s family has had season tickets for years, so he has grown up going to games and his parents and brother have gone to UT. Simpson isn’t quite in that same boat.
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jakez4ut said:
i don't think these guys, like horton or james etc. are gonna decide on TN because Ty picks TN. Horton can still to to Bama. James can still go to UGA. and play with as good, or really better, players on the whole.

package deals usually are only a thing when there's one or more parties in the package that are completely reliant on the other for their ticket in to a school, and the one player that is actually coveted is in a position of leverage.

ty may have some leverage, but the prospects we're talking about don't need Ty. they have a spot at TN should they want it.

all adding Ty would do is change the dynamic for what this staff can offer as far as vision. adding Ty enhances their ability to do that.
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butchna said:
Hunter Johnson was big in landing Tee Higgins for Clemson. Then they shot him out of a cannon never to be seen again. Programs build their classes around top end QBs...it’s a thing.
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Yeah, that is what I was getting at working on the assumption that UT lands Horn if they miss on Simpson. Having Simpton or Horn committed puts UT in the same place as far as helping recruit other players because we have a high ranked QB commitment. So the only real difference, from a recruiting perspective, is how much does the prior relationship Simpson has with a few of the other UT recruits help with UT's recruitment of them. Horn does not have a 4 year personal relationship with Dallas Hayden but Simpson does. But ultimately how much does having Simpson committed, compared to Horn, help with those other Tennessee recruits? I don't think we really know the answer to that question. I certainly don't buy into the doom and gloom that if Simpson goes to Clemson/Alabama and UT lands Horn instead, that UT has no shot to get the other Tennessee recruits.
 
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