TN should be ahead of Alabama in polls

[Orange-heart]

In ANY poll, if two teams have the same record and played head-to-head, the team that won head-to-head is ahead.

 

[AdoptedVOL]

Ugh... another one of these threads?

 

[FortMyersVol]

Plus the other team they lost to we smoked

 

[C-south]

Lol.

 

[C-south]

If we were in the sec west it might matter. In the polls they look at wins and losses. We lost to a terrible team by 20+. Head to head doesn’t mean s***

 

[EconVol92]

I hate to disagree with you, but I do.

Their loss to us on the road by 3 and an overtime loss to LSU on the road by 1 are nowhere near as bad as our loss to South Carolina.

 

[Orange-heart]

Plus the other team they lost to we smoked

Excellent point!

 

[Orange-heart]

I hate to disagree with you, but I do.

Their loss to us on the road by 3 and an overtime loss to LSU on the road by 1 are nowhere near as bad as our loss to South Carolina.

In ANY SPORT AT ANY LEVEL SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN BORN, after record, head to head is the established rule for standings.

 

[Vanhalo]

Alabama is a better team today.
thanks to a locker room incident that caused an ACL injury to our best player and 63 points surrendered to an albino with delusions of grandeur.

 

[Eastknox865]

Prio to the South Carolina game Tennessee was ahead of Alabama in the polls. We got blown out and lost that position. It's not the fault of the committee it's the fault of the team that laid down

 

[C-south]

Prio to the South Carolina game Tennessee was ahead of Alabama in the polls. We got blown out and lost that position. It's not the fault of the committee it's the fault of the team that laid down

People can’t realize that. The pollsters see our win versus Bama as a fluke and even if our loss to USCjr was it was too embarrassing to not drop us like they did.

 

[Vols1313]

In ANY poll, if two teams have the same record and played head-to-head, the team that won head-to-head is ahead.

Yes

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

If we were in the sec west it might matter. In the polls they look at wins and losses. We lost to a terrible team by 20+. Head to head doesn’t mean s***

SC isn’t terrible

 

[Stephen Gray]

In ANY poll, if two teams have the same record and played head-to-head, the team that won head-to-head is ahead.

I can see strong arguments both ways. I’d put us ahead, but only way I could be mad about someone going the other way would be if there are clear guidelines that the voters are supposed to consider that they disregarded and it cost us the spot. My understanding is that it’s totally subjective though. If not, why have voters at all?

 

[C-south]

SC isn’t terrible

Up until they beat us it wasn’t even a question. They struggled all year and their qb had almost as many ints as tds.

 

[JustinVol]

Their h

Alabama is a better team today.
thanks to a locker room incident that caused an ACL injury to our best player and 63 points surrendered to an albino with delusions of grandeur.

Their locker room…wow lol

 

[Big151Orange]

I hate to disagree with you, but I do.

Their loss to us on the road by 3 and an overtime loss to LSU on the road by 1 are nowhere near as bad as our loss to South Carolina.

If two teams have the same record and played each other head to head, the winner of the head to head should be ranked higher. Each game has its own unique variables that make it impossible to determine our loss vs USC was worse than their loss to LSU. Bama lost by one at LSU while we crushed LSU at their place. So if you try to use comparative scores, we have two advantages over Bama, our head to head victory over them and a much wider margin of victory over a common opponent, both on the road. Simply no valid reason to put UA over UT based upon real evidenc. Saying they would beat us if we played again because of our QB situation is nothing but speculation. At this point in the season, polls should be based upon actual games played, historical facts, not speculation on what would happen if…….

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Up until they beat us it wasn’t even a question. They struggled all year and their qb had almost as many ints as tds.

Back to back top 10 wins says they aren’t terrible. Just stop.

 

[Stephen Gray]

If two teams have the same record and played each other head to head, the winner of the head to head should be ranked higher. Each game has its own unique variables that make it impossible to determine our loss vs USC was worse than their loss to LSU. Bama lost by one at LSU while we crushed LSU at their place. So if you try to use comparative scores, we have two advantages over Bama, our head to head victory over them and a much wider margin of victory over a common opponent, both on the road. Simply no valid reason to put UA over UT based upon real evidenc. Saying they would beat us if we played again because of our QB situation is nothing but speculation. At this point in the season, polls should be based upon actual games played, historical facts, not speculation on what would happen if…….

See, you have a methodology, and I even like your methodology, but others might have other ways to determine where to put teams. They could have a different methodology or even just be doing it based more on feel than treating every decision the same way. Unless there is written guidance somewhere no one way is right. If such guidance does exist however, it brings in to question why one should have voters at all?

 

[#1n51&98]

If on Tuesday ,the CFP poll parallels the AP poll and I expect that it will . Then it's a 5 horse race and Tennessee and Bama both , are on the outside looking in !

 

[jmacvols1]

gmannVOLS
@gmannVOLS
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The CFP Ranking Committee uses 5 main criteria to determine rankings. By all applicable criteria, Tennessee beats Alabama and should be ranked higher

 

[Stephen Gray]

gmannVOLS
@gmannVOLS
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The CFP Ranking Committee uses 5 main criteria to determine rankings. By all applicable criteria, Tennessee beats Alabama and should be ranked higher

This is really useful information. It actually tells us what they are supposed to factor. I hope this is how they put us.

 

[s_wall98]

In ANY SPORT AT ANY LEVEL SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN BORN, after record, head to head is the established rule for standings.

In standings, yes. Rankings, no.

 

[Stephen Gray]

In ANY SPORT AT ANY LEVEL SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN BORN, after record, head to head is the established rule for standings.

I think doing it that way makes sense. If it is a rule though maybe it should be written down.

 

[Gatlinburgvol]

Hopefully the CFP committee will take into account the overall season and the fact we beat bama. They should also take into account that bama survived/won three games (Texas, Texas A & M, Ole Miss) on the last play of the game. The espn/cbs talking heads seem to forget that.

We had 2 bad games. Bama had 5. Based on schedule and power rating, Tennessee should be ranked at #6 behind Ohio St.