TN to use Fullback?

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Neyland Law Vol

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I've seen some posters complain that TN needs to go to more power sets at some times rather than always being in a spread formation. Does this mean we may see more power formation sets?

It appears UT might utilize a fullback in some capacity this week, something the Vols haven’t done this season with any regularity. There’s no true fullback on the roster, but Joe Stocstill, a walk-on utility player who has played quarterback and linebacker thus far in his UT career, was getting some first-team reps at fullback at practice. Stocstill was also seen working with the tight ends during position drills
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Given our experienced O-line, and problems passing, would it be a good idea to forgo the spread for more power formations?
 
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Yes I believe that would be a good thing. Since the passing game is stagnate right now, I believe if we can get the running game established then it might free up some passing lanes. JMO. Anything to get this offense going and rest the defense.
 
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I would like to see some power formations and run the ball out of a standard formation. Especially in short yardage situations. Our supposed strength is our O-line, so let's play to our strength.
 
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If the offensive line can't open up running lanes, and we have two running backs who aren't great at running between the tackles then what's a fullback going to do? I'm fine with CBJs offense, it's the old farts that complain about "traditional sets" and crap. Honestly, football can be effective running the spread no huddle guys we just don't have the personnel. Not flaming but a fullback wouldn't have helped against Florida. The O line has to open holes.
 
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I dunno. They've been trying to teach em this power spead thing since spring...changing again a quarter into the season doesn't sound like a bright idea.
 
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Throw everything at them FB, mulitple TE sets, WildVol, etc to keep them off guard. If you keep them off guard, that gives you an extra second of indecisiveness, which can result in missed assignments, tackles, extra yards and defensive penalties.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
Given our experienced O-line, and problems passing, would it be a good idea to forgo the spread for more power formations?
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Butch isn't gonna forgo "his system" IMO. Our current personnel doesn't ideally fit the system he wants to run, but he's gonna go with what he knows and what he wants to run moving forward. Jmo.
 
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I'm not sure we have the personnel to run a whole lot of power sets unless we march out 6 OL onto the field.

Right now Downs is our only TE who can block at an SEC level. The coaches have tried using Crowder as a blocking TE a bit, but injuries have slowed him.

Hopefully Bransiel develops quickly over the next few weeks to the point our coaches feel good about him lining up and blocking in 2TE sets.
 
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We just need the guys on the perimeter to make some plays and get some of the defenders out of the box.
 
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KBVol said:
Butch isn't gonna forgo "his system" IMO. Our current personnel doesn't ideally fit the system he wants to run, but he's gonna go with what he knows and what he wants to run moving forward. Jmo.
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I agree KB.
 
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Daniel McCullers should be the full back, people will just move outta the way. Plus it will help with his lungs and stamina and speed.
 
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This guy was a pretty good fullback!
 
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QUOTE: • It appears UT might utilize a fullback in some capacity this week, something the Vols haven’t done this season with any regularity. There’s no true fullback on the roster, but Joe Stocstill, a walk-on utility player who has played quarterback and linebacker thus far in his UT career, was getting some first-team reps at fullback at practice. Stocstill was also seen working with the tight ends during position drills.





Halle- Freaking - Lluja!!! Let's put some power back in the Offense!
 
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utvolpj said:
he was just a RB used differently. A guy like Amsler was a FB
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I always remembered him as playing Full Back. He was just that awesome that he could block as good as any other Full Back, but he was also able to run as good as most other teams RB's. So we gave him more running opportunities than most other FB.

UT sports' web site classifies him as a FB -

Shawn Bryson, a native of Franklin, N.C., was a senior and a captain in 1998. A starter in all 13 games, he produced 367 yards of offense and scored five touchdowns from the fullback position
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Player Bio: Shawn Bryson - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics

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volswillrise12 said:
If the offensive line can't open up running lanes, and we have two running backs who aren't great at running between the tackles then what's a fullback going to do? I'm fine with CBJs offense, it's the old farts that complain about "traditional sets" and crap. Honestly, football can be effective running the spread no huddle guys we just don't have the personnel. Not flaming but a fullback wouldn't have helped against Florida. The O line has to open holes.
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Let me explain football to you. When you have no threat of a passing game the defense focuses solely on the run. That off balance in the offense allows the D to load the box every time with 6-8 defenders for 5 lineman to block. That is why the running lanes aren't available. Not to mention that our running plays consist of read options which end up always being sweeps or mid draws because we don't have a mobile quarterback.

Adding a fullback lets me know two things.

1. Bajakian realizes that it's time to change it up because our reads and mobility aren't there at qb.

2. They are trying to account for the D loading the box again and again to allow running lines via an extra blocker.

So you're wrong. A fullback is a great sign
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
I always remembered him as playing Full Back. He was just that awesome that he could block as good as any other Full Back, but he was also able to run as good as most other teams RB's. So we gave him more running opportunities than most other FB.

UT sports' web site classifies him as a FB -



Player Bio: Shawn Bryson - UTSPORTS.COM - University of Tennessee Athletics

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I realize what it says and how he was categorized back then. You also have to remember the stable of RBs we had and they wanted him on the field. All I'm saying is he was not the prototypical FB
 
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What happened to Justin King? FB, TE, LB? Where is he? Thought he looked pretty athletic last year plus he's a big dude at 6'2" 240. I see he's listed as a lb'er now but I haven't seen him on the field at all. Maybe he's injured..................
 
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KnoxVegas said:
Oregon didn't put them in the box.
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They used a lot of bear front and had some run blitz, but you are correct that they didn't put 8 guys in there like Florida did.

However, I think we had a decent average per carry against Oregon. 4.7 yards if I remember correctly. We can live with that.

What can't happen is only rushing for 66 yards on 23 carries as we did against the gators when all aspects of the offense collapsed.
 
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Coaches have seen enough and now know we have to try something to get this offense going. The read option works well with the right personel, but we don't have the right personel. Currently we are having trouble just completing pass plays, due in part to inconsistent QB play as well as route running and catching the football.
It appears Butch is not willing to change his system to fit the personel and this is causing the big debate among Vol fans.
 
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