To Protect and to Serve II

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yea just excuse his past and what he’s done as recently as a few years ago. Lol

GHWB was CIA Director and we allowed him to be POTUS. Should we have not allowed him to shake off his past?

And yes, I am putting the CIA in the same category as the KGB.

 

[Rickyvol77]

GHWB was CIA Director and we allowed him to be POTUS. Should we have not allowed him to shake off his past?

And yes, I am putting the CIA in the same category as the KGB.

Again I agree. However you are only carrying water and making excuses for one of them

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Again I agree. However you are only carrying water and making excuses for one of them

Possibly. Because I hold us to a far different standard. I hold cops to a far different standard.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Really? Then why did the cops ask for the vaccine passport?

Security and museum people did. They called the police after this protest group shoved them and stated they weren’t leaving and would have to be dragged out. You are being played lol
Girl, 9, and five adults arrested at NYC museum over vaccine cards

 

[Rickyvol77]

Possibly. Because I hold us to a far different standard. I hold cops to a far different standard.

But isn’t a “violation of freedom” a world wide issue?

 

[RockyTop85]

That was a very unpleasant read...primarily because it doesn't lend itself to being viewed in anything remotely "bad apple" but the dreaded "systemic".

Only marginally less extreme examples of this stuff happen all over.

There was a second Ferguson report that followed the report exonerating the officer who shot Michael Brown. DOJ found that the town was basically using the court as an ATM machine. There were emails flying back and forth between judges, commissioners, and the police about how they needed more tickets and convictions to make budget. Then, miraculously, the number of tickets went up and the number of convictions went up.

Could write the same report about my town in Tennessee.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

But isn’t a “violation of freedom” a world wide issue?

Yes.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Only marginally less extreme examples of this stuff happen all over.

There was a second Ferguson report that followed the report exonerating the officer who shot Michael Brown. DOJ found that the town was basically using the court as an ATM machine. There were emails flying back and forth between judges, commissioners, and the police about how they needed more tickets and convictions to make budget. Then, miraculously, the number of tickets went up and the number of convictions went up.

Could write the same report about my town in Tennessee.

Which town is that

 

[tim]

Prayers to these heroes and families

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Prayers to these heroes and families

A domestic violence call...

 

[VolStrom]

Prayers to these heroes and families

More retail workers than law-enforcement officers were killed in homicides on the job for 6 years in a row

 

[tim]

More retail workers than law-enforcement officers were killed in homicides on the job for 6 years in a row

That’s sad also. There are also 1/4 the amount of LEO’s vs retail.

 

[tim]

A domestic violence call...

Your point?

 

[VolStrom]

That’s sad also. There are also 1/4 the amount of LEO’s vs retail.

How many retail clerks pack a 9mm on their hip and wear a bullet proof vest?

 

[tim]

How many retail clerks pack a 9mm on their hip and wear a bullet proof vest?

not enough
How many bad guys rob cops? It’s a stupid comment.

 

[VolStrom]

not enough
How many bad guys rob cops? It’s a stupid comment.

Great point! So you're saying it's more dangerous to be a store clerk than a cop?

 

[tim]

Great point! So you're saying it's more dangerous to be a store clerk than a cop?

Percentage wise it is not. But it is a dangerous profession. Probably should build more prisons and lock criminals up longer and get rid of parole/probation

 

[hog88]

Percentage wise it is not. But it is a dangerous profession. Probably should build more prisons and lock criminals up longer and get rid of parole/probation

That attitude hasn’t worked so far, maybe we need to try some different approaches.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Your point?

Usually (not certain about this particular case, but speaking in general), these "domestic calls" are usually conflicts between family members or girlfriend/boyfriend. Police don't need to be inserting themselves in a majority (I didn't say all, I said a majority) of these beefs.

 

[VolStrom]

Percentage wise it is not. But it is a dangerous profession. Probably should build more prisons and lock criminals up longer and get rid of parole/probation

I agree.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Percentage wise it is not. But it is a dangerous profession. Probably should build more prisons and lock criminals up longer and get rid of parole/probation

Nope. We have enough laws and prisons. We lead the "free world" in both categories.

 

[VolStrom]

Nope. We have enough laws and prisons. We lead the "free world" in both categories.

Well letting people out of prison early is not exactly working out is it?

 

[tim]

Usually (not certain about this particular case, but speaking in general), these "domestic calls" are usually conflicts between family members or girlfriend/boyfriend. Police don't need to be inserting themselves in a majority (I didn't say all, I said a majority) of these beefs.

Yeahok

 

[tim]

That attitude hasn’t worked so far, maybe we need to try some different approaches.

It did work. Very well.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Well letting people out of prison early is not exactly working out is it?

Not working well at all.

I have no problem with violent people going to jail and doing their time. My issue is a lot of the over-policing and petty nonsense that the cops mostly find themselves engaged in.