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#101
#101
Oldblood said:
Maybe I'm just dense, but can someone explain to me why the UK base would want to get rid of a guy after just two years? Regardless of what their perception of BCG is, shouldn't he at least get to field a team with a majority of his recruits?
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In college basketball - especially at UK - two years should be plenty of time to field a contender.
 
#102
#102
UT IE 95 said:
Avg double figure points. When points are down, assists and rebounds are up. Looks like a consistent contributor's stat sheet to me.

The guy's not in the running for player of the year - and no one is claiming that. He's a solid contributor though.
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The fact that he all but disappears on the boards sometimes doesn't bother you? Or that he shoots 64% from the charity stripe? Or that he has decided to be absolutely retarded in a crucial situation in almost every single one of UTs losses? The guy is a starter at the damn three, he needs to be getting his averages and refraining from dumbassery every night, not just a little here and a little there.
 
#103
#103
emainvol said:
The fact that he all but disappears on the boards sometimes doesn't bother you? Or that he shoots 64% from the charity stripe? Or that he has decided to be absolutely retarded in a crucial situation in almost every single one of UTs losses? The guy is a starter at the damn three, he needs to be getting his averages and refraining from dumbassery every night, not just a little here and a little there.
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This has led to several of our losses. With his body size and athleticism, he should be good for AT LEAST 5 boards/game every game and average more than that. His 0-1 rebound games are pathetic.
 
#104
#104
UT IE 95 said:
You failing to recognize JP has been a consistent contributor to the team this year is just plain wrong.

And why you would call out his high school as a trash program is beyond reason. Especially since they had one of the best coaches in the history of the state while he was there.
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JP and consistent is an oxymoron. He did have a stretch towards the end of the year where he played very well. However, for the majority of the year, he has had the basketball IQ of a box of worms.

It seemed like BP finally got through to JP and told him he's not a jumpshooter, but a slasher-driver.

I think JP will be a key to any tournament success we have, both SEC and NCAA. IF he can play consistently, it certainly helps our chances.
 
#105
#105
Oldblood said:
Maybe I'm just dense, but can someone explain to me why the UK base would want to get rid of a guy after just two years? Regardless of what their perception of BCG is, shouldn't he at least get to field a team with a majority of his recruits?
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Consider the career of his predecessor: In his 10 years, Tubby won a national championship, won the SEC 5 times, won the east two more, and won the SEC tournament 5 times. He never won less than 22 games, and he reached the Elite Eight 4 times. He was pressured to the point of resignation mainly due to the fact that he did not reach the Final Four after his first year.

Running Tubby off into the Minnesota wilderness was supposed to effect an upgrade of the program, but since that time the Cats have had two seasons significantly worse than any in the Smith decade. When you fire a guy who won an SEC regular season or tournament championship (or both) in 8 of his 10 seasons, the guy who replaces him had better have better results, not worse. 18-12, 19-12 with likely one NCAA tournament game in two years isn't better.

The sample size is small, but the trend isn't good.
 
#106
#106
UT IE 95 said:
In college basketball - especially at UK - two years should be plenty of time to field a contender.
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With that logic, Tom Crean better get his resume ready and Louisville should have long since fired Rick Pitino. Why the Hell UCONN kept Jim Calhoun after his first two years is beyond me.
 
#107
#107
hatvol96 said:
With that logic, Tom Crean better get his resume ready and Louisville should have long since fired Rick Pitino. Why the Hell UCONN kept Jim Calhoun after his first two years is beyond me.
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exactly. Technically we should have went ahead and fired Rick Pitino after his first two years at Kentucky. Why not? The man went 14-14 after his first season, and we missed the tourney two years in a row. NCAA Probation? Pish Posh. He should have overcome that too.

Billy Gillispie did not go 64-0 with two championships over two years with a less than mediocre UK team. Send him out on a rail.

2 years is NOT enough time to BUILD a contender from scratch. Not in elite D1 Basketball.
 
#108
#108
emainvol said:
The fact that he all but disappears on the boards sometimes doesn't bother you? Or that he shoots 64% from the charity stripe? Or that he has decided to be absolutely retarded in a crucial situation in almost every single one of UTs losses? The guy is a starter at the damn three, he needs to be getting his averages and refraining from dumbassery every night, not just a little here and a little there.
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This could be my new favorite word.
 
#109
#109
hatvol96 said:
A team as utterly mediocre as Kentucky winning the SEC Tournament would be a fitting culmination of this pathetic season by the league.
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Honestly, the same could be said for roughly 10 other teams as well, no?
 
#111
#111
UT IE 95 said:
You mercilessly ran JP into the ground. Saying UT wouldn't win games if he played any significance on the team. Flat out wrong.

And playing in the C-USA doesn't prepare Memphis for the NCAAs. Just like the Pistons playing in a Detroit church league wouldn't prepare them for the NBA finals.
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Memphis' schedule was tougher than every school in the SEC but 2.
 
#113
#113
hatvol96 said:
If you want to bet me that Minnesota and UT will finish closer to first in their leagues in '09-'10 than Kentucky, name the amount of the wager. I'll take both of those gambles.
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had to go to work so just now readin this hat. how will i get the money?
 
#116
#116
Hardwood_fanatic said:
exactly. Technically we should have went ahead and fired Rick Pitino after his first two years at Kentucky. Why not? The man went 14-14 after his first season, and we missed the tourney two years in a row. NCAA Probation? Pish Posh. He should have overcome that too.

Billy Gillispie did not go 64-0 with two championships over two years with a less than mediocre UK team. Send him out on a rail.

2 years is NOT enough time to BUILD a contender from scratch. Not in elite D1 Basketball.
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I wasn't aware he was starting from scratch. . .
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#117
#117
Oldblood said:
I wasn't aware he was starting from scratch. . .
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Look at what that roster would have looked like if he hadn't reeled in Patterson. By Kentucky standards, it's as close to scratch as you get without probation being involved.
 
#118
#118
Prince gets a higher % of offensive boards than tyler, and while he's lacking in the d-board area, this tends to be a product of the way we set up(which see: like basically any random game film). He also is the most proficient stealer on the team. He also shoots the highest interior fg percentage. He also has like the exact same(no lie: -0.2 less; which is negligible) assist rate as our true PG, bobby maze.

64% from the stripe aint great, but it's like 4th on the team.

With the good comes the bad, that goes for any player who plays with JP's style. But by and large he has afforded us the opportunity for where a late-second mishap can decide the game.

There are about 8 other players worthy of criticism on this team before JP. In fact, outside of tyler and wayne I'm hard pressed to find someone more valuable thus far.

Also: lol@kentucky
 
#119
#119
I can only laugh at the UK and Gillispie apologists on here. I'm all for giving him all the time he needs to "build the team from scratch" and "get things turned around".

The fact his players continue to mutiny against him is telling enough.
 
#120
#120
UT IE 95 said:
I can only laugh at the UK and Gillispie apologists on here. I'm all for giving him all the time he needs to "build the team from scratch" and "get things turned around".

The fact his players continue to mutiny against him is telling enough.
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The mutiny is way overblown/web talk. He has built his team around getting PP and JM the ball. They aren't upset about it one bit.

Here is the real sticking point with Bill Clyde. Gillespie refuses to play zone defense. Some may call it his real character flaw. Even I see that this team could benefit from it. However, that is the way he coaches. IMO it is only reasonable to see his coaching style with a team full of his recruits. There is little doubt in my mind that there would be dramatic improvement.

To me, it is more apparent everyday that this is a fan base problem. As much as the fans idolize Pitino now, when he was here people questioned him often as well.
 
#121
#121
Lexvol said:
The mutiny is way overblown/web talk. He has built his team around getting PP and JM the ball. They aren't upset about it one bit.
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I've never attended a UK practice and I don't know any UK players personally. So it could all be rumors and conjecture. But there is so much, that I'm leaning towards the old saying "where there's smoke, there's fire".
 
#122
#122
UT IE 95 said:
I've never attended a UK practice and I don't know any UK players personally. So it could all be rumors and conjecture. But there is so much, that I'm leaning towards the old saying "where there's smoke, there's fire".
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The smoke is coming off the hot heads of Kentucky fans that have watched "Hoosiers" one too many times.
 
#124
#124
Lexvol said:
The smoke is coming off the hot heads of Kentucky fans that have watched "Hoosiers" one too many times.
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except for the fact that most Kentucky fans are so sickened by the word Hoosier so much, they are resentful and either refuse to watch the movie or pretend that it is named something else.


The Blue/Orange rivalry pales in comparison to the Blue/Red. At least for MOST people. lol
 
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