Top 25 Players in the Nation

#51
#51
whocaresgobobcats said:
That's wrong. They showed a stat last game where Stokes was shooting 39% on true post ups but something near 70% on offensive rebound put backs. He was also shooting around 60% when cutting to the basket.
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Obviously, layups from putbacks when no defender is between you and the rim will go in more
 
#53
#53
Daloth said:
For college ball, McRae is a better player. Not really a question about that. Stokes has better post NCAA potential, but it doesn't change the fact that McRae is this teams best guy. Though we are one of very few teams who can say they have a legit 1A and 1B in McRae and Stokes if needed (though I and most college analysts don't believe it is that way.)
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Agree. But when u say McRae is the best guy u are talking about putting points up, right? Cause stokes contributions r a lot more important when taken in context
 
#54
#54
whocaresgobobcats said:
no ****, thats why its more efficient.
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if you can assure the shooter will miss and he will get the rebound, then yes.
Are you considering the shots missed where he doesn't get the rebound and an opportunity for a putback? What about the ones made?
The stat you gave about putbacks being a higher % is a silly stat. That's like saying someone makes more 1 foot putts than 5 foot putts.
 
#60
#60
Spartacavolus said:
if you can assure the shooter will miss and he will get the rebound, then yes.
Are you considering the shots missed where he doesn't get the rebound and an opportunity for a putback? What about the ones made?
The stat you gave about putbacks being a higher % is a silly stat. That's like saying someone makes more 1 foot putts than 5 foot putts.
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Except that he also gave his % on regular post ups. 30%. A bigger than excepted difference.
 
#62
#62
my all sec team

mcrae
wilbekin
stokes
randle
o'bryant/releford/prather

sec player of the year
wilbekin

sec coach of the year
donovan

sec 6th man of the year
dorian finney-smith

sec freshman of the year
randle
 
#65
#65
SJAVol32 said:
Stokes and butterfingers doesn't go together at all. He's the most sure handed big man in the SEC. Announcers talk about Stokes hands all the time.
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I think you're thinking of Maymon, he's a turnover machine on the bounce-pass.
 
#66
#66
99gator said:
my all sec team

mcrae
wilbekin
stokes
randle
o'bryant/releford/prather

sec player of the year
wilbekin

sec coach of the year
donovan

sec 6th man of the year
dorian finney-smith

sec freshman of the year
randle
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6th man, coach, and freshman of the year are all "slam-dunks"
 
#67
#67
Daloth said:
For college ball, McRae is a better player. Not really a question about that. Stokes has better post NCAA potential, but it doesn't change the fact that McRae is this teams best guy. Though we are one of very few teams who can say they have a legit 1A and 1B in McRae and Stokes if needed (though I and most college analysts don't believe it is that way.)
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This is actually backwards. McRae and Stokes will both fight an uphill battle to have a prolonged career in the NBA. Stokes will have more to overcome to be a career NBA player. McRae has some physical tools and shooting ability that will give him more opportunity to make it in the NBA. Now, both will make a career of basketball whether it is the NBA or overseas. I hope that Stokes overcomes his length and explosiveness deficiencies and has a long NBA career. I hope McRae overcomes his lack of ball-handling, passing, and defensive intensity and has a long NBA career. If you ask me to put a percentage on those things happening, I think McRae's chances are slightly higher than Stokes.
 
#68
#68
Daloth said:
I just want to point out, Maymon has about a 2 inch vertical leap and is still somehow a top 5 rebounder in the SEC.

This should not be possible.
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He also averaged fewer turnovers per game than Stokes. When you have Maymon's width and his basketball iq, you can use it to great effect in the rebounding department.
 
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#69
#69
CMcEver said:
I think you're thinking of Maymon, he's a turnover machine on the bounce-pass.
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Who's a turnover machine? Stokes isn't. Jimmy Dykes praises the way Stokes handles the ball. Stokes averages 2.1 turnovers a game. And Maymon averages 1.8.
 
#70
#70
99gator said:
really?

every time i watch tennessee, stokes is unguardable.

the only thing that stops stokes are immediate, quality doubles of the post or tennessee on court brain farts when deciding to not get him the ball.

haven't seen anyone all year that can handle him one on one in the post.

y'all will think i am blowing smoke, but i think tennessee is a team that can make a surprise run if their head is screwed on straight. there aren't many teams that will put an individual player on the floor better than stokes.
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Just stick with evaluating the gators; you're crazy.
 
#71
#71
SJAVol32 said:
Who's a turnover machine? Stokes isn't. Jimmy Dykes praises the way Stokes handles the ball. Stokes averages 2.1 turnovers a game. And Maymon averages 1.8.
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Maymon had a bad game against Florida with 8 to's and everyone has tarred him as this turnover machine since then. Jordy and Jarnell both average more turnovers than Jeronne.
 
#72
#72
VolArmy74 said:
Maymon had a bad game against Florida with 8 to's and everyone has tarred him as this turnover machine since then. Jordy and Jarnell both average more turnovers than Jeronne.
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I'm convinced people don't watch games. Maymon and Stokes are two of the most sure handed passing big men in the SEC.
 
#75
#75
golfballs said:
My All-SEC team looks like this:

G - Releford
G - McRae
F- Prather
F- Randle
F - Stokes

Most underrated and underutilized: Brenton Williams at S Carolina
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Here ill go ahea and fix that and change Releford and Randle. did you watch that UK - UF game Randle got owned by Young.

G-Wilbekin
G-McRae
F-Prather
F-Young
C- Stokes
 
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