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Ty Cobb was the toughest baseball player to ever play the game. I also think he's misunderstood as a person.

Not really. He was a racist bastard who valued his legacy more than the game. He sat out several games to make sure he could end the season batting .400
All the other players hated him as well.
Great ball player? Yes
Good person? Not even close.
 
I know there are a lot of users in the past few years and it's easy to jump the gun. But until I see something on him I will give him a pass.
 
Not really. He was a racist bastard who valued his legacy more than the game. He sat out several games to make sure he could end the season batting .400
All the other players hated him as well.
Great ball player? Yes
Good person? Not even close.

I'm not saying he's a good person but not the terrible bastard people make him out to be.
 
he's been accused of beating black people all over the place, including a groundskeeper, a construction worker and an elevator operator. Reports even say he stabbed the elevator operator and it was settled out of court. Supposedly he even threatened the groundskeeper's wife and grabbed her by the throat. He also regularly slid in to bases with his spikes up, threatened umpires, fought umpires and beat up a heckler who had no hands. Story is when told the man had no legs, Cobb replied "I don't care if he has no feet".

Yes, Cobb was just misunderstood. He had a heart of gold.
 
In the late 1920s, Ty Cobb leased a hunting preserve with over 12,000 acres in MaGruder, GA, and built a house on it for a black man, named Uncle Bob Robinson, and his family to live there.

Mr. Cobb was in financial straits in the spring of 1906, but by the end of 1907, he had worked and saved his money. He began investing it in real estate in Georgia. In 1908, he bought 15 acres in Toccoa, GA and built and remodeled some of the nicest little homes in a predominately black neighborhood.

He named the subdivision “Booker T. Washington Heights,” and financed these homes to these residents for a minimal amount.


MENLOPARK (AP)—Tyrus Raymond Cobb, fiery old-time star of the diamond, stepped up to the plate today to clout a verbal home run in favor of Negroes in baseball.
Himself a native of the Deep South, Cobb voiced approval of the recent decision of the Dallas club to use Negro players if they came up to Texas league caliber.

The old Georgia Peach of Detroit Tigers fame was a fighter from the word go during his brilliant playing career. He neither asked for nor gave quarter in 24 tumultuous years in the American League. Time has mellowed the one time firebrand and he views the sport in the pleasant role of a country squire. He spoke emphatically on the subject of Negroes in baseball, however.

"Certainly it is O.K. for them to play," he said, "I see no reason in the world why we shouldn't compete with colored athletes as long as they conduct themselves with politeness and gentility. Let me say also that no white man has the right to be less of a gentleman than a colored man, in my book that goes not only for baseball but in all walks of life.”

"I like them, (Negro race) personally. When I was little I had a colored mammy. I played with colored children."

In an interview in the mid-1950s, Mr. Cobb made this statement, “You’ve ask me about this Cobb Educational Fund, and now I’m going to have to answer it. I do not wish to be eulogized for what I have done. I’m proud of it, yes. This Educational Fund has given me the greatest possible happiness and pleasure, and maybe when I’m gone we’ll have some real great men developed out of the Cobb Educational Foundation.”

what a genuine *******.
 
he got in a few altercations in his career but that doesn't make a bad person, everyone has done something they regret. He had a pretty short fuse which led to a lot of fights.
 
he got in a few altercations in his career but that doesn't make a bad person, everyone has done something they regret. He had a pretty short fuse which led to a lot of fights.

he repeatedly slid in to bases spikes up. Never stopped while he was playing, he never stopped threatening opposing players, fans or umps. He cheated. He beat random people up for no reason. That makes him a bad person. If it was once or twice, you may have a point, but he made a career of it. Cleaning up his act after his retirement did nothing to diminish the bad things he did year after year as a player.
 
he repeatedly slid in to bases spikes up. Never stopped while he was playing, he never stopped threatening opposing players, fans or umps. He cheated. He beat random people up for no reason. That makes him a bad person. If it was once or twice, you may have a point, but he made a career of it. Cleaning up his act after his retirement did nothing to diminish the bad things he did year after year as a player.

I don't think sliding spikes up was illegal, he did bet on baseball but so did Pete Rose, so by that logic Pete Rose is a bad person. He didn't beat up random people, he got in 4 altercations in his life and they weren't random. He was also great friends with alot of players like Christy Matthewson, Walter Johnson, Mickey Cochrane, Bobby Veach, Germany Schaefer, Bob Fothergill, Wild Bill Donovan, Harry Heilmann, Ray Schalk, Nap Rucker, Tris Speaker, and Joe D.
 

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