Top 5 instant impact freshmen

#54
#54
Can anybody find a prediction list from a recruiting site for last years class? I wonder if it lined up much with who the biggest contributors were.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I sincerely hope RDA does well here, but he went to Cincinnati for a reason...
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Hmm. So teams as bad as Cincinnati have never had players that were good enough to be stars at UT? Kelce, Wolf, Pead, Adrien Robinson, and Connor Barwin are all shaking their heads at you from the NFL.

You can't just say that a player is not UT caliber because he went to a school like Cincinnati.
 
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#56
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PassedOutAwake said:
Freshmen only

McKenzie
Townsend
Kirkland
Taylor (Special Teams)
Sapp (Special Teams)
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Everyone keeps forgetting about Smith as a special teams contributor. I hope we can redshirt him, but he is super athletic as well and is 6'3" and 230+
 
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#57
Do we expect Lovingood to be our starting long snapper? If so, I would say he is going to be a big impact to us one way or the other.
 
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#58
jspvol76 said:
Going bold here. Gonna say Juan Jennings, because I figure Dobbs goes down from injury, but hopefully nothing severe and only for a short while. From all the video I've seen, I just feel Jennings is the most dynamic. I think he comes in and balls out in Dobbs absence. Then Dobbs comes back and wins the East for us.
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I think Dobbs will run less this year. He'll be fine.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
agree 100% with your 5.

I'll add Austin Smith as the surprise early contributor of this class. And by the end of the season don't be surprised if Darrell Taylor is making big plays.
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Agree on Darrell Taylor. I think he may be the sleeper of this class that isn't getting talked about much. He's been a little overshadowed by other recruits but this kid can ball.
 
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MSME Vol said:
Do we expect Lovingood to be our starting long snapper? If so, I would say he is going to be a big impact to us one way or the other.
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Lovingood is not starting this year. I would hope he redshirts because Giampapa has been flawless thus far.
 
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#66
1. Kahlil McKenzie, DT

2. Alvin Kamara, RB

3. Justin Martin, CB

4. Kyle Phillips, DE

5. John Kelly Jr, RB

HMs:
Shy Tuttle, DT
Jack Jones, OL
Preston Williams, WR
Darrin Kirkland Jr, LB
Drew Richmond, OL


Here was my list. I left off Townsend as I was going non-ST. He's got a very high chance to start obviously. This list is also contingent on Paulk not getting reinstated. If he does, then Tuttle would be my 5. Also if Preston is ready to go, he would be in my 5.
 
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Burger said:
Lovingood is not starting this year. I would hope he redshirts because Giampapa has been flawless thus far.
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I was thinking he graduated but UT Sports shows he is a RS senior. Yeah I don't see any reason he won't start again. Makes the scholarship this year a little more of a head scratcher to me, but maybe they didn't want a guy coming in and starting as a true freshman once Giampapa graduates.
 
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turambar85 said:
Hmm. So teams as bad as Cincinnati have never had players that were good enough to be stars at UT? Kelce, Wolf, Pead, Adrien Robinson, and Connor Barwin are all shaking their heads at you from the NFL.

You can't just say that a player is not UT caliber because he went to a school like Cincinnati.
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I didn't say he wasn't UT caliber. I said there is no way he is the #3 newcomer in the 2015 class.

But, for the record, you are pointing out the limited exceptions, as opposed to the overwhelming majority.

Dovetails nicely with the "Stars don't matter" argument that goes - Johnny Manziel & Randall Cobb were 3 Stars, stars don't matter!!!

Exceptions. Not the rule.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I didn't say he wasn't UT caliber. I said there is no way he is the #3 newcomer in the 2015 class.

But, for the record, you are pointing out the limited exceptions, as opposed to the overwhelming majority.

Dovetails nicely with the "Stars don't matter" argument that goes - Johnny Manziel & Randall Cobb were 3 Stars, stars don't matter!!!

Exceptions. Not the rule.
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I don't think that RDA IV is anywhere near a top 3 incoming player. Nobody sane does. I'm just saying that your argument "he went to Cincinnati for a reason" isn't sufficient to show that he cannot be, or won't be, a top 3 talent. Any of of the guys I mentioned would, if transferring as a senior, have been a potential top 3 talent in our class. So Cincinnati *can* produce them. Of course it is less likely that a Cincinnati player is that good, but that's a different argument.

Being a Cinci. player doesn't doom a player to mediocrity, even if it makes it more likely that they are mediocre.
 
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turambar85 said:
I don't think that RDA IV is anywhere near a top 3 incoming player. Nobody sane does. I'm just saying that your argument "he went to Cincinnati for a reason" isn't sufficient to show that he cannot be, or won't be, a top 3 talent. Any of of the guys I mentioned would, if transferring as a senior, have been a potential top 3 talent in our class. So Cincinnati *can* produce them. Of course it is less likely that a Cincinnati player is that good, but that's a different argument.

Being a Cinci. player doesn't doom a player to mediocrity, even if it makes it more likely that they are mediocre.
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I think we are essentially in agreement
 
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OddFuture said:
1. Kahlil McKenzie, DT

2. Alvin Kamara, RB

3. Justin Martin, CB

4. Kyle Phillips, DE

5. John Kelly Jr, RB

HMs:
Shy Tuttle, DT
Jack Jones, OL
Preston Williams, WR
Darrin Kirkland Jr, LB
Drew Richmond, OL


Here was my list. I left off Townsend as I was going non-ST. He's got a very high chance to start obviously. This list is also contingent on Paulk not getting reinstated. If he does, then Tuttle would be my 5. Also if Preston is ready to go, he would be in my 5.
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Kelly Jr. over EE's Tuttle and Kirkland?
 
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