Total Hypocrisy!

[TennesseeTarheel]

Who?

Former La Tech ILB.

 

[njvols]

So if Michigan loses to Illinois, beats Ohio State and Michigan wins the B10 title are both in the playoff?

I'm figuring that the #3 team is going to beat the #21 team, but good question...could say the same about Ole Miss winning SEC championship and beats UGA I guess? But, I'd probably say MI is in, and OSU probably out...but all of this depends on what other teams in the top 8 do for the rest of the year and what style points they have.

 

[kell7517]

Top team in the SEC west? SEC championship game? Really left out of playoff? You could be right, but not likely... Lets say you are right and the powers that be pick Ga., who wins the playoff set of games. What do you say then if you are the college football know it alls? This is not the same as basketball or baseball where it is alright for a team to get hot and win it all regardless of their season record, but if Ga. were to win out in this scenario, I guess we will be following the baseball - basketball idea. But it's hard for me to accept this type of situation because of the limited number of games in a season for football.

If their are 4 one loss teams or better LSU won’t make the CFP,imo. I think if The puppies lose the Seccg, they still have a better shot at getting in.

 

[zydane47]

Ohio University is significantly older. When Ohio State was established in 1874 there was a push to demote the status of the existing state university (as well as Miami University) but eventually Ohio University was able to secure continued state support. Ohio State seems to be threatened enough by their older neighbor that they insist on being called THE state university, when of course Ohio has a bunch of state universities.

Well that is some real little man issues right there lol.

 

[cgrish]

Top team in the SEC west? SEC championship game? Really left out of playoff? You could be right, but not likely... Lets say you are right and the powers that be pick Ga., who wins the playoff set of games. What do you say then if you are the college football know it alls? This is not the same as basketball or baseball where it is alright for a team to get hot and win it all regardless of their season record, but if Ga. were to win out in this scenario, I guess we will be following the baseball - basketball idea. But it's hard for me to accept this type of situation because of the limited number of games in a season for football.

If lsu beats ga they will be in the playoffs. I dont think they should, but they will.

 

[CascadeVolunteer]

If it is about money, which it shouldn’t but that is how our world seems to work no matter what the topic. Tennessee travels as good if not better than any other school, we draw records ratings. So we got the money argument for the networks.

 

[superdave1984]

This is a pretty good breakdown of how the CFP committee does their thing. Tennessee has a legit shot at the #4 spot assuming TCU doesn't lose. If TCU loses then we may bump to #3. If the mich vs osu game is a blowoit, we can guarantee Tennessee in the playoff if we win out. I don't think the Pac 12 winner will have the resume.
Watch: Tennessee, Georgia & Alabama: SEC teams in the CFP rankings | Joel Klatt Show
Tennessee, Georgia & Alabama: SEC teams in the CFP rankings | Joel Klatt Show | FOX Sports

 

[wtmvol]

It seems like a slam dunk that we should be in the playoffs if we win out. But I think the only teams to get the benefit of the doubt from not winning their divisions are Alabama and Ohio State (2017 and 2016). By losing, and not just losing but getting dominated, to Georgia, we are at the mercy of an untrustworthy committee. They can twist things to fit whatever narrative they want. We can debate this till the cows come home, but unless USC, TCU, and Clemson all lose a game (and I've even someone suggest that if TCU loses once but then wins the Big12 championship they'd still get the nod over us), we're going to be sweating it out until they announce the teams.

I think it would be ridiculous to put LSU in over us given the fact that we crushed them and would have a better record, but they could spin it as "LSU is clearly a different team now and playing its best football. Winning the SEC championship over the #1 team demonstrates they belong, whereas Tennessee's beatdown by Georgia proves they don't."

I think it would be ridiculous to put a 1-loss TCU or 1-loss Clemson or 1-loss USC in over us, but they can spin those as "these teams won a P5 conference championship while Tennessee couldn't win its own division."

I think it would be ridiculous to put a 1-loss Michigan who also didn't win its own division in over us, but they can spin that as "Michigan battled Ohio State to a much closer game than Tennessee did against Georgia."

 

[DownNDirty]

It seems like a slam dunk that we should be in the playoffs if we win out. But I think the only teams to get the benefit of the doubt from not winning their divisions are Alabama and Ohio State (2017 and 2016). By losing, and not just losing but getting dominated, to Georgia, we are at the mercy of an untrustworthy committee. They can twist things to fit whatever narrative they want. We can debate this till the cows come home, but unless USC, TCU, and Clemson all lose a game (and I've even someone suggest that if TCU loses once but then wins the Big12 championship they'd still get the nod over us), we're going to be sweating it out until they announce the teams.

I think it would be ridiculous to put LSU in over us given the fact that we crushed them and would have a better record, but they could spin it as "LSU is clearly a different team now and playing its best football. Winning the SEC championship over the #1 team demonstrates they belong, whereas Tennessee's beatdown by Georgia proves they don't."

I think it would be ridiculous to put a 1-loss TCU or 1-loss Clemson or 1-loss USC in over us, but they can spin those as "these teams won a P5 conference championship while Tennessee couldn't win its own division."

I think it would be ridiculous to put a 1-loss Michigan who also didn't win its own division in over us, but they can spin that as "Michigan battled Ohio State to a much closer game than Tennessee did against Georgia."

Exactly, things can be "spun" however they want the narrative to read. For instance, there could be those that prop up Clemson via Notre Dame if Notre Dame manages to win out. I've already heard that Notre Dame lost their 3 games by a combined 18 points. And one of the losses was to undefeated Ohio State. Never mind the fact the other two losses were to friggin Marshall and Stanford. That wasn't mentioned in what I read because it doesn't fit the pretty narrative they are pushing to make Notre Dame look better right now. Nor would them outright saying that ND lost to Marshall and Stanford and beat the two ACC representatives for their conference title game in Clemson and UNC.

I do not trust a committee to leave Tennessee's fate in their hands. That's why I'm hoping TCU loses a game and Clemson, North Carolina, and USC all lose another game. And why especially UGA needs to run the table and beat LSU in the SECCG. You don't want an untrustworthy committee to have to pick between Tennessee and USC for the 4th spot or maybe Tennessee and OSU if they lose a very close game to Michigan. Or Tennessee/Clemson if Clemson wins out and is the ACC Champion.

None of it would make sense and shouldn't happen to Tennessee but I do NOT trust this committee. No one should. Let all these other teams lose and remove all doubts.

 

[LAVol1]

I I’m telling ya, we are gonna get screwed out of the playoff and a Heisman.

Think about this. The playoff selection committee consists of football fans. If you were on the committee and had no affiliation with OSU or UT, wouldn't you rather watch the Cinderella story of the current century, a electric point-producing dynamo with the best strength of schedule (two wins over top 10 teams) vs. one-loss, poor SOS (no wins vs. top 10 teams) OSU coming off a loss at home in their last game of the season? It won't matter, though. OSU will whip UM. BTW, the only win against a top-25 team Michigan has is over-rated Pedophile State U, which has not won a single game against a top-25 opponent. So, win out, the Vols are in. ("Paranoia strikes deep...into your life it will creep").

 

[pimo1]

I was watching a CBS SEC game of the week preview on YouTube for the Missouri game and Dennis Dodd said that we need Ohio State to beat Michigan because that knocks Michigan out. I agree on that but he also said that if Michigan beats Ohio State then Ohio State wouldn’t drop out of the top 4. Why would they not? We were 1 lost to 3 away and dropped to 5. Ohio State is 1 and would lose to 3 and would have their loss at the end of the season on their own field while we would finish strong with 3 wins with two on the road.

We won’t get to play for a conference championship and neither would Ohio State. They also keep saying that conference championships carry more weight. Why does their loss carry less weight than ours in the same exact scenario? He did say margin of victory matters. We lost by 14 as the visitor at Georgia. Ohio state would have lost on their home field to Michigan which is good for at least a 7 point difference between our loss away and their loss at home as far and point spread prediction assuming they lost to Michigan by a touchdown or less. I’m telling ya, we are gonna get screwed out of the playoff and a Heisman.

The fact Bama took an extra L hurt us a lot.. Kentucky losing to Vandy hurt us also. SOS and SOR are very important to to the selection committee. If Michigan were to beat OSU it would really come down to HOW they beat them. If its a close game Ohio state is in if they get spanked its a different story.

Reality is the teams we have to worry most about right now or USCe, Vandy, TCU and USC.

We have to spank USCe and Vandy if either of those games is close it does not help us.
If USC wins out and wins their conference it gets complicated.
TCU if they win out that's a big problem.

We gotta hang fifty these last 2 games and make a point. On top of that Hoker has to show out. If we go into selection with him the Heisman frontrunner its hard for them to keep us out. His Heisman hopes are kind of in danger mostly because of how good he's been. He was pulled early in 4 games so far... Stroud has been pulled a few times but much later in games. Imagine if instead of 2900ish yards and 24 tds he had 3400 and 29? Heisman discussion would be over. Yeah Strouds thrown for more td's (34) but he has less yards, lower QBR and 4 ints (vs hookers 2) and no rushing TD's (to hookers 5). These last 2 games are opportunities for Hooker to close the gap. I don't think Stroud throws 3+ td's vs Michigan but I'm sure Hookers can get 3-4 on Vandy if not more. Maryland is a pretty similar team to USCe statistically on both sides of the ball.

If we make the playoffs that would be great.. but honestly I think the Heisman is the bigger prize long-term and more realistic. This is revenge for Peyton.

 

[cgrish]

It seems like a slam dunk that we should be in the playoffs if we win out. But I think the only teams to get the benefit of the doubt from not winning their divisions are Alabama and Ohio State (2017 and 2016). By losing, and not just losing but getting dominated, to Georgia, we are at the mercy of an untrustworthy committee. They can twist things to fit whatever narrative they want. We can debate this till the cows come home, but unless USC, TCU, and Clemson all lose a game (and I've even someone suggest that if TCU loses once but then wins the Big12 championship they'd still get the nod over us), we're going to be sweating it out until they announce the teams.

I think it would be ridiculous to put LSU in over us given the fact that we crushed them and would have a better record, but they could spin it as "LSU is clearly a different team now and playing its best football. Winning the SEC championship over the #1 team demonstrates they belong, whereas Tennessee's beatdown by Georgia proves they don't."

I think it would be ridiculous to put a 1-loss TCU or 1-loss Clemson or 1-loss USC in over us, but they can spin those as "these teams won a P5 conference championship while Tennessee couldn't win its own division."

I think it would be ridiculous to put a 1-loss Michigan who also didn't win its own division in over us, but they can spin that as "Michigan battled Ohio State to a much closer game than Tennessee did against Georgia."

I seriously doubt any of the cfp committee watches all these games. All they know is Ga beat us 14 points at Ga. I doubt they even know they dominated us, just looking at the score.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

OP couldnt read your post bc this is all I see

 

[CPVOL]

Ohio state is in, win or lose against Michigan. The media, ESPN, and big money will demand it.

I said this weeks ago. A 1 loss Ohio St has nothing to fear. ESPN will make sure they make it in. The issue I see is TCU. They may very well get in BUT there’s gonna be a lot of hand wringing when Ga beats them 42-0.

 

[Clayton]

I seriously doubt any of the cfp committee watches all these games. All they know is Ga beat us 14 points at Ga. I doubt they even know they dominated us, just looking at the score.

The committee chairmen has been quoted as viewing the Oregon and Tennessee losses to UGA as “being viewed the same”. They look at the game and not just the final score

 

[volfeeva]

If Taylor Swift has apologized for the ticket fiasco, I'm willing to forgive her.

 

[Volholic]

We could win the NC and still get no respect. We're the Rodney Dangerfield of CF.

We did and we didn’t get any respect. I was there.

 

[photovol]

I was watching a CBS SEC game of the week preview on YouTube for the Missouri game and Dennis Dodd said that we need Ohio State to beat Michigan because that knocks Michigan out. I agree on that but he also said that if Michigan beats Ohio State then Ohio State wouldn’t drop out of the top 4. Why would they not? We were 1 lost to 3 away and dropped to 5. Ohio State is 1 and would lose to 3 and would have their loss at the end of the season on their own field while we would finish strong with 3 wins with two on the road.

We won’t get to play for a conference championship and neither would Ohio State. They also keep saying that conference championships carry more weight. Why does their loss carry less weight than ours in the same exact scenario? He did say margin of victory matters. We lost by 14 as the visitor at Georgia. Ohio state would have lost on their home field to Michigan which is good for at least a 7 point difference between our loss away and their loss at home as far and point spread prediction assuming they lost to Michigan by a touchdown or less. I’m telling ya, we are gonna get screwed out of the playoff and a Heisman.

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