TP/conservative racism?

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If the TP is racist then why is it that Herman Cain's surge seems to be largely fueled by the support of the TP and likeminded conservatives?
 
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to quote on of the great thinkers of our time:

Herman Cain is probably well liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the racist elements of the Republican party. Conservative movement and tea party movement, one in the same.
 
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Which "thinker" would that be? Kind of odd to favor a self-made, "uppity" black man over a bunch of white guys just to "hide" racism, don't you think?

I like Cain. Have from the start. I wish he had not stumbled over the Muslim thing. That could still bite him. If he would come out soon and apologize for not being clear on the issue, he could short fuse it.
 
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sjt18 said:
The left still counts her as a great thinker along side Oprah, Mahrer, and Stewart... don't they?
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They say great thinker, we say panderer. To the left, it's tomato-tomato.
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sjt18 said:
If the TP is racist then why is it that Herman Cain's surge seems to be largely fueled by the support of the TP and likeminded conservatives?
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Sheesz.

The support moving to Cain is because Perry's campaign has gone utterly flat and the TP cannot stand Mitt Romney. The Cain numbers are purely anti-Romney and therefore incredibly soft.

Cain has no chance at the nomination.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sheesz.

The support moving to Cain is because Perry's campaign has gone utterly flat and the TP cannot stand Mitt Romney. The Cain numbers are purely anti-Romney and therefore incredibly soft.

Cain has no chance at the nomination.
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You just can't accept it can you? The TP is NOT racist. Conservatives by and large want the "color blind" society that MLK talked about. It is somehow necessary for you to villify those who disagree with you since you can't win by a reasoned discussion of ideals and policies. You certainly cannot win based on results of your preferred policies and leaders.

Cain's support has LONG come from TPers/conservatives. As long as he continues to stay on a conservative economic message his support will NOT be soft in any way. More conservatives as they get a chance to compare the candidates are being attracted to his message, his story, and to him as a leader. He is revealing himself to be what MOST conservatives were looking for.

You are so delusional that "I" am even embarrassed for you at times. You are trying to evade the obvious. The "right" has largely gotten over race... it is the left that still clings to the past and impedes our uniting for the future.
 
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sjt18 said:
You just can't accept it can you? The TP is NOT racist. Conservatives by and large want the "color blind" society that MLK talked about. It is somehow necessary for you to villify those who disagree with you since you can't win by a reasoned discussion of ideals and policies. You certainly cannot win based on results of your preferred policies and leaders.

Cain's support has LONG come from TPers/conservatives. As long as he continues to stay on a conservative economic message his support will NOT be soft in any way. More conservatives as they get a chance to compare the candidates are being attracted to his message, his story, and to him as a leader. He is revealing himself to be what MOST conservatives were looking for.

You are so delusional that "I" am even embarrassed for you at times. You are trying to evade the obvious. The "right" has largely gotten over race... it is the left that still clings to the past and impedes our uniting for the future.
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Cain cannot win the GOP nomination.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Cain cannot win the GOP nomination.
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Yes. He can.

I cannot say he will. There are too many factors unfortunately that have nothing to do with the quality of the candidate or their ideals or the degree to which the avg Joe Voter likes them... primarily media treatment and money. But make no mistake, conservatives are the "king makers" in the GOP now. Cain has to keep winning their votes but he very much CAN win the nomination.

You consistently show that you know very little about what conservatives think or believe but frequently draw conclusions for them.

You are simply wrong... again.
 
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Oh... and you VASTLY underestimate the appeal of Cain's tax ideas to the conservative base.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sheesz.

The support moving to Cain is because Perry's campaign has gone utterly flat and the TP cannot stand Mitt Romney. The Cain numbers are purely anti-Romney and therefore incredibly soft.

Cain has no chance at the nomination.
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So you think the TP would turn their back on its racist views just to stick it to Romney?
 
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BeecherVol said:
So you think the TP would turn their back on its racist views just to stick it to Romney?
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I'm saying that the nomination is still quite some time away. The GOP is telling pollsters things to send messages, kind of carve out what matters to them.

Mitt Romney is a moderate. But he's electable. Folks are choosing between sticking to their guns that they want a truly right wing nominee versus whether they want to win. Its a case of their core values battling against their urgent hatred of Obama.

Romney can win and get rid of Obama, and in the end that would certainly be enough to get out the vote for the GOP big time. You could nominate a rocking chair and the far right would turn out just to vote against Obama.

But right now that is all pretty far off. Now is the time to register discontent with the party by picking folks far from the mainstream, without the support of the standard party elite.

Its going to be Romney and Perry at the end of the day, and there is going to indeed be a sharp divide on the decision between the Mormon governor from Mass with all the money behind him who enacted health insurance reform, versus the Christian who might be a bit harder to get elected in the general.

Cain will not be a part of the real discussion, at any point.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I'm saying that the nomination is still quite some time away. The GOP is telling pollsters things to send messages, kind of carve out what matters to them.

Mitt Romney is a moderate. But he's electable. Folks are choosing between sticking to their guns that they want a truly right wing nominee versus whether they want to win. Its a case of their core values battling against their urgent hatred of Obama.

Romney can win and get rid of Obama, and in the end that would certainly be enough to get out the vote for the GOP big time. You could nominate a rocking chair and the far right would turn out just to vote against Obama.

But right now that is all pretty far off. Now is the time to register discontent with the party by picking folks far from the mainstream, without the support of the standard party elite.

Its going to be Romney and Perry at the end of the day, and there is going to indeed be a sharp divide on the decision between the Mormon governor from Mass with all the money behind him who enacted health insurance reform, versus the Christian who might be a bit harder to get elected in the general.

Cain will not be a part of the real discussion, at any point.
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I agree, in the end the "rocking chair" will get the vote whoever that is.

Just trying to figure out how the TP can even whisper Cain's name (serious or not) and stick to the racial divide.
 
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sjt18 said:
If the TP is racist then why is it that Herman Cain's surge seems to be largely fueled by the support of the TP and likeminded conservatives?
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Well the answer is obvious. Herman Cain doesn't count as a black guy because he's an Uncle Tom. Don't you know black people aren't allowed to think for themselves. They have to tow the Democratic line.
 
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BeecherVol said:
I agree, in the end the "rocking chair" will get the vote whoever that is.

Just trying to figure out how the TP can even whisper Cain's name (serious or not) and stick to the racial divide.
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The key is your phrase "serious or not." Support for him is razor thin and is registering discontent with both Perry and Romney more than anything else. The folks picking Cain in a telephone poll do it as a gimmick. They'd never actually vote for him in a primary.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The key is your phrase "serious or not." Support for him is razor thin and is registering discontent with both Perry and Romney more than anything else. The folks picking Cain in a telephone poll do it as a gimmick. They'd never actually vote for him in a primary.
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You made my original point again.
 
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dreVol said:
Just curious, why Santorum? He's so socially conservative that I think he'd alienate too many voters.
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Rubio to guarantee Florida, Santorum to keep the TP from throwing a tantrum and doing something goofy, like a third party run.
 
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theFallGuy said:
My prediction for the ticket

Mitt Romney - Pres
Herman Cain - VP
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That would be a great ticket and one that I would vote for in a heartbeat. Will abstain from voting if the GOP nominates Perry. Wouldn't mind seeing Hunstman on the ticket either
 
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I really want Cain on the ticket.

I think Romney and Cain both have that business sense that is desperately needed right now. Romney as a little more political experience to bring to the table.

I'm not a big fan of Romney though, to be honest.
 
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theFallGuy said:
I really want Cain on the ticket.

I think Romney and Cain both have that business sense that is desperately needed right now. Romney as a little more political experience to bring to the table.

I'm not a big fan of Romney though, to be honest.
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You know what?

No one is.


But he's been running for about 5 years and he's locked up a lot of big money support. He looks the part and he won't f it up.

He's bland, yes, but he can beat Obama and that's enough for most people. Cain is too likely to say or do something incredibly stupid and blow it.
 
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