Tressell vs. Petrino

#26
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chumleypm said:
OK fine, let me put it like this:
I think Bobby Petrino is the best coach, the cheapest also, that is realistically available right now. How do you feel about that?
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It's plausible, but it doesn't really matter from my perspective.
 
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EBFVOL said:
Football games aren't won in the bedroom, under a desk or in the pulpit and I don't care who my football coach sleeps with because it's his personal life not his professional life.

Games are won in the lockerroom , practice field and hopefully on the hallowed ground of Neyland.. I personally think Petrino and his experience in the SEC and success gives him a HUGE edge. Sweater vest didn't fair that well from my memory of BCS encounters with the SEC.
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Yeah...but some of these mothers of recruits do care....when you can,t get in the doors of recruits homes it makes it tough to build a team...
 
#29
#29
All that I care about is the fact that Bob Petrino is a better play caller.
 
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slickstirs said:
Yeah...but some of these mothers of recruits do care....when you can,t get in the doors of recruits homes it makes it tough to build a team...
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Look, if Bama was winning NC's every year and Saban was busting every Whore he could find, Bama would be getting 5* regardless.
 
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PennVol said:
Would love to have Tressel.
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Exactly...I mean apply the very same "show cause" to Nick Saban. Would you'd be willing to sit him for 5 games (possibly less) and accept a little bad PR initially in order to land the BIG FISH? If you would, then you should have no problem taking Tressel.

Look. We are walking a tight rope as it is. We'd risk someone like Petrino or Franklin screwing it up before Tressel. He's a very good man. Not cocky like Kiffin. Not a sleazebag like Petrino. He didn't think his players actions constituted an infraction of any kind...a year later, the NCAA disagreed. It's not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be. Not every car accident is a fatal one. This show cause is not a coaching death penalty. Far from it.

Given a little time, some team will swoop in and snatch him up. He's just too big of a fish not to.
 
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#34
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GAVol said:
Thats cute and all, but you can't just dismiss it like that.

No employer is going to ignore the past of a job candidate that lied to his last boss and exposed his previous employer to legal issues.
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Bottom line. Both coaches can definitely win but who wants the baggage/liability? :good!:
 
#35
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VOLnMiami said:
Petrino can win in the SEC...Tressel has only beaten ONE SEC team...Petrino's hogs...That said Petrino is a great hire for whoever gets him...He will turn whoever gets him around quickly...Sadly I doubt We go after him at all...Got a great coach out there that made a mistake and now he is right in front of us and We refuse to go after him....Damn
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Petrino gets stomped by the big boys. Do not want. Plus he lost heads up to Tressel
 
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The only thing about BP is that i think that parents would not be in favor of letting their child play for him. He is a good coach though.
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
The only thing about BP is that i think that parents would not be in favor of letting their child play for him. He is a good coach though.
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Before the scandal, I'd be in agreement. But because coach can't keep his nose clean off the field, he has no standing to hold 18-21yr old athletes accountable for their off the field behavior.

When you lose a few key players (like we did with Da Rick Rodgers and Janzen, or UGA did with Crowell for example) because they can't keep their nose clean, it can wreck an entire season. Overlooking Petrino's scandal cause he had some success beforehand, would be disastrous. The lunatics would be running the Asylum, so to speak. Kids would tune him out because he compromised himself.

Look at Jimmy Swaggert. He may have been very sorry and contrite....but once a leader in a figure of authority has been compromised, you can't get the toothpaste back in the tube, as it were.
 
#38
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As to records....

Tressel
overall - 229-79-2 (Ohio State - 94-22)
First ever 14-0 season in college football
Had (2) 19 game winning streaks OS
(10) straight bowl appearances...record at 6-4
National Championship 2002
Had 81.0% winning percentage at Ohio State
Lowest Ohio St ranked under Tressel was 19th.
Seven years Ohio State was ranked in the Top 10


Bobby Petrino
Overal - 75-26 (Louisville - 41-9 and Arkansas - 34-17)
2006 Lousiville went 12-1 and finished 6th in coaches poll
2010 Arkansas went 10-3 and finished 12th in coaches poll
2011 Arkansas went 11-2 and finished 5th in coaches poll
OC with Auburn in 2002...team finished with 9-4 record
1994 OC for Nevada...team was 3rd in Nation scoring, 2nd passing and 2nd total offense
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Exactly...I mean apply the very same "show cause" to Nick Saban. Would you'd be willing to sit him for 5 games (possibly less) and accept a little bad PR initially in order to land the BIG FISH? If you would, then you should have no problem taking Tressel.

Look. We are walking a tight rope as it is. We'd risk someone like Petrino or Franklin screwing it up before Tressel. He's a very good man. Not cocky like Kiffin. Not a sleazebag like Petrino. He didn't think his players actions constituted an infraction of any kind...a year later, the NCAA disagreed. It's not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be. Not every car accident is a fatal one. This show cause is not a coaching death penalty. Far from it.

Given a little time, some team will swoop in and snatch him up. He's just too big of a fish not to.
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As I have been considering him, this is pretty much how I feel. I believe he will be walking a straightline. I believe the University will be walking a straightline. I think he could lay a really good foundation. He won't coach for many years, but I don't think it will take long before we would be a top 10 team again. He is still on my short list.
 
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Why does Tressell only face a 5 game suspension. I thought his penalty was much longer than that. A show cause is very serious.

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Contrary to popular belief, an NCAA member school is allowed to hire a coach with a show-cause order outstanding. In practice, however, the show-cause restrictions make it prohibitively difficult for a coach with a show-cause order to get another collegiate job. As mentioned above, any school that hires a coach with a show-cause order in effect can be penalized merely for doing so. Additionally, that school can face severe penalties if a coach commits another violation during the length of the penalty. Consequently, most schools will not even consider hiring a coach with a show-cause penalty in effect. For this reason, a show-cause penalty usually has the effect of blackballing a coach from the collegiate ranks for the duration of the penalty. Many coaches who are given such a penalty never coach again, even after the expiration of the penalty. The penalty is intended to follow a coach for violations that he had a role in committing.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Petrino gets stomped by the big boys. Do not want. Plus he lost heads up to Tressel
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We get stomped by the little boys, plus you can count how many times the big boys have been beaten in the last few years on 1 hand.

Which coach on the lists we've seen has consistently beaten the big boys in the SEC?
No one
Which coach on our list has a 10 and 11 win season in the SEC?
Petrino
 
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#43
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Petrino is the best option imo. He is a proven winner and I dont think he would take the chance to mess it up or he would be done in big time football. Petersen, Patterson, Mora, Stoops, Kelly, etc. none of them guys are coming to TN.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Petrino can win in the SEC...Tressel has only beaten ONE SEC team...Petrino's hogs...That said Petrino is a great hire for whoever gets him...He will turn whoever gets him around quickly...Sadly I doubt We go after him at all...Got a great coach out there that made a mistake and now he is right in front of us and We refuse to go after him....Damn
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agreed...
If Gruden is done, I'll take Petrino
 
#45
#45
When petrino wins a lot of ball games (and he will wherever he goes) nobody will talk about this stuff.he may have trouble rexruiting a few years, but eventually that will go away. College football is a big business and at the end of the day the fans just want a winner.

If we can't land a big time coach, roll the dice on petrino.
 
#46
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If we got Petrino, how ironic would that be for the kids he recruited to Arkansas! Especially the ones that were considering UT (peters), where it was noted that Petrino told those kids "why go to UT, you don't know who your coach will be next year!"

Ironic.


I'd be okay with Petrino, but worry he'd move on after he started getting success. I'd be very much down for Tressel, but that ain't going to happen, it's too risky.
 
#48
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Petrino teams never had a good Defense , only offense , with that Tressell would be better and to say he cannot beat the SEC is wrong you cannot compare a bcs game once a year to all games in the SEC
 
#49
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Spawn said:
Some fuel for the discussion. Saw this early today. Tressel favorite.

Jim Tressel Is A Betting Favorite For Tennessee Volunteers Head Coaching Job - FanSided - Sports News - An Independent Sports Network
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Something I noticed in that article. Would UT not be allowed in a bowl game if it hired JT or would he just not be able to coach in it? This article is different from others I have seen. IMO, either way he should not be hired. You don't poke the angry bear and that is what UT would be doing on probation and hiring a coach with a show cause. (NCAA being the bear).
 
#50
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I could get behind Tressel, I think Petrino is better and more realistic. Would UT hire Tressel and his NCAA violations and show cause seeing as we just got our probation extended? I'm not sure about it.
 
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