Tressell vs. Petrino

#51
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volsfan30093 said:
Petrino teams never had a good Defense , only offense , with that Tressell would be better and to say he cannot beat the SEC is wrong you cannot compare a bcs game once a year to all games in the SEC
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I might see that the other way actually. I would think only playing an SEC team in bowl games would make it easier to win VS getting beat up all through an SEC season. JT is a solid coach IMO. Just not what we need right now with where we are.
 
#53
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One reason why I think both Tressel and Petrino ae at the top is simply because they are not tied to any program right now. This is a real touchy time of the year for HC's to leave one program for another. With Bowls in play and recruiting around the corner it's some pressure to either go or stay. With cordinators it's a different story.

Also the fact other programs are looking and no doubt everyone has some of the same names on their list. Sure he would have to sit for five games and no bowl the first season...like we're expected to but did any of that hold Ohio State back this year? It would take one season no matter who we got to straight out the ship in the right direction. The clock is ticking
 
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Volzilla said:
One reason why I think both Tressel and Petrino ae at the top is simply because they are not tied to any program right now. This is a real touchy time of the year for HC's to leave one program for another. With Bowls in play and recruiting around the corner it's some pressure to either go or stay. With cordinators it's a different story.

Also the fact other programs are looking and no doubt everyone has some of the same names on their list. Sure he would have to sit for five games and no bowl the first season...like we're expected to but did any of that hold Ohio State back this year? It would take one season no matter who we got to straight out the ship in the right direction. The clock is ticking
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IF we decided to hire JT, I would almost rather Hart allow Chaney to coach this whole year then. JT could not coach fall practice, 5 games, and a month during bowl prep. We would be paying the man alot of money to coach for 7 weeks.
 
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GAVol said:
Thats cute and all, but you can't just dismiss it like that.

No employer is going to ignore the past of a job candidate that lied to his last boss and exposed his previous employer to legal issues.
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This and her atty may be encouraging her to wait until he has a high paying job again to file suit against Petrino as well as the school. It would be a difficult sell this late in the game seeing as how the affair didn't exactly wreck her life. She married her fiancee anyway. But if you think ESPN hates us, wait until reports from Inside Edition show up for interviews/press conferences.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I might see that the other way actually. I would think only playing an SEC team in bowl games would make it easier to win VS getting beat up all through an SEC season. JT is a solid coach IMO. Just not what we need right now with where we are.
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I see your point, I sure would not want to see us in more trouble, but i do think tressell has paid his fine UT had a pretty good offense with Chaney but we had no defense, and Petrino in my opionion is no better than Chaney with offense putting up over 30 points a game. Petrino even at L-ville didn't have a defense and Arkansas defense was horriable. when arkansas won games it was a shoot out game with offense. Ohio State did not just go 12-0 for a reason, good recruitting played a good part in it. and thats what my point is we need good recruitting to get back to the glory days.
 
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#57
Is Petrino still married? Don't know any particulars about Petrino's arky indiscetion, bow can his mistress file a sexual harassment complain when they had a consensual relationship?

I'm not a big fan of Tressell--the big 10 has been down a long time--and he seems dull besides. Petrino would tempt me, if I were Hart. He's a damn good coach and knows the SEC, and you could probably structure a contract on favorable terms to the university: You'd be getting great value for an excellent coach, unlike Gruden. Petrino is a bit risky--but he knows that he's got to keep his nose clean now or his coaching career is OVER. That's a pretty big incentive? Is he still married? We'd take a PR hit if we hired him, and would have to exercise some PR savvy ourselves (America is a nation of secondo chances!), but once he settled in and won a few games everybody would forget about his stupid actions in arkansas. I don't dismiss his actions--but a good program is going to hire the guy and get a damn good coach, and so why not us?
 
#60
#60
Is there anyway that UT and Tressel could get the penalties reduced? Considering what I read it isn't as bad as what others have done.
 
#61
#61
lived in I Ohio during the tressel years and saw them live and on TV a lot. tressell is a very very conservative coach on the field and. never beat a single sec team he played. Guy would get smoked here.
 
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GoVolsToTheWalls said:
Is there anyway that UT and Tressel could get the penalties reduced? Considering what I read it isn't as bad as what others have done.[/QUOTE

They could ask, but I seriously doubt it would happen. If JT were hired by a school with no past issues, I might could see it. A school hiring him who just had more probation added screams of "show cause means nothing to us". JT would miss a big portion of his entire 1st year on the job. How in the world can UT fans think that would be best for this program with where we are?
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NEOCON said:
lived in I Ohio during the tressel years and saw them live and on TV a lot. tressell is a very very conservative coach on the field and. never beat a single sec team he played. Guy would get smoked here.
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he beat Arkansas in the sugar bowl
 
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#67
Both are bad choices for us in their current circumstances. Petrino has some image repair to do or he'll never be able to recruit well again and Tressel never won against the SEC. Not sure how they'll go about fixing either of those issues nor do I care.
 
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#70
If I had to pick between the 2, it would be Petrino for me. A couple wins VS ranked teams and all would be forgot about Motorbikegate. JT and his show cause would be hanging over us for 5 years.
 
#72
#72
Looking at the schedule, we will probably go 3-2 in the first 5 games, regardless of which coach is at the helm. I say roll the dice with Tressel.
 
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IndVolFan said:
Looking at the schedule, we will probably go 3-2 in the first 5 games, regardless of which coach is at the helm. I say roll the dice with Tressel.
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Yeah...two losses are pretty much a given early anyway. Then after the five games...look out...
 
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TSwafford said:
he beat Arkansas in the sugar bowl
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Yes, he won by knowingly using players that he knew had violated NCAA rules and had actively tried to cover. Remember that the scandal was already public knowledge before the bowl game. He made the players promise to return for the next season to face their penalties. After they barely won, the NCAA heat turned up. Then Tressel was fired and surprise, surprise Terrell Pryor left college for the supplemental NFL draft.

The idea of hiring Tressel while he is under a show-cause and we are on probation is just silly. A single major infraction with any coach could crash the program with penalties far worse than what USC got, and would probably approach what Penn State got. That same infraction while Tressel is under show-cause and we are on probation would result in a penalty closer to what SMU got hit with in the 80s.

Some people have stated that the tattoo parlor scandal wasn't "that bad" and maybe he could be trusted. Covering up indiscretions by his players wasn't new to him. He had been doing it a while, even before he was at Ohio State. Sports Illustrated published quite an article about it. SI investigation reveals eight-year pattern of violations under Tressel
 
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