Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

[Halph66]

He was shot at by a gunman that got off 8 rounds. Shrapnel or a bullet or glass... It was close enough.

And two others were injured and one person lost their life.

 

[KB5252]

SMH. And I thought you were only hugely ignorant of economics. Clearly, you're not a small business owner.

Had the federal government not intervened during the pandemic to prop up our economy, likely tens of thousands of small businesses would have gone out of business. Period. This is not debatable. This would have likely resulted in an extended period of economic pain and additional unemployment (read: recession).

You mean the shutdowns that we perpetuated ignorantly with the government leading the charge?

We are still dealing with residual effects of poor policy and leadership from the pandemic. All the government did was perpetuate the problem and rescue people with money they didn't have. Yay government!

 

[MontyPython]

Never would have happened if the govt was honest about covid and let the economy run on its own. They need you to need them

That's insanity. The pandemic was all a hoax, huh? Christ.

 

[MontyPython]

If you use "likely" in your prediction, I think it is, by definition, debatable.

Likely modifies the number of businesses that would have gone belly-up not whether mass bankruptcies would have occurred.

 

[MontyPython]

LOL Why would so many small businesses gone under? Because idiot governors and mayors chose to shut them down. They picked who and what was "essential" instead of letting their people decide. Those poor decisions along with the bad decisions to pump money into an economy where production was curtailed is what brought about the inflation we are all dealing with. And you claim to understand economics lol.

Our small business thrived during covid, how you ask? We decided that we were NOT going to shut down and would continue to operate as normally as we could. Many of our competitors did draw back or even shut down for a time, that opened the door for us to have the biggest expansion in our history.

Have you ever heard the phrase "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"? If you haven't you should really think about it.

Describe your business.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't understand what you are saying. You DO get the same rate of return. And it isn't lost on me that I will have to live a long time before recouping what was taken. And I absolutely agree that it is forced wealth redistribution. I would have opted out fifteen years ago and let them keep what they had already taken. What I think should happen is that automatic paycheck deductions should cease and everyone should have to write a check to the .gov every month to cover what they "owe". The revolt will make the Boston tea party look like a ladies flower club meeting.

Most people don't even know that the company has to pay the same SS/MC as the employee does on their behalf. It's doesn't seem like a lot of money on the surface but it's a ton. If every American got to put that money into their own investment account, they'd all probably have 7 figures or more in their bank account by the time they retired if they started work early.

 

[MontyPython]

You mean the shutdowns that we perpetuated ignorantly with the government leading the charge?

We are still dealing with residual effects of poor policy and leadership from the pandemic. All the government did was perpetuate the problem and rescue people with money they didn't have. Yay government!

Curious... the last great pandemic of circa 1918 killed 25 million people.

This was a hoax, too, right?

 

[hog88]

Describe your business.

Essential

 

[hog88]

Most people don't even know that the company has to pay the same SS/MC as the employee does on their behalf. It's doesn't seem like a lot of money on the surface but it's a ton. If every American got to put that money into their own investment account, they'd all probably have 7 figures or more in their bank account by the time they retired if they started work early.

The biggest enemy of the federal government is a populace of people who doesn't need them.

 

[MontyPython]

Essential

Transexual Barbie doll hair brushes are not essential, Hogg.

 

[hog88]

Curious... the last great pandemic of circa 1918 killed 25 million people.

This was a hoax, too, right?

Not even a million died in the US during the spanish flu epidemic and the country did not shut down.

 

[hog88]

Transexual Barbie doll hair brushes are not essential, Hogg.

Says you. And that was the problem, idiots deciding what was essential.

 

[utvolpj]

That's insanity. The pandemic was all a hoax, huh? Christ.

No the overreacting and misinformation was the hoax. The majority of people were in no danger and the safety protocols put in place were useless. There was no reason to destroy the economy for cloth masks

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I loved the ERC waste from Covid and my 15 year old (at the time) loved making 3x what he was making by not working...

 

[McDad]

Likely modifies the number of businesses that would have gone belly-up not whether mass bankruptcies would have occurred.

Agreed. The number of business which would have gone out of business is debatable.

You are aware you didn't mention anything about mass bankruptcies in the post to which I replied, right?

 

[KB5252]

Curious... the last great pandemic of circa 1918 killed 25 million people.

This was a hoax, too, right?

We've inflated a death count to over 1 million deaths.

What we did was bad policy. I didn't call COVID a hoax. I'm calling our governments reaction to it irresponsible and agenda driven. There's not another viable explanation that excludes mental gymnastics.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't disagree. NASA has been proven inferior to SpaceX in some if not many respects. But... and there's a big but...

What about the fact that SpaceX is largely controlled by one person, Elon Musk? Lately, he's become more and more political - purportedly he's donating $45M per month to the Trump campaign - and he's becoming more and more outspoken against our own government.

Russians are reportedly testing new anti-satellite weapons in space. Chinese are launching more satellites as we speak. Most rational people view these countries as our 'enemies'. But, what if Elon Musk - and hence SpaceX - don't? What if the political views of (in this case) the richest man in the world don't jive with our own government's positions? We've already seen this play out with Starlink within the war between Russia and Ukraine.

What power, if any, does our government hold over SpaceX? When (or does) it become a problem that space travel / exploration is effectively controlled by a singular private firm?

I don't care that it is controlled by one person. I would cheer just as much for any other private space company ran by any billionaire, if it produced results. heck I would cheer just as much for NASA itself if it got the results. or Boeing, lol.

his outspokenness is directed at the things that impact him, or his companies. I would rather he be outspoken, move his companies out of California for their bad policies, and keep producing results. instead of just being another Boeing-esque yes man who stays in California and stops progressing.

he is a private individual, he is free to donate however much he wants to whatever politician he wants. Does it bother you equally that one guy owns the largest commercial industry in this nation with Amazon & Bezos (who has his own space company)? he donates millions. Buffet owns a large chunk of this nations logistical capacity, especially railroads? he donates millions. What about Soros, he donates?

I imagine your dislike is purely politically based (he gives to someone you don't like) rather than the objective dislike of billionaires donating in general. that political basis says to me there is nothing wrong with it.

if the government doesn't like it, find someone else. Musk isn't some space genius, he is a billionaire with a vision. plenty of those around, or the government could go out and fund some other private company to get the same results.

I would also say that its a good thing if Musk is standing up to the government if he disagrees with them. that is his right. the people should ALWAYS be another set of checks and balances on the nation.

 

[LSU-SIU]

We've inflated a death count to over 1 million deaths.

What we did was bad policy. I didn't call COVID a hoax. I'm calling our governments reaction to it irresponsible and agenda driven. There's not another viable explanation that excludes mental gymnastics.

Any government agency telling people to wear a face diaper and social distancing would help in any way has real issues. I have no problem with calling the whole thing a hoax, meaning the full context of what happened.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Most people don't even know that the company has to pay the same SS/MC as the employee does on their behalf. It's doesn't seem like a lot of money on the surface but it's a ton. If every American got to put that money into their own investment account, they'd all probably have 7 figures or more in their bank account by the time they retired if they started work early.

Wonder why we are not allowed to do this?? Could it be a large revenue stream for the government?

 

[LouderVol]

SMH. And I thought you were only hugely ignorant of economics. Clearly, you're not a small business owner.

Had the federal government not intervened during the pandemic to prop up our economy, likely tens of thousands of small businesses would have gone out of business. Period. This is not debatable. This would have likely resulted in an extended period of economic pain and additional unemployment (read: recession).

no they wouldn't have. had the various governments, not just the feds, stayed out of Covid, nothing needed to shut down.

If people needed to be out sick, let them be out sick. just like normal. if they wanted to work from home, let them. if they wanted to wear masks and socially distance, they should have been allowed. if they wanted to take an experimental vaccine with no proven long term data, they should have been allowed. I would have been fine with the government generating some type of universal waiver for those companies if individuals chose to get those experimental vaccines. the government never should have mandated any of that. the government made Covid worse than it was.

 

[LouderVol]

Wonder why we are not allowed to do this?? Could it be a large revenue stream for the government?

control. they need SS to be a political issue so they can stay in power while arguing about it and not actually making any beneficial changes.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Wonder why we are not allowed to do this?? Could it be a large revenue stream for the government?

Because it's a ponzi scheme. I've paid in to pay other's ss check. You young bozos are getting ready to pay for mine.

 

[VolinWayne]

SMH. And I thought you were only hugely ignorant of economics. Clearly, you're not a small business owner.

Had the federal government not intervened during the pandemic to prop up our economy, likely tens of thousands of small businesses would have gone out of business. Period. This is not debatable. This would have likely resulted in an extended period of economic pain and additional unemployment (read: recession).

Are we to simply turn a blind eye to the tens of thousands of small businesses who were forced to close their doors (forever) while the larger chain restaurants and box stores were allowed to stay open......I am one of the fortunate small business owner who made it through and I don't take it for granted...you have no argument here

 

[LouderVol]

Because it's a ponzi scheme. I've paid in to pay other's ss check. You young bozos are getting ready to pay for mine.

^this is the attitude that has lead to the current state of this nation.

yeah, and its the young people who are at fault for ruining this nation.....

 

[InVOLuntary]

^this is the attitude that has lead to the current state of this nation.

yeah, and its the young people who are at fault for ruining this nation.....

So you think I should forgo the 1/10 of 1% that I've paid in? I'm. 100% in favor of abolishing SS. How am I ruining this nation by taking a small portion of what I paid in?