Trump Attempted To Abuse DOJ To Steal The Election

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hUTch2002 said:
Geez dude, are you really this thick or are you just not reading? I expect better from you Septic. Volmain and TerrellesBay I would understand this problem but you aren’t usually this way. I already said they had equal access. I said the changes favored the Democrats, you agreed, yet here you are arguing away. It really is that simple but you keep trying to make ore out of it because of what you think I implied.
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No, you didn't.
 
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canitpro said:
For that to have happened, 5 request forms would have needed to be filled out. Again, they don’t just send ballots out that weren’t applied for
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Well it happened, so apparently someone requested them. Now you bring up a point. If they happened to be just requests for MIB, I highly doubt the state would mail out unsolitictaed "request forms" for MIB that included all homeowners at that address and received 3 ballots for old occupants at the address. That in itself is more problematic than the MIB process itself.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Well it happened, so apparently someone requested them. Now you bring up a point. If they happened to be just requests for MIB, I highly doubt the state would mail out unsolitictaed "request forms" for MIB that included all homeowners at that address and received 3 ballots for old occupants at the address. That in itself is more problamatic than the MIB process itself.
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Voters are only registered with 1 address. So - for what you are saying happened to have happened, three individual former residents of the house had all 3 not changed their address since moving on their registration (What an amazing coincidence!) Then, in addition to that, when the request forms were sent with their names on the envelopes, someone currently residing in the household committed a federal felony 3 times by opening up mail that wasn’t theirs. THEN, they sent all 3 request forms which would have required filling out these 3 aforementioned individuals names and voter registration information!! Amazing! Almost unbelievable the amount of coincidences and felonies required to achieve the result you suggested -- as if it was a made up scenario! You should contact your local paper, I’m sure they would be immediately interested to interview you
 
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canitpro said:
Voters are only registered with 1 address. So - for what you are saying happened to have happened, three individual former residents of the house had all 3 not changed their address since moving on their registration (What an amazing coincidence!) Then, in addition to that, when the request forms were sent with their names on the envelopes, someone currently residing in the household committed a federal felony 3 times by opening up mail that wasn’t theirs. THEN, they sent all 3 request forms which would have required filling out these 3 aforementioned individuals names and voter registration information!! Amazing! Almost unbelievable the amount of coincidences and felonies required to achieve the result you suggested -- as if it was a made up scenario! You should contact your local paper, I’m sure they would be immediately interested to interview you
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What a word salad. For one, you are assuming they were requests, which is ripe with potential fraud in the first place, and accusing my family of felony, which by the way was my Uncle and a medic in the VW. And WTH said they opened them? And even if they did so effin what? You act like this is some gotcha. Like I said piss off
 
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Orangeburst said:
What a word salad. For one, you are assuming they were requests, which is ripe with potential fraud in the first place, and accusing my family of felony, which by the way was my Uncle and a medic in the VW. And WTH said they opened them? And even if they did so effin what? You act like this is some gotcha. Like I said piss off
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Oh, I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I’m saying it didn’t happen — because it would be an anomaly with impossible odds.
 
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canitpro said:
Oh, I’m not accusing anyone of anything. I’m saying it didn’t happen — because it would be an anomaly with impossible odds.
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It happened.
Your logic and narrative of "suppossed" is amazing. You interject this narrative of "suppossed" requesting and "opening mail as a felony" and what not with "all this coincidence" narrative and non of that even occured,
 
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Orangeburst said:
It happened.
Your logic and narrative of "suppossed" is amazing. You interject this narrative of "suppossed" requesting and "opening mail as a felony" and what not with "all this coincidence" narrative and non of that even occured,
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Doubling down. Nice choice
 
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Vol Main said:
You said "He has left states alone to do what they want." Well, Trump did not leave States alone to elect who they wanted, now did he? Ding. Ding. Ding. And your answer to that is he did not do his job to protect the country from a pandemic. Lookit, if you think it is his job to overturn an election he lost, but it is not his job to protect the country from a deadly pandemic, then I think your politics are so hopelessly stupid that they're by definition "evil."

Definition of evil
(Entry 1 of 3)
1a: morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED//an evil impulse
b: arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct//a person of evil reputation
Definition of EVIL
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Your Trump obsession and hate is so strong you have lost the ability for rational thought.
 
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OHvol40 said:
There are no issues with mail in voting. Better get used to it, it’s not going anywhere.
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Mail in voting in and of itself is fine if it’s done correctly. Surely you agree it is easier to commit fraud through mail in voting than in person voting. We need a system that verifies the identity of the voter. If we have a good system then by all means mail away.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Post 103. Are you done with you crap now? I know you’re smarter than this so you’re just not reading.
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You can try and camouflage your nonsense in unearned indignation but yeah, it's not what you said.

At least now we can agree that the mail in ballot system was equally available and that the Dems were smart enough to capitalize on the playing field being at long last, equal.
 
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canitpro said:
Voters are only registered with 1 address. So - for what you are saying happened to have happened, three individual former residents of the house had all 3 not changed their address since moving on their registration (What an amazing coincidence!) Then, in addition to that, when the request forms were sent with their names on the envelopes, someone currently residing in the household committed a federal felony 3 times by opening up mail that wasn’t theirs. THEN, they sent all 3 request forms which would have required filling out these 3 aforementioned individuals names and voter registration information!! Amazing! Almost unbelievable the amount of coincidences and felonies required to achieve the result you suggested -- as if it was a made up scenario! You should contact your local paper, I’m sure they would be immediately interested to interview you
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Absolutely wrong. When a registered voter moves and registers in a new location, there is no cross referencing system to remove the old registration. That's the purpose for removing a voter who hasn't voted in x number of years - a lazy method for assuming the voter moved or died. Dims frequently have or have attempted to stop voter roll purges. Why would they want to allow multiple registrations for a voter or not want to remove the dead from the voter rolls? Likewise why would you seek to limit photo IDs that would identify the voter and the voter's current address?
 
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Septic said:
You can try and camouflage your nonsense in unearned indignation but yeah, it's not what you said.

At least now we can agree that the mail in ballot system was equally available and that the Dems were smart enough to capitalize on the playing field being at long last, equal.
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Wow, I was wrong. You are that thick. I said that from the beginning DA.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Your Trump obsession and hate is so strong you have lost the ability for rational thought.
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Oh yeah? I noticed that you are wrong about almost everything you post. If you're thinking that is a compliment, you're wrong about that, too.
 
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AM64 said:
Absolutely wrong. When a registered voter moves and registers in a new location, there is no cross referencing system to remove the old registration. That's the purpose for removing a voter who hasn't voted in x number of years - a lazy method for assuming the voter moved or died. Dims frequently have or have attempted to stop voter roll purges. Why would they want to allow multiple registrations for a voter or not want to remove the dead from the voter rolls? Likewise why would you seek to limit photo IDs that would identify the voter and the voter's current address?
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For whatever reasons, you might believe that I am absolutely wrong, but I recently relocated and personally experienced everything in my post. I provided my old star driver license, but I had to get another one. Everything had to be provided all over again, with my new address. Photo I.D. was required, along with my birth certificate and evidence of my current address. They like utility bills. Now you want to talk about another topic, voting roll purges. Why this? Why that? Why would anybody commit a felony to try registering twice or voting twice? When I voted by mail, I had to sign a document stating that I was not registered elsewhere. When I phoned my old precinct, a guy told me I would be purged by not voting there, but there is a procedure for doing it. The punishment for voter fraud is severe. Why would anybody risk a $10,000 fine and a year in jail to try voting twice? How many people are that stupid? It rarely happens these days. You can go to jail for voting once, in the wrong precinct. When you register in a new precinct, you're deleted from the old precinct. Unless you have done that recently, you might not be familiar with the current laws or how they are enforced. What have you been doing, listening to talk radio? We have good voting systems. They work.
 
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AM64 said:
Absolutely wrong. When a registered voter moves and registers in a new location, there is no cross referencing system to remove the old registration. That's the purpose for removing a voter who hasn't voted in x number of years - a lazy method for assuming the voter moved or died. Dims frequently have or have attempted to stop voter roll purges. Why would they want to allow multiple registrations for a voter or not want to remove the dead from the voter rolls? Likewise why would you seek to limit photo IDs that would identify the voter and the voter's current address?
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Show me a source stating that one voter has multiple addresses under a single registration.
 
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Vol Main said:
For whatever reasons, you might believe that I am absolutely wrong, but I recently relocated and personally experienced everything in my post. I provided my old star driver license, but I had to get another one. Everything had to be provided all over again, with my new address. Photo I.D. was required, along with my birth certificate and evidence of my current address. They like utility bills. Now you want to talk about another topic, voting roll purges. Why this? Why that? Why would anybody commit a felony to try registering twice or voting twice? When I voted by mail, I had to sign a document stating that I was not registered elsewhere. When I phoned my old precinct, a guy told me I would be purged by not voting there, but there is a procedure for doing it. The punishment for voter fraud is severe. Why would anybody risk a $10,000 fine and a year in jail to try voting twice? How many people are that stupid? It rarely happens these days. You can go to jail for voting once, in the wrong precinct. When you register in a new precinct, you're deleted from the old precinct. Unless you have done that recently, you might not be familiar with the current laws or how they are enforced. What have you been doing, listening to talk radio? We have good voting systems. They work.
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LOL
 
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hUTch2002 said:
The constitution states that the voting rules can be changed by the legislature. The legislature said no and the rules were changed anyway. I’m not talking about court records. Just because a court chooses to not hear a case or rules a certain way doesn’t mean that I’m wrong. It just means they decided not to change what happened. It is what it is and you can’t seem to let that go. I just stated what I believe and you can’t handle it for whatever reason. Relax, you won. Let it go.
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Trump politicized mail-in voting in 2020, but PA Republicans supported expanding it
 
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canitpro said:
Show me a source stating that one voter has multiple addresses under a single registration.
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I think it happens when people move into another State, because the fifty States do not interface their systems for data checks. When people move, they have many things to do and voter registration is down the list. But it is seriously illegal to vote by mail in Tennessee if you are still registered in another State. The thing to do is download the form from the Election Commission in the old state, print it, fill it out, photograph it, and email it to the address provided on the Election Commission web site. Now, if you move in state, it is seriously illegal to vote in the old precinct. You have to call them and get your address and precinct changed.
 
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