Trump Leading Witness Revenge Acts

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Coug said:
First off, he's impeached regardless of removal and that will never go away. Second, the House had ample evidence to not only warrant impeachment but they had enough to warrant removal as well. The only reason removal didn't happen was because the "jury" was rigged.
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Bwaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaa.



You lose
 
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luthervol said:
Look at the 48 hrs since he was voted innocent 52-48.
Imagine him after re-election as a lame duck.
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Imagine if your party put up somebody that wasn’t a socialist , a socialist light and a small town mayor that’s trying hard to convince people he isn’t a socialist , but a moderate . All multimillionaires , along with two multimillionaires buying their way into the run offs . Should have spent less time on ousting Trump and move time on finding someone who could beat him at the polls that would wreck the country .
 
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0nelilreb said:
Imagine if your party put up somebody that wasn’t a socialist , a socialist light and a small town mayor that’s trying hard to convince people he isn’t a socialist , but a moderate . All multimillionaires , along with two multimillionaires buying their way into the run offs . Should have spent less time on ousting Trump and move time on finding someone who could beat him at the polls that would wreck the country .
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Imagine if your party didn't put up a horrendously despicable human.
There will never again be a more moderate democrat than Hillary at the democratic nominee. The whole run a moderate argument falls a little short after the worst choice ever was already picked over the most moderate possible.
 
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0nelilreb said:
So see , one door closes another opens . Why all the misinformation from the media ? It’s almost like there’s an agenda to be pushed .
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Because every other people who testified against Trump got the axe or was forced to retired. Vindman and his brother are lucky because they have somewhere to lie low at for a while. No one is questioning Trump’s power to remove him from the NSC. The question is whether it’s moral and right. It’s not, it’s wrong, vindictive and childish.
 
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luthervol said:
Like they say, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".
Personally, I don't find an increasingly divided and hateful country a beautiful thing.
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When a Dem is in charge you don't seem to have objections. Our country is no more divided now than it was under Obama. The only difference is what party is in power.
 
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carlos86 said:
Because every other person who testified against Trump got the axe or was forced to retired. Vindman and his brother are lucky because they have somewhere to lie low at for a while. No one is questioning Trump’s power to remove him from the NSC. The question is whether it’s moral and right. It’s not, it’s wrong, vindictive and childish.
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It’s right, it’s moral and if Vindman wasn’t high profile he would probably have been sacked. Can you think of any other military officer telling a foreign government to basically ignore the CIC and surviving?
 
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luthervol said:
Imagine if your party didn't put up a horrendously despicable human.
There will never again be a more moderate democrat than Hillary at the democratic nominee. The whole run a moderate argument falls a little short after the worst choice ever was already picked over the most moderate possible.
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Opinions. My opinion is the least despicable choice won in 2016, even though I thought neither deserved the office. See how opinions work.
 
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luthervol said:
Imagine if your party didn't put up a horrendously despicable human.
There will never again be a more moderate democrat than Hillary at the democratic nominee. The whole run a moderate argument falls a little short after the worst choice ever was already picked over the most moderate possible.
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Weezer said:
That also describes Pelosi and Schiff and lots of other politicians.
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Are you just baiting me now?
They are nowhere equal to Trump. Not even close. And they are more that way now than ever precisely because of Trump and Trumpism.
The election of Trump guaranteed an increased divide. That was his strategy (still is) and evidently his appeal.
 
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luthervol said:
Are you just baiting me now?
They are nowhere equal to Trump. Not even close. And they are more that way now than ever precisely because of Trump and Trumpism.
The election of Trump guaranteed an increased divide. That was his strategy (still is) and evidently his appeal.
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In your opinion. There are people who see them as worse than Trump. I certainly saw Hillary as worse than Trump. She rates way higher on my continuum by many, many degrees.

You're arguing an opinion without real facts other than you don't like Trump. I don't like him either, but I don't think he's as bad as you do. Part of the reason why I find your "continuum" arguments so dumb. Continuums are shaped by opinions, and people have differing opinions.
 
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hog88 said:
It’s right, it’s moral and if Vindman wasn’t high profile he would probably have been sacked. Can you think of any other military officer telling a foreign government to basically ignore the CIC and surviving?
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SECDEF Mattis did that for 2 years.
 
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luthervol said:
Are you just baiting me now?
They are nowhere equal to Trump. Not even close. And they are more that way now than ever precisely because of Trump and Trumpism.
The election of Trump guaranteed an increased divide. That was his strategy (still is) and evidently his appeal.
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And as I said before, the country is no more divided now than it was under Obama. The only difference is who's in power, which is what shapes your views.
 
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carlos86 said:
Because every other people who testified against Trump got the axe or was forced to retired. Vindman and his brother are lucky because they have somewhere to lie low at for a while. No one is questioning Trump’s power to remove him from the NSC. The question is whether it’s moral and right. It’s not, it’s wrong, vindictive and childish.
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As Commander In Chief , they also didn’t have a choice being in the military . Just because they did what they thought in their minds was right , doesn’t mean the boss has to keep them in their same positions . I wouldn’t , would you ? How would your job be if you and your boss were paranoid of each other everyday and there was no trust at all between either of you ? I would want out of that position as much as my boss would want me out . The key to all of this as it is with any and all jobs is the word “ Boss “ . If that isn’t your title , you follow what the rules are set by the guy that does have that title .
 
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luthervol said:
Imagine if your party didn't put up a horrendously despicable human.
There will never again be a more moderate democrat than Hillary at the democratic nominee. The whole run a moderate argument falls a little short after the worst choice ever was already picked over the most moderate possible.
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You complain about Trump while the left has a socialist leading the party for POTUS . I didn’t say you needed a moderate , you should have spent your time finding someone that could beat Trump . He will wear that socialism / communism angle out on the trail .
 
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Weezer said:
When a Dem is in charge you don't seem to have objections. Our country is no more divided now than it was under Obama. The only difference is what party is in power.
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It's far more divided and the nature of the division is much worse.
Some found integration to be divisive.
Some found segregation to be divisive.
The divisiveness fueled by segregation and the divisiveness fueled by integration should not be viewed equally.
 
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Weezer said:
Opinions. My opinion is the least despicable choice won in 2016, even though I thought neither deserved the office. See how opinions work.
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Of course I see how that works.
The hope is that enough opinions will change.
 
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luthervol said:
It's far more divided and the nature of the division is much worse.
Some found integration to be divisive.
Some found segregation to be divisive.
The divisiveness fueled by segregation and the divisiveness fueled by integration should not be viewed equally.
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You should quit making dumb, unfounded arguments.
 
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luthervol said:
It's far more divided and the nature of the division is much worse.
Some found integration to be divisive.
Some found segregation to be divisive.
The divisiveness fueled by segregation and the divisiveness fueled by integration should not be viewed equally.
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You keep using that segregation argument only it took laws and removing Democrats to stop that . To stop the riots and political killings by members of those groups rioting , it only took a Democratic President to be gone from the Oval Office . Just like a magic wand was waved , the riots stopped . There seems to be a connection between minorities rioting and Democrats being in the Oval .
 
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