Trump Leading Witness Revenge Acts

#909
#909
1972 Grad said:
I get the feeling that Trump isn't the best choice of someone to f*** over, and expect no response.
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Dems may want to learn to read...

“When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real-life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people, because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight. Always get even. Go after people that go after you. Don’t let people push you around. Always fight back and always get even. It’s a jungle out there, filled with bullies of all kinds who will try to push you around. If you’re afraid to fight back people will think of you as a loser, a ‘schmuck!’ They will know they can get away with insulting you, disrespecting you, and taking advantage of you. Don’t let it happen! Always fight back and get even.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007)

“If someone attacks you, do not hesitate. Go for the jugular.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007)
 
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#910
#910
DynaLo said:
Dems may want to learn to read...

“When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real-life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people, because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight. Always get even. Go after people that go after you. Don’t let people push you around. Always fight back and always get even. It’s a jungle out there, filled with bullies of all kinds who will try to push you around. If you’re afraid to fight back people will think of you as a loser, a ‘schmuck!’ They will know they can get away with insulting you, disrespecting you, and taking advantage of you. Don’t let it happen! Always fight back and get even.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007)

“If someone attacks you, do not hesitate. Go for the jugular.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007)
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That sums it up in a nutshell
 
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#911
#911
RockyTop85 said:
Let’s tweak the analogy to a workplace setting.

Boss comes to me asking for our report. I say “well AM64 did his part but it didn’t include my recommendations so instead of talking to him about it I put it on my desk and didn’t work on it anymore.”

Every boss I’ve ever had would tell me to gtfo.
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That's the problem with congress - there's no unbiased "boss" holding both sides accountable. It's like the inmates have captured the asylum, and whoever has the numbers and throws the biggest temper tantrum wins. And it's actually worse because the screaming little brats make up the rules using the same process. That's right down to throwing away rules that would keep a majority from winning by brute force and now allowing things to pass by a single vote. It's pretty much the textbook definition of an asylum housing a mass of petty, narcissistic, egotistic thugs.
 
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#912
#912
AM64 said:
That's the problem with congress - there's no unbiased "boss" holding both sides accountable. It's like the inmates have captured the asylum, and whoever has the numbers and throws the biggest temper tantrum wins. And it's actually worse because the screaming little brats make up the rules using the same process. That's right down to throwing away rules that would keep a majority from winning by brute force and now allowing things to pass by a single vote. It's pretty much the textbook definition of an asylum housing a mass of petty, narcissistic, egotistic thugs.
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I don’t disagree with any of that.
 
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#915
#915
Mick said:
Did he get access to the RNC servers? Lifelong Republican Comey's shortcomings are legendary.

What does the FBI not getting direct access to the servers and using the same group they have used in the past to analyze the images have to do with Preventing Russia from hacking it anyway? The only people doubting it was Russia are Trump and his minions.
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If the RNC servers weren't hacked, why would they need access to them? The FBI is charged with investigating crimes. If the DNC reports their servers are hacked, you would expect the FBI to investigate. That starts with collecting evidence. Chain of custody says they should be the ones to gather these images themselves and not receive them from a third party. It hampers the investigation.

JMO, but if the DNC didn't want a full investigation, fine. That's their prerogative. But they shouldn't make a deal of it happening if they don't care enough to let there be a full investigation, which IMO means letting the FBI have actual access to their servers.

Not sure where you're going with the insinuation of "lifelong Republican Comey", because the FBI bias against Trump has been documented.

And to answer your one question, the FBI getting access has nothing to do with preventing Russia from hacking the servers in the first place. By that point the deed has been done. Their job at that point is to investigate how it was done and by who. The fact the DNC didn't allow a clear investigation is what leads to doubt. They gave "Trump and his minions" an opening by not fully cooperating.
 
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#916
#916
Weezer said:
If the RNC servers weren't hacked, why would they need access to them? The FBI is charged with investigating crimes. If the DNC reports their servers are hacked, you would expect the FBI to investigate. That starts with collecting evidence. Chain of custody says they should be the ones to gather these images themselves and not receive them from a third party. It hampers the investigation.

JMO, but if the DNC didn't want a full investigation, fine. That's their prerogative. But they shouldn't make a deal of it happening if they don't care enough to let there be a full investigation, which IMO means letting the FBI have actual access to their servers.

Not sure where you're going with the insinuation of "lifelong Republican Comey", because the FBI bias against Trump has been documented.

And to answer your one question, the FBI getting access has nothing to do with preventing Russia from hacking the servers in the first place. By that point the deed has been done. Their job at that point is to investigate how it was done and by who. The fact the DNC didn't allow a clear investigation is what leads to doubt. They gave "Trump and his minions" an opening by not fully cooperating.
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Report: Russian Hackers Had RNC Data But Didn't Release It
“We now have high confidence that they hacked the D.N.C. and the R.N.C., and conspicuously released no documents” from the Republicans,

Put it this way, the only reason you and your like screech it's insufficient is because you want it not to be Russia that hacked them. And like Hillary's email server you feel if all of those emails were in the public sphere it would prove one of the thousand of conspiracies the alt right have created to demonize hillary and the Democrats.

If you were ignorant of the RNC hack, I understand. Now that you know don't you have better questions to ask like why didn't they release the dirt on the republicans?

But here you are peddling the alt right conspiracy that Ukraine actually did the hack.
 
#917
#917
FLVOL69 said:
Bipartisanship to the Democrats equates to capitulation on the Republican side. It’s one of the reasons they hate Trump so much
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That's absurd.
I guess bipartisanship to the Republicans equates to capitulation of the Democratic side. What a belief system you have.
 
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#918
#918
DynaLo said:
Dems may want to learn to read...

“When someone crosses you, my advice is ‘Get even!’ That is not typical advice, but it is real-life advice. If you do not get even, you are just a schmuck! When people wrong you, go after those people, because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I love getting even. I get screwed all the time. I go after people, and you know what? People do not play around with me as much as they do with others. They know that if they do, they are in for a big fight. Always get even. Go after people that go after you. Don’t let people push you around. Always fight back and always get even. It’s a jungle out there, filled with bullies of all kinds who will try to push you around. If you’re afraid to fight back people will think of you as a loser, a ‘schmuck!’ They will know they can get away with insulting you, disrespecting you, and taking advantage of you. Don’t let it happen! Always fight back and get even.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007)

“If someone attacks you, do not hesitate. Go for the jugular.” (Trump: Think Big, 2007)
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What a sad and pathetic human.
 
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#919
luthervol said:
That's absurd.
I guess bipartisanship to the Republicans equates to capitulation of the Democratic side. What a belief system you have.
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First day following politics? The republicans are free to come along.. they just have to ride in the back of the bus. BHO How’s does it feel getting punched in the nuts on a daily basis? The days of you clowns running over the gop are over. 😂
 
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#921
#921
FLVOL69 said:
First day following politics? The republicans are free to come along.. they just have to ride in the back of the bus. BHO How’s does it feel getting punched in the nuts on a daily basis? The days of you clowns running over the gop are over. 😂
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Hardly. I'm sorry for whatever traumatic event you experienced, but it's time to put it behind you and move back into reality.
 
#923
#923
Mick said:
Report: Russian Hackers Had RNC Data But Didn't Release It
“We now have high confidence that they hacked the D.N.C. and the R.N.C., and conspicuously released no documents” from the Republicans,

Put it this way, the only reason you and your like screech it's insufficient is because you want it not to be Russia that hacked them. And like Hillary's email server you feel if all of those emails were in the public sphere it would prove one of the thousand of conspiracies the alt right have created to demonize hillary and the Democrats.

If you were ignorant of the RNC hack, I understand. Now that you know don't you have better questions to ask like why didn't they release the dirt on the republicans?

But here you are peddling the alt right conspiracy that Ukraine actually did the hack.
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I haven't peddled any conspiracy about this. And if the RNC servers were hacked, and no information released, then that supports that the Dems were purposely targeted. But since no information was released from the Republican side, I question if they were indeed successfully hacked?

None of this changes that the DNC servers were reported as hacked, which is a crime. I understand you put everything in the political realm, I do not. What I see is a crime in need of investigation, and I question how the FBI can fully investigate without access to the crime scene?

Now, with rights tp privacy, I support the Dems right to refuse that access. But I also think they forfeit the right of complaint by not allowing that access. It's their job to collect and catalogue the evidence, not to receive it from a third party. If someone breaks into your house and you refuse to let the police investigate, you forfeit the right to be outraged if they can't find the thief. We can agree to disagree, but I question the accuracy of any evidence that doesn't go through proper chain of custody, and since the FBI themselves never saw the servers, no chain of custody was ever established.

Understand, while you are coming at this from a political angle, I'm looking at it from my own belief of a proper investigation. I don't care about the political aspect or ramifications. It was a crime to be investigated and I don't believe it was investigated properly.
 
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#924
Weezer said:
I haven't peddled any conspiracy about this. And if the RNC servers were hacked, and no information released, then that supports that the Dems were purposely targeted. But since no information was released from the Republican side, I question if they were indeed successfully hacked?

None of this changes that the DNC servers were reported as hacked, which is a crime. I understand you put everything in the political realm, I do not. What I see is a crime in need of investigation, and I question how the FBI can fully investigate without access to the crime scene?

Now, with rights tp privacy, I support the Dems right to refuse that access. But I also think they forfeit the right of complaint by not allowing that access. It's their job to collect and catalogue the evidence, not to receive it from a third party. If someone breaks into your house and you refuse to let the police investigate, you forfeit the right to be outraged if they can't find the thief. We can agree to disagree, but I question the accuracy of any evidence that doesn't go through proper chain of custody, and since the FBI themselves never saw the servers, no chain of custody was ever established.

Understand, while you are coming at this from a political angle, I'm looking at it from my own belief of a proper investigation. I don't care about the political aspect or ramifications. It was a crime to be investigated and I don't believe it was investigated properly.
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The fact you're talking about the nefarious nature of a pretty standard practice and whistle past the fact the RNC was hacked is remarkable for you to even suggest you're not peddling a conspiracy. Your logic is completely partisan. You don't believe Russia hacked the DNC and the physical servers will prove it? At the same time you believe Russia didn't get anything from the RNC. The stuff I have stated are facts and all you have is your general distrust of the dems and general acceptance of the repubs.

Even the fence you claim to sit on is propped up by your imagination.
 
#925
#925
Mick said:
The fact you're talking about the nefarious nature of a pretty standard practice and whistle past the fact the RNC was hacked is remarkable for you to even suggest you're not peddling a conspiracy. Your logic is completely partisan. You don't believe Russia hacked the DNC and the physical servers will prove it? At the same time you believe Russia didn't get anything from the RNC. The stuff I have stated are facts and all you have is your general distrust of the dems and general acceptance of the repubs.

Even the fence you claim to sit on is propped up by your imagination.
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Mick, you are completely oblivious. I didn't say "I don't believe Russia hacked the DNC servers". I said there wasn't a proper investigation. And I question all of your assertions because they're shaped by your political bias. What actual tangible proof is there that the RNC servers were hacked if A) They were not made available for access, and B) The RNC never made a criminal complaint? Maybe they were hacked. I honestly don't know. But I do know the DNC made such a claim that they were hacked, then refused a full investigation. I'm sorry the fact I just don't believe everything you say offends you, but I question everything. You seem to have this belief that anyone who doesn't agree with your every word is a "Trumper". You need help, Mick. Not everyone thinks in terms of purely politics.
 
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