Trump Leading Witness Revenge Acts

#951
#951
Mick said:
It's always been Russia. It was never Ukraine.
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Actually, it was both.
-Politico has an article stretching around 14 pages detailing how Ukraine officials sought to interfere in our election.
-DNC/Clinton's hired hand A. Chalupa's activities in Ukraine were to find dirt on the Trump campaign.
-Ukrainian officials were convicted in December 2018 for interference in the election.

These are not disputable facts, and there's more.
Ukraine is on Durham & Barr's docket. The only question is how much more, and whether the information Giuliani turned over to them will incriminate the Bidens.
 
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#952
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NCFisher said:
It's not screeching to emphasize what I (apparently) have been deficient in conveying.

Liu, who won't be ascending to Treasury due the overzealous sentencing recommendations defying DOJ's briefed guidelines, offers as her proof that her legal team produced....the CrowdStrike report! That's not a circular reference, huh?

The DNC hack, attributed to Russia, is the sire of Crossfire Hurricane and foundation of the Russia collusion narrative.

Why would ANYone object to the FBI's requests for independent verification? Why would you predicate an investigation into a presidential campaign on the basis of a redacted report from a private vendor hired on behalf of the DNC and Clinton campaign by....Perkins-Coie, the same law firm that hired Fusion GPS and Steele, on behalf of the DNC and Clinton campaign? That you did not forensically verify?!

If you have an objective bone in your body, you cannot avoid the shady optics, even discounting P-C hiring CrowdStrike. You cannot justify the denial of access to the FBI, nor the downstream claims following which created two investigations into the Trump campaign and presidency. Which turned up squat on the original premise of collusion and conspiracy.

Stop playing dumb as if this is simply fringe distrust; the entire scenario - especially given the Mueller probe results - neon flashes "WTF?"
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I keep telling y'all, Mick isn't "playing."

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Mick said:
You're still screeching. The Russians hacked the DNC server, those findings were verified by the FBI. Your problem is just that, your problem. Nobody cares what fringe outrage or distrust you foster toward the Dems or FBI. It's as if Trump told you personally to be outraged and distrustful.

You're the most annoying type of screech too, long winded and FOS.

Nobody has time for you.
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Point me to the verification and explain exactly how they "verified" it when the only thing FBI received was a redacted report; thank you. EDIT: I do see a report Comey states they "ultimately shared their forensics with us" in testimony, but then complains again about lack of access.

No, it's as if I can see the basis of the two investigations were garbage because the results tell us they were garbage. You're standing in a sewage pit of lies and insisting I'm the one who smells.

You have time for me, Mick. My piercing intellect transfixes you, like a deer in the headlights of a Suburban.
 
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NCFisher said:
Point me to the verification and explain exactly how they "verified" it when the only thing FBI received was a redacted report; thank you.

No, it's as if I can see the basis of the two investigations were garbage because the results tell us they were garbage. You're standing in a sewage pit of lies and insisting I'm the one who smells.

You have time for me, Mick. My piercing intellect transfixes you, like a deer in the headlights of a Suburban.
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More like a suicidal squirrel.
 
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Mick said:
The fact you're talking about the nefarious nature of a pretty standard practice and whistle past the fact the RNC was hacked is remarkable for you to even suggest you're not peddling a conspiracy. Your logic is completely partisan. You don't believe Russia hacked the DNC and the physical servers will prove it? At the same time you believe Russia didn't get anything from the RNC. The stuff I have stated are facts and all you have is your general distrust of the dems and general acceptance of the repubs.

Even the fence you claim to sit on is propped up by your imagination.
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Comparison of hacked documents and the documents on the server would pretty much demonstrate that the particular server was the one hacked. The documents may have been acquired elsewhere ... didn't most of them turn up in the WH at some point? Wouldn't it be worthwhile to know where the actual breech was? Also there's probably a good reason if once the documents were released to know whether they are authentic or if they have been modified. I guess in the end if you want to keep your business private, you should probably take steps to secure it.
 
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AM64 said:
Comparison of hacked documents and the documents on the server would pretty much demonstrate that the particular server was the one hacked. The documents may have been acquired elsewhere ... didn't most of them turn up in the WH at some point? Wouldn't it be worthwhile to know where the actual breech was? Also there's probably a good reason if once the documents were released to know whether they are authentic or if they have been modified. I guess in the end if you want to keep your business private, you should probably take steps to secure it.
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Did anyone suggest they weren't authentic when they were dumped? Did anyone claim it was fake news? They know what was taken and it's easily verifiable. Really it's just like Hillary's emails, you want to know if there was something else, like if they were colluding with the NRA and dirty Russian money. Oh wait, that's on the RNC servers.
 
#958
#958
Well, since I see the Hill’s emails got brought up...that crazy beotch with a security clearance should have faced the exact same consequences that PFC Skippy with a clearance would face if he did exactly what she did.
 
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Mick said:
I gave you the insight into the nature of "images" and the investigative use of them, but you still doubt just for the sake of partisan arguments. like it wasn't done properly by the FBI because you don't trust the Dems. That is what it boils down to.
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Can anyone point me to this post?
 
#964
#964
Mick said:
You're still screeching. The Russians hacked the DNC server, those findings were verified by the FBI. Your problem is just that, your problem. Nobody cares what fringe outrage or distrust you foster toward the Dems or FBI. It's as if Trump told you personally to be outraged and distrustful.

You're the most annoying type of screech too, long winded and FOS.

Nobody has time for you.
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This is what an irrational, lost argument looks like.
 
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NCFisher said:
Liu, who won't be ascending to Treasury due the overzealous sentencing recommendations defying DOJ's briefed guidelines, offers as her proof that her legal team produced....the CrowdStrike report! That's not a circular reference, huh?
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Do you have a source saying that the recommendation in the Stone case wasn’t in accordance with the sentencing guidelines?
 
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Weezer said:
First, I didn't assign that to you in the sense of you specifically. I was addressing the ways in which Russia attempted to influence the election. I don't think Facebook ads were a serious threat like some try to pretend. As for Obama getting the blame, he was the President at the time. It's like being the coach of a team. Whatever happens, good or bad, ultimately falls at your feet because you're the man in charge. If it happens in the next election, it will be Trump's fault, because he's the President. Blame like that comes with the job. It's called responsibility, and when you run for the office, you choose to accept it.
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I never bought into the Facebook thing until I started seeing how much complete horse **** gets posted as truth on here. Memes touted as factual that are easily debunked if you do 3 minutes of research. Confirmation bias is alive and well here. How many times have you seen the photo of McCain supposedly with ISIS leadership? Two minutes of research and it’s bs. Or the one of Obama in his college years with a foreigner in it. Many claim it’s a Saudi Prince. No proof. Then they extrapolate that to claim that this Prince paid for Obama to go to Harvard. Which is laughable bc the vast majority of students at Harvard don’t pay tuition. I could go on and on.
 
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hog88 said:
I don’t see how Kelly can in anyway interpret an “illegal order” for Vindman out of that call. He’s doing some serious reaching.
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The reach is to keep trying to discount what every rational person on the planet heard from Volker, Taylor, Vindman, Atkinson, Yavanovitch, Holmes, Hill, Kent, McKinley, Cooper, Anderson, Croft, Morrison, Hale, Williams & Sondland and trying to pass it off as simply partisan butthurt.

What Vindman heard and reported was what everyone else has the intellectual honesty to openly recognize. It's OK to admit it, just follow up the admission that you don't believe it was worthy of impeachment - salvage a little dignity.
 
#970
#970
Septic said:
The reach is to keep trying to discount what every rational person on the planet heard from Volker, Taylor, Vindman, Atkinson, Yavanovitch, Holmes, Hill, Kent, McKinley, Cooper, Anderson, Croft, Morrison, Hale, Williams & Sondland and trying to pass it off as simply partisan butthurt.

What Vindman heard and reported was what everyone else has the intellectual honesty to openly recognize. It's OK to admit it, just follow up the admission that you don't believe it was worthy of impeachment - salvage a little dignity.
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I have no problem with Vindman running his concerns up his COC or testifying. My only problem with the man is him taking it upon himself to tell a foreign official to ignore his CIC.

I simply disagree with Kelley’s assessment of an “illegal order”.
 
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#971
volfanhill said:
I never bought into the Facebook thing until I started seeing how much complete horse **** gets posted as truth on here. Memes touted as factual that are easily debunked if you do 3 minutes of research. Confirmation bias is alive and well here. How many times have you seen the photo of McCain supposedly with ISIS leadership? Two minutes of research and it’s bs. Or the one of Obama in his college years with a foreigner in it. Many claim it’s a Saudi Prince. No proof. Then they extrapolate that to claim that this Prince paid for Obama to go to Harvard. Which is laughable bc the vast majority of students at Harvard don’t pay tuition. I could go on and on.
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That's the world we live in. We are inundated with facts about all kinds of things. Half of product marketing is apparently a thinly veiled lie ... misleading or with the intent to make the consumer think something is better than it is ... look no further than cell phone service marketing and throttling. Candy is put on lower shelves and brightly colored to attract kids ... we know it's not good for them. Political ads are generally dishonest themselves; how many don't use half truths to point out that an opponent voted against veterans or the homeless or whoever but neglect to state that it was bad legislation with a bunch of poison pills attached to it. The old adage has always been believe nothing you hear and half of what you see (even if you watch it happen in real time). We can't believe the news, so why would you expect a stranger posting to be a better source of accuracy and truth?
 
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AM64 said:
That's the world we live in. We are inundated with facts about all kinds of things. Half of product marketing is apparently a thinly veiled lie ... misleading or with the intent to make the consumer think something is better than it is ... look no further than cell phone service marketing and throttling. Candy is put on lower shelves and brightly colored to attract kids ... we know it's not good for them. Political ads are generally dishonest themselves; how many don't use half truths to point out that an opponent voted against veterans or the homeless or whoever but neglect to state that it was bad legislation with a bunch of poison pills attached to it. The old adage has always been believe nothing you hear and half of what you see (even if you watch it happen in real time). We can't believe the news, so why would you expect a stranger posting to be a better source of accuracy and truth?
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I would expect for them to not fall for obvious bs like the examples I mentioned.
 
#973
#973
AM64 said:
That's the world we live in. We are inundated with facts about all kinds of things. Half of product marketing is apparently a thinly veiled lie ... misleading or with the intent to make the consumer think something is better than it is ... look no further than cell phone service marketing and throttling. Candy is put on lower shelves and brightly colored to attract kids ... we know it's not good for them. Political ads are generally dishonest themselves; how many don't use half truths to point out that an opponent voted against veterans or the homeless or whoever but neglect to state that it was bad legislation with a bunch of poison pills attached to it. The old adage has always been believe nothing you hear and half of what you see (even if you watch it happen in real time). We can't believe the news, so why would you expect a stranger posting to be a better source of accuracy and truth?
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I was thinking about that a bit ago. Anyone else in America is subject to being terminated for lying during their application process, but we just let it slide and take it from our elected officials.

It's baffling. How about legislation that, if it's shown that you knowingly lied during a campaign, you are immediately ****-canned and fined on the way out the door?
 
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