Trump sues big tech

[hUTch2002]

I think this may well be what happens. Eugene Volokh is pretty well respected and it’s a good article, but I also think that it misses some distinctions, misstates the issue with social media platforms, and is bad policy. Maybe because it’s a portion of a law review article he wrote.

For example, the shopping mall in Pruneyard wasn’t requiring that shoppers agree to specific terms of service before entering. That distinction raises a question of whether social media is truly “open to the public at large” in the same sense of a shopping mall. By publishing the terms of service in advance a social media company not only makes users aware of who/what messages or activities are welcome, they also set user expectations for what users are going to be exposed to on the platform.

The issue is absolutely not that social media companies are refusing to host particular viewpoints, that’s ludicrous. There are conservatives all over Facebook and the fact that they’re less prevalent on Twitter has not been because they’ve been banned. The actual issue is asymmetrical application of those terms of service.

So if what what he’s advocating is to address application of published terms of service then what you’re really talking about is who has the ability to define what is obscene (something that the government is historically awful at.) Taking that power away from those companies has the potential to render the TOS completely unenforceable. At that point, you may end up with some guy in a Sonic the Hedgehog costume helicoptering his 10” dong on your little girl’s Twitter feed. OR alternatively, you leave the definition of obscenity up to the platforms and you’ve essentially changed nothing.

That’s an AWFULLY specific and quite descriptive scenario. I’m sure you see some interesting and disturbing things in your line of work. Hopefully that wasn’t one of them. I’d hate to see Sonic desecrated like that.

 

[Vol Main]

I know, they should be objective just like MSNBC

Yeah, that article should be objective, like you! lol

 

[hUTch2002]

Yeah, that article should be objective, like you! lol

Hey pot.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Yeah, that article should be objective, like you! lol

I never claim to be objective dude. I own my bias, unlike many. Try again

 

[RockyTop85]

That’s an AWFULLY specific and quite descriptive scenario. I’m sure you see some interesting and disturbing things in your line of work. Hopefully that wasn’t one of them. I’d hate to see Sonic desecrated like that.

The new social media site run by some Trump flunky was apparently being inundated with people posting sonic the hedgehog porn.

 

[RockyTop85]

You can't argue that. If that story is left up, it reasonable to say it would have generated even more traffic and it also wasn't for just 11 days as they never restored the tweet and the bombshell effect was over. It's verifiable that the initial time period of a story is pivotal.


Neither is the current model. Something has to give. They can't arbitrarily do what they do AND avoid liability.

Yes I can. No it’s not. The damages you’re describing are speculative. American courts don’t allow recovery for speculative damages.

 

[Grand Vol]

Yes I can. No it’s not. The damages you’re describing are speculative. American courts don’t allow recovery for speculative damages.

So...

Are AOC's claims of PTSD and "about to be murdered" during the Capitol situation considered speculative?

Asking for a friend...

 

[USAFgolferVol]

The plan is to gift again, because financially, it's been an ultra successful venture. Millions of dumbasses are going to donate again. The Apprentice venture, run to Presidency and time in office as POTUS, has proven to be a cash cow for him. It's unlike any other period of his life. While there are lingering debts out there he has refused to pay back, his cash flow the last 5-6 years will absorb the judgements against him with ease

 

[hUTch2002]

The new social media site run by some Trump flunky was apparently being inundated with people posting sonic the hedgehog porn.

Ah. I guess it’s tied to the Little Donny Foundation. Most on here likely won’t understand that reference but the first time I saw that skit I died laughing.

Edit: Ironic name too given your reply. Don Jr maybe?

 

[RockyTop85]

So...

Are AOC's claims of PTSD and "about to be murdered" during the Capitol situation considered speculative?

Asking for a friend...

Legally? No.

If she got treatment for PTSD, she actually paid a doctor to treat her, and the condition could be shown to be have been caused by the actions of the person she’s suing, those expenses are actual damages (is she even filing suit against somebody?). Whether a jury would compensate her for them is up to them, but it could at least go to the jury.

If she were saying her future earnings were harmed because voters don’t want a mentally unstable representative and she sued for the future loss of her congressional salary, that would be speculative. But that’s pretty much what we’re talking about, here.

 

[RockyTop85]

Common Carrier Status as Quid Pro Quo for § 230(c)(1) Immunity

@volinbham

I should have just read his law review article. This is a pretty balanced and stereotypical lawyer conclusion (“what’s the answer? It’s complicated.”). But it’s at least nice that he gives a hat tip to the merits of the current system after I felt he misstated some things in the last article.

Even a limited liability scheme for defamatory content, like he discusses here, hands out the heckler’s veto like candy at Halloween and would be a net negative, IMO.

 

[BreatheUT]

The great Mark Levin just ran clips of Psaki admitting the government is working in coordination with social media. He believes this makes Trump's case stronger. I'm listening to his radio show. Wtn 99.7 nashville internet.

 

[n_huffhines]

 

[n_huffhines]

The controversy seems to be that Kathy Griffin et. al. make statements that appear to glorify violence and they’re still posting, but some conservatives have been banned for making supposedly equivalent comments.

People freaked out about KF. Let's see if conservatives will hold R politicians to a higher standard than hollywood dipshits.

 

[RockyTop85]

People freaked out about KF. Let's see if conservatives will hold R politicians to a higher standard than hollywood dipshits.

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Did Twitter ban Gosar?

 

[n_huffhines]

Did Twitter ban Gosar?

not that I know of