Trump Supporters Gathering in D.C. - Mayor Readies for Those ‘Seeking Confrontation’

[1972 Grad]

Yep. Hawley, Cruz and everyone else who contributed to the insurrection should absolutely be removed from office.

Send them to the gas chamber? You good with that?

 

[utvolpj]

Just calling it like I see it. Careful with the language, you don't want to have to mod yourself. No reason to get so touchy.

If that's how you see it then you're illiterate since all my posts say the exact opposite.

Don't worry, I understand board rules.

 

[Rickyvol77]

There's video of police opening the barricades. I don't understand why they would do that.

they were likely ordered to because they were vastly outnumbered and couldn't hold them there anyways.
I read an article that said most of the Capitol Security were basically complacent people with no training who usually just buzzes people in and wands them... They didnt have the training or resources to do anything

 

[McDad]

they were likely ordered to because they were vastly outnumbered and couldn't hold them there anyways.
I read an article that said most of the Capitol Security were basically complacent people with no training who usually just buzzes people in and wands them... They didnt have the training or resources to do anything

I was curious if they told by superiors or made the decision on their own. I don't know if those details have been reported, yet.
Are we now using the term "capital security" with a purpose to make them less capable or is it simply a synonym for capital police?

 

[MontyPython]

Twice, maybe 3 times, you have refuted points I haven't made. I have not asserted a deep, fake video. If you want to attack those windmills, that's your call but it isn't advancing the discussion I want to have.

Reasonable people would have to concede a known march or protest at a known location by a known group should necessitate preparation. At a minimum, physical impediments and increased manpower.

For an officer who is 'threatened with bodily harm...outnumbered...and preserving themselves', waving the group through is odd. It isn't proof of collusion or conspiracy. It is unexpected, though.

I agree with everything you've said. It doesn't make sense. Another possibility is the most obvious: The police in question like Trump and supported the rioters. Simple. Makes sense.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Intelligence has to tell you that ignoring an officer and advancing toward an area full of Congessmen and Senators makes your intentions irrelevant whether they’re noble or bad. Nobody cares at that point.

exactly, people are shot at the WHite House every year for this kind of crap

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

So, as it stands now, the Republican party is clearly split into 2 factions:

One, traditional GOP members like Pence, McConnell, Graham, and most of the 'old school' guys.

Two, radical right members like Trump, Cruz, Hawley and most of the "conspiracy" guys.

How will this reconcile over time?

Of interest, even Pence recognized the magnitude of the Trump's insurrection, and the fact that, YES, words still matter as does truth...

"...After the Capitol was secured and lawmakers finished counting the votes, a stoic Pence announced his and Trump’s election defeat at 3:41 a.m.

Pence bowed his head and closed his eyes as the Senate chaplain, in a closing prayer, said the “quagmire of dysfunction that threatened our democracy” and led to a loss of lives and desecration of the Capitol has “reminded us that words matter.”

The C-SPAN camera recording the moment for history turned toward Pence, capturing a slight nod of his head, when the chaplain said God has “strengthened our resolve to protect and defend the Constitution.”

“Amen,” the devoutly Christian Pence softly said at the conclusion of the prayer."

hopefully the GOP will cleanse themselves of the conspiracy theorists among them. That is the only way that they survive. They will never win another national election if they don't. Most sane people don't want to be attached to that. A thing that will help is if FB, Youtube, and these other social media giants purge the conspiracy members. They know that it isn't true, but money overrules all.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Trump planned it.

 

[MontyPython]

Send them to the gas chamber? You good with that?

Heh. No violence necessary... I know that's the radical right fall-back. Just removal from office.

 

[MontyPython]

hopefully the GOP will cleanse themselves of the conspiracy theorists among them. That is the only way that they survive. They will never win another national election if they don't. Most sane people don't want to be attached to that. A thing that will help is if FB, Youtube, and these other social media giants purge the conspiracy members. They know that it isn't true, but money overrules all.

I agree in theory, but in practice these guys are so terrified of the Trump base, that they seemingly do it out of self-preservation. Trump is, in fact, causing the rupture of the GOP, and he knows it. He could give a rat's ass.

 

[1972 Grad]

Heh. No violence necessary... I know that's the radical right fall-back. Just removal from office.

The old cancel culture, huh? Shut them up, if they have a different view of things.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Good grief

Following Trump to your demise isn't even in the same universe.

Did she follow Trump to Afghanistan for multiple tours, or did something else motivate her to serve her nation?

And while, for the record, I do not agree with her choice of action… I also do not believe that what she did rose to the level where deadly force was necessary.

Can’t wait to see how the new AG explains this one.

 

[ETV]

hopefully the GOP will cleanse themselves of the conspiracy theorists among them. That is the only way that they survive. They will never win another national election if they don't. Most sane people don't want to be attached to that. A thing that will help is if FB, Youtube, and these other social media giants purge the conspiracy members. They know that it isn't true, but money overrules all.

Yes. Mass censorship on a national level against anyone that disagrees with your ideas must be silenced. SMH.

So much for unity.

 

[OHvol40]

Heh. No violence necessary... I know that's the radical right fall-back. Just removal from office.

I say censure them, strip them of all committee assignments, and force them to live out their public service lives in the spotlight of their office but stripped of influence.

 

[Orange Maniac]

They are only very slightly better than the Democrats. There is only one party, the establishment, the man.

Sadly, that is truer than most believe.

 

[McDad]

I agree with everything you've said. It doesn't make sense. Another possibility is the most obvious: The police in question like Trump and supported the rioters. Simple. Makes sense.

Some others made that guess as well.

What I find most intriguing is there were apparently police officers protesting who showed their credentials. If they happened to be at the barricades, then I could see the capital hill police letting their guard down and waving them in (they would not expect other officers to be a problem). However if that is the case, then the narrative of threatened, outnumbered, and self protecting, really doesn't hold much validity.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Average BLM protest - 98.7% had good and appropriate intentions
Jan 6th protest - 91.1% had good and appropriate intentions

you just throw crap out there and expect it to stick don't you? it couldn't just be that BOTH crowds had a large amount of people protesting normally, mixed with excitable and loud people who were doing some things they shouldnt, some who were just there to record and see what happens, and some felons/criminals/anarchists types who want to assault, steal, vandalize, whatever

 

[McDad]

hopefully the GOP will cleanse themselves of the conspiracy theorists among them. That is the only way that they survive. They will never win another national election if they don't. Most sane people don't want to be attached to that. A thing that will help is if FB, Youtube, and these other social media giants purge the conspiracy members. They know that it isn't true, but money overrules all.

What would you estimate is the percentage of radical conspiracy theorists who vote R on election day?

 

[MontyPython]

The old cancel culture, huh? Shut them up, if they have a different view of things.

No. It's the old "you foment sedition" rule, eh.

Everyone who supported the "root causes" of Trump's insurrection [READ: "The election was stolen from you"] are insurrectionists. Pretty simple math.

You commit the crime, you do the time. Or in this case, impeachment.

 

[MontyPython]

I say censure them, strip them of all committee assignments, and force them to live out their public service lives in the spotlight of their office but stripped of influence.

Ouch. The public neutering option.

 

[Grand Vol]

LMFAO.

In reference to these nuclear codes being discussed, weren't some posters worried about our international standing the other day?

I mean, talking about such things openly is far more damaging to national security than just shutting up about it.

 

[GreyWolf1129]

exactly, people are shot at the WHite House every year for this kind of crap

This point completely ignores the fact that a stack of uniformed and non-uniformed capital police officers advanced through that same crowd without being attacked, right before the fatal shot was fired.

Apparently, they didn’t feel very threatened.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Yep. Hawley, Cruz and everyone else who contributed to the insurrection should absolutely be removed from office.

That is fine. Are you going to remove Harris and other Dena who were fanning the flames this summer.

@Bassmaster_Vol provided multiple videos throughout this thread and others.

 

[hog88]

Interesting point. Effectively locking out the launch codes means there is no nuclear deterrent and those code controlled weapons are useless.

Yes and that there is no Command structure for the next 2 weeks. Should we be attacked it would be illegal for anyone else to authorize military action.

And the liberals think Trump is the danger to our democracy.

 

[Rickyvol77]

After this year, I've really tried m best to put myself in the LEO's shoes because, to varying extents, I've realized not every black man killed by police was blatant injustice and that it was more often than not a pawn for a narrative.

That said, when you're losing ground, and outnumbered by a mob who doesn't seem to have a limit on their encroachment, you have to wonder what in the **** is going through the officer's head. pointing the guns at them wasn't working. Barricades weren't working. Shouting warnings wasn't working.

I still tend to believe that this area was considered "off-limits" to ANY protestors/rioters because they were defending the last hallway that Congresspersons were in. Thus anyone coming thru that window was going to be shot. OR the guy legit was in fear of his life not knowing what the woman had on her person which is also a valid shooting OR he could've just panicked and shot her, but either way it's not a "bad shoot" necessarily